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Lost my appetite at Khatib BLK 848 coffeeshop

Tree,

you brought up a very valid social concern.

But what's the point of posting this story in this forum, that is unless, you just want a ready outlet to vent your frustrations.

If you really wanna see a change, perhaps the last thing you should do is to post in this forum.

GMS, if you are reading this, get out of this forum too. Don't waste your mental energy here rebutting petty comments.

Just my honest opinion. :)

With due respect I think GMS should continue posting here! Not all comments are petty. Some are food for thought and may even inspire GMS to victory in the coming elections. Just my humble opinion.:D
 
Vivian Balakrishnan : If I know YOG would cost S$390m, would I bid for it. Definitely yes.

Vivian Balakrishnan : Help the poor? Hawker, foodcourt or restaurant? If we help them, they become lazy.

question: "if you initially budgeted to buy a house for $1M, and ended up having to pay $3M, would you be happy about your purchase?"

ministar: "if it's my $, i won't be happy. if it's not from my pocket, i don't think i'll give a damn"
 
Rental being the major cost doesn't mean you have to pay $1,200 to a cleaner. You want to maximize profit and reduce all costs.
The owner wants to pay the least possible amount for any labor. He is not running a charity. This has got nothing to do with the amount of rent he pays.

you are right, no business is a charity. but companies in singapore are by far greedier than companies in the rest of the world. in Sg, labour (wages) as a % of national income (GDP), has the lowest share in Asia. behind indonesia, vietnam, pinoy, mat land, thailand.

there is only 1 moral of the story here: DON'T BE A WAGE SLAVE IN SINGAPORE. start a business, hire workers and exploit cheap labour.

4 legs good, 2 legs bad.....

"Finally, high corporate savings are a major contributor to high aggregate national savings. In Asia these result from a number of structural features of the corporate sector. Large low-income China and small high-income Singapore represent the two extreme cases, with the lowest shares of labour (wages) in national income, and consumption ratios at or below only 40 per cent of GDP (versus the Asian average of 55 per cent). Moreover, in each case these shares have steadily declined over the past two decades. Malaysia ranks a close third.

Both China and Singapore are correspondingly characterized by high and rising shares in GDP of state-owned enterprises or government-linked corporations, and of multinational corporations—none of which have built-in incentives to distribute corporate income where it is produced, preferring reinvestment for growth. Multinationals are often beneficiaries of host country tax breaks or other investment incentives that reduce local income distribution, and are obligated to remit income overseas to their predominantly home-country shareholders. "
- linda YC lim; http://www.voxeu.org/reports/global_imbalances.pdf
 
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Happened to be there this evening and bought a plate of fried beehoon (it was quite good).

Lost my appetite when I saw an old lady (she must be at least 75) clearing plates.

I asked her is the job not too tough for her?

She answered that her back hurts but can still manage.

I think it is inconscionable that a country subjects a 75 plus old woman to clear plates so that she can survive. Don't give me the crap about her children are supposed to feed her, etc.

What has Singapore degenerated into?


You have many of such cases but someone is willing to throw S$390 million and more if disclosed honestly into the drain, for a half month show which nobody wants to watch!
:D
 
PAP-style fascism is the most horrific as it is actualized behind a mask.

The masking is indeed hideous as the people do not now that behind all the charade is an entire state mechanism held by a single political party willing to do almost anything to stay in power. A fascist political party will be willing to run the country to the ground in order to stay in power.

Their policies will be used against the people.

Typical Fascist Programmes
state corporatism
single party rule
control and use of the media by the state
encouragement of iconic leaders
rule by an elite minority
rampant use of military personnel in government systems
use of police and judiciary to stranggle opposition
tripartism of union, businesses and government
use of education to ingrain party political views
disdain for the populace that cannot provide to society, such as the elderly
 
Those that mistakenly call the PAP a communist-like political party have got it dead wrong and there is a big chance that this misrepresentation is actually created by the PAPies themselves. Because many people only see communist states as a one-party state.

The PAPies would rather be seen as communists rather than fascists. As fascists, their typical programmes will be seen for what it is worth which is a diabolical set of schemes that are pro-elite and massively against the large majority of the population.
 
i'm glad you created this thread. Sometimes we are all guilty of indifference to the down and out in this "begger-free" country.

A few weeks ago I was in a cab on the way to a client's. At the junction of maxwell market, a spastic (using this word in its truest sense) woman was hobbling across the pedestrian crossing. it was disturbing to see her rush for the lights, unaccompanied. When she made it to the other side, she sat down on the pavement exhausted. Imagine such a sight. In our multi billion dollar CBD. Thousands of people must this handicapped woman everyday. Yet she is left to fend for herself.

I blocked that episode out of my mind and proceeded with my day. I am not proud to admit that I am getting desensitized to all the less fortunate around me.
 
Fascists will not help the elderly or the handicapped. As long as you cannot contribute to the economy you are a persona non grata to them, an unwelcomed disturbance.

TO those that think that the PAPies can change from within once LKY goes, then you are truly wrong. As minister after minister has toed the PAP party line and the PAP is a fascist party. The only way to remove fascist ideologies from Singapore is to remove the PAP totally from power and then to ban fascist political parties from Singapore.
 
I blocked that episode out of my mind and proceeded with my day. I am not proud to admit that I am getting desensitized to all the less fortunate around me.

Sad to say, this is exactly what will benefit PAP the most in their quest for one party rule. I don't blame you at all.
 
Fascists will not help the elderly or the handicapped. As long as you cannot contribute to the economy you are a persona non grata to them, an unwelcomed disturbance.

This is something to mess with your mind on a Tuesday morning. George Bernard Shaw, famous Socialist and one of the founders of the Fabian Society famously said this:

"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself."
 
Sad to say, this is exactly what will benefit PAP the most in their quest for one party rule. I don't blame you at all.

The desensitisation was definitely progressive. I recall 15 years ago, homeless old folks picking up cans would be in the news. When did we become like this?
 
The desensitisation was definitely progressive. I recall 15 years ago, homeless old folks picking up cans would be in the news. When did we become like this?

It's the norm nowadays. If I walk around the neighborhood for two days and don't see old folks picking up cans and cardboards, then I worry for the recycling industry. That's what LKY meant by no retirement.
 
Is that not to ensure that she will get a shot at being a two term MP so that her pension is assured? Showing face and turning up for community (i.e. RC dogs organized) events is all well and good but it does not really say much about the person.

What pension? Low Thia Khiang's class is the last batch to be entitled to a pension.
 
What pension? Low Thia Khiang's class is the last batch to be entitled to a pension.

Hi cass888, i can understand in your countless defeats and embarassment in the infraction war against the OA.
I will release you if you promise to behave. :D

 
That's cos another older man aged ard 87 has told all Singaporeans not to retire or else they will shrivel up and die. I believe he is in the fortune telling business, has a son who's somebody very big in the govt, and a daughter-in-law in charge of lots and lots of money which she uses to gamble in the world markets. Btw, the old man doesnt need to work as he has billions but still wants to work otherwise he'll be bored stiff. Besides telling fortunes, he also acts something like a jaga but on a national level. And of cos, paid very handsomely.

You shld eat like him --emperor's dish, abalone, sharksfin, bird's nest etc. everyday. Not fried beehoon --that stuff can kill you. Ask him whether he has lost his appetite..

If he can work at 87, why can't she at 75?

Happened to be there this evening and bought a plate of fried beehoon (it was quite good).

Lost my appetite when I saw an old lady (she must be at least 75) clearing plates.

I asked her is the job not too tough for her?

She answered that her back hurts but can still manage.

I think it is inconscionable that a country subjects a 75 plus old woman to clear plates so that she can survive. Don't give me the crap about her children are supposed to feed her, etc.

What has Singapore degenerated into?
 
There is another old man, but not so old, one jiak liao bee Minister for Old affairs in the PMO. What the fucks is he doing? Another wastrel collecting millions and sitting on his arse.
 
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