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Good for you contra, i am just sharing my experiences. Good for you to see things for yourself. The units you saw should be the terraces and these are getting occupied, some are bought for rental purposes. Once you are in the Gateway though, you will see lots of houses inside that have people moving in or starting renovation. The Golf side is newer and has lesser people for now.
In today's news, Johor's police caught one guy from the gang involved in the slashing at Downtown East. Yes, there is a police station outside East Ledang and the security system of East Ledang is linked directly to the police headquarter of Nusajaya.
Thanks for the info man!
I agree to your 1st statement
No, Woodlands(near customs) rates is definitely not the best. Their offered rates on display are mostly the same but I was given RM1 more than the displayed rate when I asked for better rates with just SGD3k. Even adding RM1 to the displayed rate, they still can't beat the rates from The Arcade, Collyer Quay(2nd floor).
Best rate I ever got is in JB, Tun Aminah. No where else beats them. Of course there are risks... Display 238.5, I could get for as high as 239.7 and I only change S$100 
Probably next is Permas Jaya.
Probably next is Permas Jaya.Hi Tanya88,
Just for sharing, I have visited my sis's house quite a number of times in Setia Eco garden. it's nearer to second link than causeway. Price shall be lower than above properties mentioned. (my sis bought around RM300k for double storey terrace) . it's gated and guarded. I observe that there are 3 layers of guardhouse within the premises, need to scan passes in & out. Once time, forgot to bring pass along, and the guard disallowed our entrance. Luckily one of our neighbour happened to be around, and escorted us in all the way. Can check http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_eco_garden/
It's worth a visit even you have others better properties to consider.
FYI,don't be surprised by the number of Singaporean staying there.
Hi Dapbest,
You mean in Singapore side? You're really a regular and getting very good rates. One of the Woodlands money changer himself said that they can't match the rates from Arcade when I asked. It's common to see people changing tens of thousands SGD at Arcade because of their good rates, they bring backpack to carry the foreign currency.
Seems like some ang mos are moving over... can't run away from foreign talent can we? :-p
http://expatjohor.blogspot.com/
http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic51228-0-asc-60.html&sid=844af4979836aaa5e54e45cac48a14e2
The price differential between SG and JB is so great even ang mos are attracted to the idea of commuting to work from JB. Its quite common overseas for people to drive for an hour to work.
Lets hope the JB government be smart and fully exploit this.
http://expatjohor.blogspot.com/
http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic51228-0-asc-60.html&sid=844af4979836aaa5e54e45cac48a14e2
The price differential between SG and JB is so great even ang mos are attracted to the idea of commuting to work from JB. Its quite common overseas for people to drive for an hour to work.
Lets hope the JB government be smart and fully exploit this.
Thanks Wuqi,
For your feedback on the security situation.
I thought however that HH is more remote and isolated than EL and also, EL has more superior security feature like motion detection and CCTV every 50 m and near a police station.
For all these reasons, EL should be just as safe as HH if not safer but then I also heard of breakins from the highway into Ledang Heights.
Further, my brother has a unit there and it is quite a laughing stock for the security to have to ask for my brother tel contact no and then to borrow my handphone to call my brother to verify that he is expecting a guest before letting my family in as no way for then to acertain that I am indeed calling my brother!
In this sense then, think EL may have better security - believe that they have intercom connected where the home owners can be intercom from the security but please correct me if I am wrong as forgot to check whether they have such intercom as common in Spore condos.
Anyway, saw also a Today's ad of a Suntec East Ledang exhibtion this Sat and Sun in Level 2, Room 207 from 12 to 6 pm - it mentioned exclusive pre-launch of Phase 8 which I know many forummers are keen to lay their hand on, especially on corner / garden facing units.
The ad indicated corner / garden facing units are available and if this is true, contrary to what other brothers feedback, then its good news for us who missed out on such good choice units in Phase 7.
Tanya
Many thanks Coolsaint,
For pointing these two websites on expats buying up Nusajaya - fyi, I heard a big group of investors in going house shopping this weekend and will visit Bukit Indah, HH, East Ledang and other high end development.
It looks like prices in Nusajaya will be going up very soon!
Tanya
Hi Tanya, i have actually been to EL before i went to HH. The area there will be prosperous soon but it will still be abit down the road whereas for HH, you can enjoy the amenities and convenience immediately(assuming your place is ready). I have a friend who posed the question to me exactly a year ago when i was waxing lyrical about EL. He asked me how come we will have to wait so long before things become ok for EL. He also asked me how come such tight security is required for EL, panic button, motion sensor etc and if LF or LH is affected by crime through the highway, how about EL which is right beside it. At least security situation in Nusa Idaman will not impact HH directly as its separated by a hill and no common fence/gate separates the 2. I told him maybe the developer has more thoughts about security in mind and hence the devices, etc for EL.
We had a very long discussion, after getting the first one at HH, my 2nd house was supposed to be in EL actually. We agreed in the end that security is always dependant on the human factor, no matter how sophisticated the devices, the attitude of the company that hires the guard is paramount. Its not a matter of 0 crime as its not possible but how seriously a place views security.
Guards who have been seen to be sleeping just once are systematically removed from their jobs, my neighbours has observed that their supervisor regularly patrols to check on guards. Even recently when my dad drove one of my other cars in HH, even though they recognise the car, they checked my dad thoroughly and called us before letting him enter.
We have feedback this before as its a loophole but from past and current observations, the guards will follow discreetly from a distance and will actually follow the car if they see it looping around more than once.
I know this because i was questioned twice for going around the neighbourhood in the middle of the night as i was moving things from one house to the other. This was inspite of my car being well known to the guards and i turned on lights, autogate, etc.
I have new friends from LH who has since moved to HH (very recently) and their comments about the area wasn't very encouraging.
Don't get me wrong, EL is good and its a very nice place with good design and architecture. I will choose EL over HH anytime if just based on design alone.
However, for any development, its always about location x 3, the area around EL is actually more isolated as though its beside the highway, it will still take a while before the place is busy enough to be thought safer.
It is also near the place where the businessman was shot and the connecting roads to the area is actually much more quiet as there are no major shopping areas or 24 x 7 places near the area. I drove around that area many times and its very near to Gelang Patah which although has good food, etc was not a very nice area.
The police station does helps a lot but that did not deter the business man from getting killed.
Once the highway besides the main road for HH is open, it will be pretty busy as it will connect to the new highway. The one thing i did not really like about EL was the open concept where there is no fencing so any of your neighbours can just visit you or bring their dogs, it may work for some folks but we prefer to have more privacy.
I once forgot to close my gates in HH, some neighbours were walking their dog and it ran in and discharged its urine on our lawn, we stopped the dog just in time as it was going to do a "deposit".
Another time, when we forgot to close the gates, the guards came by and rang our doorbell at night to check on us. When we didn't respond, he manually closed our gates for us. We only got to know in the morning when our neighbour told us about it.
Hi Tanya88,
Just for sharing, I have visited my sis's house quite a number of times in Setia Eco garden. it's nearer to second link than causeway. Price shall be lower than above properties mentioned. (my sis bought around RM300k for double storey terrace) . it's gated and guarded. I observe that there are 3 layers of guardhouse within the premises, need to scan passes in & out. Once time, forgot to bring pass along, and the guard disallowed our entrance. Luckily one of our neighbour happened to be around, and escorted us in all the way. Can check http://www.spsetia.com.my/setia_eco_garden/
It's worth a visit even you have others better properties to consider.
FYI,don't be surprised by the number of Singaporean staying there.
Ok Setia has a number of properties which are good. Eco Setia though isn't.
Feedback from a neighbour recently who has a sibling and uncle staying there told us it wasn't a good buy. How? According to their feedback, the materials was not so good and the walls between each unit were found to be eggshell thin and had to be redone at great annoyance and irritation to the owners who were midway through moving in/renovation when this issue was discovered.
For the price, I would rather go for something like Nusa Duta, etc.
It's obvious and simple, they told everyone that all corner units were already snapped up since two months back, so as to create a 'Hot property' effect and to make potential buyers book the balance units fast before they're all gone in a blink. Now that they have successfully get buyers to book all other units even before launching, they are letting go the 8 corner units which they said were fully booked earlier on. They stated in the newspaper as "Specially reserved".
You are right, Wuji.
As the report below shows, Singapore has its fair share of challenges.
:(I called UEM and found out that the seminar is not held by UEM. It's organized by a group of investors who booked most of the corner units of phase 8.
About Phase 8... what happens is, indeed they are mostly booked. I am one of those who booked a corner unit after someone backed out.
The thing is pricing is not even finalised. They are planning to raise the price from between 10% to 15% vs Phase 7.
By then, those who are not happy with the price can still back out. That is why it is fully booked. If you are interested in any unit, just choose a unit and join the queue. When the pricing is out, you can still back out without losing your deposit. It is expected at least 10% - 30% might back out when the pricing is released.
This is also a market testing approach. Basically i told my sales guy outright, attractive as the property is... i am not going to overpay. Phase 7 itself is already not cheap, hence a 10% increase is already very steep.
The thing is pricing is not even finalised. They are planning to raise the price from between 10% to 15% vs Phase 7.
By then, those who are not happy with the price can still back out. That is why it is fully booked. If you are interested in any unit, just choose a unit and join the queue. When the pricing is out, you can still back out without losing your deposit. It is expected at least 10% - 30% might back out when the pricing is released.
This is also a market testing approach. Basically i told my sales guy outright, attractive as the property is... i am not going to overpay. Phase 7 itself is already not cheap, hence a 10% increase is already very steep.
Hi HH has similar enhanced type of security as East Ledang for the Hills precinct i.e home panic button, CCTV at the perimeter fencing etc. The Golf and Gateway precincts don't have that.
Wow that's good! So future precincts which will be marketed at higher prices will also come with better quality and facilities like high tech securities.
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