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LKY: I had Prataman in place to jaga the reserves !

kojakbt

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->AT YESTERDAY'S dialogue, writer Catherine Lim posed MM Lee this question: 'Sir, in the event of a serious threat of a freak election, would you do the unthinkable, that is, send in the army?' This is an edited extract from Mr Lee's reply:
'You look at our record and the moves we've made. Let me put it simply like this. First, we maintain a system which gives any opposition the opportunity to displace us peacefully. We allow the system: we've not interfered with the civil service, the judiciary, parliamentary procedures, the police and so on.

If you can win an election, so be it. If at some point we are not able to find a team which can equal an opposition team, on that day we deserve to be out. If we become corrupt, inefficient, can't deliver, we're out.

What if we have a freak election, as we may well have? Many voters say openly: 'In my family, three of us voted for you but two voted against, just to let you know that we want an opposition voice.' In that situation, you may have a freak result. That worries me.

So we've set in place a President with blocking powers. Any opposition that comes in will find that he cannot touch the reserves, otherwise you can promise the sky and spend the money. And all our hard-earned savings will go in five years.

Second, you cannot change the top officials without the President's consent. Any raiding of the funds must be approved by the President who has a council of presidential advisers to advise him yes or no.

Now, why should we do all these if we expect to overturn an election?

We expect that if we are voted out, to stay out, and hope that within one term, that new government, incompetent and unable to deliver, will be out. And there's enough core competencies and the funds to enable a fresh PAP government to revive the system.

I spent 15 years thinking about these safeguards and finally persuaded my younger colleagues that we needed these because they can't guarantee that each time they will produce a better team than the opposition just because you've done so in the past.

I don't see any problem in the next election, and probably the election after that. But if we don't get a good team in the election after that and the opposition does get a good team together, we're at risk.

One of the first lessons I learnt in politicswas from Harold Laski. He said if you don't have a system that allows fundamental change by consent, you will have a revolution by violence. If we block all possibilities, we must expect violence. In that violence, eventually the army won't shoot because you are in the wrong. That's what happens in Africa, the army goes in and holds up the president and often shoots him.

If we had not these thoughts at the back of our minds, why do we do these things? Just to bluff the people? Doesn't make sense. An army commander, air force or police, has to be approved by a committee and the President must agree. Why? Because we will appoint the commanders? No, because a stupid government will do the wrong things and when we return, we may find the whole machinery has collapsed, as often is the case. Simple.

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kojakbt

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> So we've set in place a President with blocking powers. Any opposition that comes in will find that he cannot touch the reserves, otherwise you can promise the sky and spend the money. And all our hard-earned savings will go in five years.

And meanwhile, his daughter-in-law is squandering our reserves away by making high-stake Casino bets in the marketplace...
 

makapaaa

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In other words, the lau CB is saying that even if the Oppos kicks out his lan cheow PAPee traitors, he could remote control the purse string via his Prata dog!
 

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"Apa ini? How much roti we have left? No idea man. My master didn't say.
He needed the roti, so i gave him the key. We are all puppets to serve the master only."

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Maverick01

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where is our resident Prasident in Sammyboy? Looking forward to his posting here to clarify the matter...
 

Maverick01

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At least he is admiting openly what everyone had already known.




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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->AT YESTERDAY'S dialogue, writer Catherine Lim posed MM Lee this question: 'Sir, in the event of a serious threat of a freak election, would you do the unthinkable, that is, send in the army?' This is an edited extract from Mr Lee's reply:
'You look at our record and the moves we've made. Let me put it simply like this. First, we maintain a system which gives any opposition the opportunity to displace us peacefully. We allow the system: we've not interfered with the civil service, the judiciary, parliamentary procedures, the police and so on.

If you can win an election, so be it. If at some point we are not able to find a team which can equal an opposition team, on that day we deserve to be out. If we become corrupt, inefficient, can't deliver, we're out.

What if we have a freak election, as we may well have? Many voters say openly: 'In my family, three of us voted for you but two voted against, just to let you know that we want an opposition voice.' In that situation, you may have a freak result. That worries me.

So we've set in place a President with blocking powers. Any opposition that comes in will find that he cannot touch the reserves, otherwise you can promise the sky and spend the money. And all our hard-earned savings will go in five years.

Second, you cannot change the top officials without the President's consent. Any raiding of the funds must be approved by the President who has a council of presidential advisers to advise him yes or no.

Now, why should we do all these if we expect to overturn an election?

We expect that if we are voted out, to stay out, and hope that within one term, that new government, incompetent and unable to deliver, will be out. And there's enough core competencies and the funds to enable a fresh PAP government to revive the system.

I spent 15 years thinking about these safeguards and finally persuaded my younger colleagues that we needed these because they can't guarantee that each time they will produce a better team than the opposition just because you've done so in the past.

I don't see any problem in the next election, and probably the election after that. But if we don't get a good team in the election after that and the opposition does get a good team together, we're at risk.

One of the first lessons I learnt in politicswas from Harold Laski. He said if you don't have a system that allows fundamental change by consent, you will have a revolution by violence. If we block all possibilities, we must expect violence. In that violence, eventually the army won't shoot because you are in the wrong. That's what happens in Africa, the army goes in and holds up the president and often shoots him.

If we had not these thoughts at the back of our minds, why do we do these things? Just to bluff the people? Doesn't make sense. An army commander, air force or police, has to be approved by a committee and the President must agree. Why? Because we will appoint the commanders? No, because a stupid government will do the wrong things and when we return, we may find the whole machinery has collapsed, as often is the case. Simple.

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Hope

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->AT YESTERDAY'S dialogue, writer Catherine Lim posed MM Lee this question: 'Sir, in the event of a serious threat of a freak election, would you do the unthinkable, that is, send in the army?' This is an edited extract from Mr Lee's reply:
'You look at our record and the moves we've made. Let me put it simply like this. First, we maintain a system which gives any opposition the opportunity to displace us peacefully. We allow the system: we've not interfered with the civil service, the judiciary, parliamentary procedures, the police and so on.

If you can win an election, so be it. If at some point we are not able to find a team which can equal an opposition team, on that day we deserve to be out. If we become corrupt, inefficient, can't deliver, we're out.

What if we have a freak election, as we may well have? Many voters say openly: 'In my family, three of us voted for you but two voted against, just to let you know that we want an opposition voice.' In that situation, you may have a freak result. That worries me.

So we've set in place a President with blocking powers. Any opposition that comes in will find that he cannot touch the reserves, otherwise you can promise the sky and spend the money. And all our hard-earned savings will go in five years.

Second, you cannot change the top officials without the President's consent. Any raiding of the funds must be approved by the President who has a council of presidential advisers to advise him yes or no.

Now, why should we do all these if we expect to overturn an election?

We expect that if we are voted out, to stay out, and hope that within one term, that new government, incompetent and unable to deliver, will be out. And there's enough core competencies and the funds to enable a fresh PAP government to revive the system.

I spent 15 years thinking about these safeguards and finally persuaded my younger colleagues that we needed these because they can't guarantee that each time they will produce a better team than the opposition just because you've done so in the past.

I don't see any problem in the next election, and probably the election after that. But if we don't get a good team in the election after that and the opposition does get a good team together, we're at risk.

One of the first lessons I learnt in politicswas from Harold Laski. He said if you don't have a system that allows fundamental change by consent, you will have a revolution by violence. If we block all possibilities, we must expect violence. In that violence, eventually the army won't shoot because you are in the wrong. That's what happens in Africa, the army goes in and holds up the president and often shoots him.

If we had not these thoughts at the back of our minds, why do we do these things? Just to bluff the people? Doesn't make sense. An army commander, air force or police, has to be approved by a committee and the President must agree. Why? Because we will appoint the commanders? No, because a stupid government will do the wrong things and when we return, we may find the whole machinery has collapsed, as often is the case. Simple.

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MM Lee has made it clear that any oppositiojn government in Spore would not get any co-operation fr civil service,the whole administration,

But it is OK,can PAP beat KMT in its record of boycott,I am afraid not.

It is just return our little red dot back to normalcy,I am very sure that any opoposition government would last only one term and then PAP shall return

But it would be a different PAP,just look at the humble President Ma and the truly arrogant General Chiang KS
 

Hope

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<I spent 15 years thinking about these safeguards and finally persuaded my younger colleagues that we needed these because they can't guarantee that each time they will produce a better team than the opposition just because you've done so in the past.>


Rubbish,not so long ago,he was thinking of sending in the army,he has just changed his mind,pure and simple

Typical BS style of LKY,15 years to think?Lucky that he now senses the feeling of Sinkies,not so well towards him.
 

hairylee

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'Sir, would you send in the army?'

No! I will declare Marshall Law.


psst not David Marshall the lawyer.
 

Char_Azn

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The truth can be said the other way. If we elect an opposition President, then the PAP cannot do anything about the money. So in the end it still comes back to, if U dun like PAP, don't vote for them. You can talk and shout all you want but the simplest way of telling PAP U dun like them is to not vote for them. Instead of making a lot of noise here and in the end still end up voting for them, do what your brains tells U.
 

Maverick01

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was there a chance to vote for the president in the first place?? no contest..


The truth can be said the other way. If we elect an opposition President, then the PAP cannot do anything about the money. So in the end it still comes back to, if U dun like PAP, don't vote for them. You can talk and shout all you want but the simplest way of telling PAP U dun like them is to not vote for them. Instead of making a lot of noise here and in the end still end up voting for them, do what your brains tells U.
 

SR Nathan

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You see I'm worth every penny I'm paid?

My master, Ali the Baba expects me to single-handedly hold the fort whilst he run road.

What crap is he talking about coming back?

What I resent most is people calling me a 'frivolous motherfucker'.

I have an important job to do.........

But first, excuse me. I need some more of the prata I had just now....



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where is our resident Prasident in Sammyboy? Looking forward to his posting here to clarify the matter...
 

Maverick01

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Prasident Sir,
Great to see you in this thread to clarify the matter...Ok dosai time!!



You see I'm worth every penny I'm paid?

My master, Ali the Baba expects me to single-handedly hold the fort whilst he run road.

What crap is he talking about coming back?

What I resent most is people calling me a 'frivolous motherfucker'.

I have an important job to do.........

But first, excuse me. I need some more of the prata I had just now....



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Maverick01

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hahahahahaha...far fetch from being defeatist when there are no competition in the first place....its realist thinking based on past experience.......after the one and only proper presidential election that was so closely fought, have we seen any subssequently? majority of pple will know what I meant....dunno whats ur agenda though...one thing for sure...we all await a good presidential election in the future...



that's just defeatist thinking.
 

TeeKee

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MM Lee has made it clear that any oppositiojn government in Spore would not get any co-operation fr civil service,the whole administration,

simple lah, just change the people who are loyal to the Hakka Regime, many competent people are hungry for such jobs...filling up the state coffers should not be their top prority..

did you see Obama using the Bush team after He won the election? :biggrin:
 
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