LKY say blaming current low fertility on Stop At 2 is absurd!!

[enterprise2]

What's so absurd about it? The Stop at 2 policy stopped in the early 80s, those born then will be 30s + by now. Imagine if no Stop at 2 policy, how many more people in their 30s we will have now. Also the Stop at 2 policy is an incentive scheme for women to medically tie their tubes to prevent further pregnancies. A whole generation of women were made medically infertile as a result of the policy and u got to wait for the next gen of child bearing women to start the 'production' process going again. LKY has done enormous damage in this policy error and he's again denying responsibility!!

 

[bryanlim1972]

What's so absurd about it? The Stop at 2 policy stopped in the early 80s, those born then will be 30s + by now. Imagine if no Stop at 2 policy, how many more people in their 30s we will have now. Also the Stop at 2 policy is an incentive scheme for women to medically tie their tubes to prevent further pregnancies. A whole generation of women were made medically infertile as a result of the policy and u got to wait for the next gen of child bearing women to start the 'production' process going again. LKY has done enormous damage in this policy error and he's again denying responsibility!!

sorry where did he make this denial? in his new book?

 

[eatshitndie]

the stop at 2 policy was grossly misconstrued by sinkies as "stop in 2 seconds" during sex. so fearful yet obedient to old harry's policy, all sinkie men came in 2 seconds..... before any dick penetrated the cheebye! that was how the sg population plummeted. :p

 

[Leongsam]

What's so absurd about it? The Stop at 2 policy stopped in the early 80s, those born then will be 30s + by now. Imagine if no Stop at 2 policy, how many more people in their 30s we will have now. Also the Stop at 2 policy is an incentive scheme for women to medically tie their tubes to prevent further pregnancies. A whole generation of women were made medically infertile as a result of the policy and u got to wait for the next gen of child bearing women to start the 'production' process going again. LKY has done enormous damage in this policy error and he's again denying responsibility!!

The stop at two policy was always aimed at moron mothers and mothers of a particular colour who were producing fucktards like these....

There was never any reason for capable chinks to stop at two.

 

[Lordshiva]

Eugenic nazism failed....... Too bad


Lets move on.....

 

[yinyang]

...grossly misconstrued by sinkies as "stop in 2 seconds" during sex. so fearful yet obedient to old harry's policy, all sinkie men came in 2 seconds..... before any dick penetrated the cheebye! that was how the sg population plummeted.

Aka "gone in 2". For the pastry wannabes, cream pie:p

 

[enterprise2]

The stop at two policy was always aimed at moron mothers and mothers of a particular colour who were producing fucktards like these....

There was never any reason for capable chinks to stop at two.

I think u gone too far in your racially abusive rant!! And u r 100% supportive of the new media guidelines that seeks to persecute racially abusive online postings. I hope they throw the book at u!!

 

[kopiuncle]

we really cannot blame anyone.
it was a move to prevent " over-population" because we were not sure how our economy was going.
we had our KK babies producing factory then - world record - and we were afraid at the rate we were going,
we would collapse economically and socially. so it was economically motivated,perhaps to have enough to feed a growing and hungry population....but a miracle happened!!!

it is always 20/20 on hindsight....but again, as a country developed and prospered, less married couples wanted children. look around you in the developed countries in Europe and the Scandinavian countries, the birth rate is dismal and decreasing. THERE WAS NO STOP AT TWO POLICY. Yet, these first would countries with vast resources and riches are underpopulated and the people are not reproducing!! There is a crying need to import foreigners and even the dire need to get foreign spouses. Even that, these countries are still under populated.

Yes, it is NOT the STOP AT TWO policy that is responsible for our under performance. A host of other factors came into play . That is why we need Foreign Talents and New Citizens to boost our gene pool, our talent pool and increase our population. I think this is a wise move and should be grateful to our very enlightened and capable government.

Happy National Day!! Majulah Singapura!!!

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Old Man is right. Stop at 2 is a distant memory for the younger generation of 20s - 30s.

What the govt needs to do is arrest the high cost of living, introduce affordable childcare services and revamp the current education system which is suffocating to say the least.

 

[da dick]

The stop at two policy was always aimed at moron mothers and mothers of a particular colour who were producing fucktards like these....

There was never any reason for capable chinks to stop at two.

ya but ... if no stop at 2, there'll even more pissed off unemployed mats and bengs voting out the pappies. ah lee should give himself a slap on the back instead of insulting himself. so bad ah.

 

[enterprise2]

we really cannot blame anyone.
it was a move to prevent " over-population" because we were not sure how our economy was going.
we had our KK babies producing factory then - world record - and we were afraid at the rate we were going,
we would collapse economically and socially. so it was economically motivated,perhaps to have enough to feed a growing and hungry population....but a miracle happened!!!

it is always 20/20 on hindsight....but again, as a country developed and prospered, less married couples wanted children. look around you in the developed countries in Europe and the Scandinavian countries, the birth rate is dismal and decreasing. THERE WAS NO STOP AT TWO POLICY. Yet, these first would countries with vast resources and riches are underpopulated and the people are not reproducing!! There is a crying need to import foreigners and even the dire need to get foreign spouses. Even that, these countries are still under populated.

Yes, it is NOT the STOP AT TWO policy that is responsible for our under performance. A host of other factors came into play . That is why we need Foreign Talents and New Citizens to boost our gene pool, our talent pool and increase our population. I think this is a wise move and should be grateful to our very enlightened and capable government.

Happy National Day!! Majulah Singapura!!!

Aiyah!! Please do not confuse benefit of hindsight to having NO FORESIGHT!!! Our gahment did not foresee the long term impact of the pop policy. Same with this FT policy....we are going to suffer for decades as a result of this.

 

[kopiuncle]

Aiyah!! Please do not confuse benefit of hindsight to having NO FORESIGHT!!! Our gahment did not foresee the long term impact of the pop policy. Same with this FT policy....we are going to suffer for decades as a result of this.

you may be right. not many governments in the world have that wisdom and foresight. it is always easy for people to say on hindsight that you have no foresight...still 20/20 on hindsight.

the situation was bad then. the economy was stagnant. the teeming millions were to be housed and fed...but there was a twist and we did well, more than we expected.....and suddenly, we found ourselves in a dilemma. yes, no foresight...but hindsight is always the wiser ...cheers!

 

[enterprise2]

you may be right. not many governments in the world have that wisdom and foresight. it is always easy for people to say on hindsight that you have no foresight...still 20/20 on hindsight.

the situation was bad then. the economy was stagnant. the teeming millions were to be housed and fed...but there was a twist and we did well, more than we expected.....and suddenly, we found ourselves in a dilemma. yes, no foresight...but hindsight is always the wiser ...cheers!

What do u think of gahment who treat the population like sheep?? When u think we are 'over-producing' u want the people to go for ligation procedures to sterilise themselves. When under-producing, u open the flood-gates for FTs to come in.

 

[escher]

What's so absurd about it? The Stop at 2 policy stopped in the early 80s, those born then will be 30s + by now. Imagine if no Stop at 2 policy, how many more people in their 30s we will have now. Also the Stop at 2 policy is an incentive scheme for women to medically tie their tubes to prevent further pregnancies. A whole generation of women were made medically infertile as a result of the policy and u got to wait for the next gen of child bearing women to start the 'production' process going again. LKY has done enormous damage in this policy error and he's again denying responsibility!!

LKY is a fucking arsehole.
He would have contributed much more to Singapore if he stuck his head in a metal bucket toilet that Leongsam used and spend his entire life with his fucking head in that metal bucket toilet

 

[SgParent]

we really cannot blame anyone.
it was a move to prevent " over-population" because we were not sure how our economy was going.
we had our KK babies producing factory then - world record - and we were afraid at the rate we were going,
we would collapse economically and socially. so it was economically motivated,perhaps to have enough to feed a growing and hungry population....but a miracle happened!!!

it is always 20/20 on hindsight....

even if the initial intention was not wrong and with hindsight it is now proven wrong, still no need to apologize for it?

 

[kopiuncle]

What do u think of gahment who treat the population like sheep?? When u think we are 'over-producing' u want the people to go for ligation procedures to sterilise themselves. When under-producing, u open the flood-gates for FTs to come in.

like i've repeatedly said , hindsight is always 20/20...things changed with time and with circumstances. as government and leaders, you have to change with time...no use harping on the past and get yourself imprisoned...move on with new plans, new ideas and new agenda....

 

[GoldenDragon]

Any learned bros here can point out when the Old Man ever admitted to errors in his policies? I don't recall any. He is Mr Perfect not the idiot from WWF.

 

[kopiuncle]

even if the initial intention was not wrong and with hindsight it is now proven wrong, still no need to apologize for it?

what will apology achieve? concrete plans and changes will have to be imposed to correct the mis-calculation which was no fault of anybody....hindsight is always 20/20

without the stop at two, many of you might not even be here today kpkb about the policy....

 

[enterprise2]

even if the initial intention was not wrong and with hindsight it is now proven wrong, still no need to apologize for it?

Yeah, rite!! The cost of the error is not small. According to LKY himself, it is now threatening the survival of the country itself!!! But no heads rolled for this, all those that implemented this got good bonuses, promotions and maybe happily retired somewhere!!!

 

[SgParent]

you may be right. not many governments in the world have that wisdom and foresight

i thought when they were pitching for their multimillion $$ part time salary they said they are absolutely nothing like the "not many governments in the world have the wisdom and foresight"?

the situation was bad then. the economy was stagnant. the teeming millions were to be housed and fed...but there was a twist and we did well, more than we expected.....and suddenly, we found ourselves in a dilemma. yes, no foresight...but hindsight is always the wiser ...cheers!

still the same opinion. now facts are saying they were dead wrong then, so apology is the very minimal thing expected from them.