This is just the tip of the ice-berg. The "Red Army Effect" has not really bloomed in Iskandar yet. The mainlanders like just about anything that is chopped "Singapore"... Once they see Temasek developing a part of Iskandar, they will want a piece of the action too....the M'sians know this, thats why they welcome Temasek with open arms. And when that happens,....all bros here better be prepared for the rocket ride...Its really UP UP away...in price that is...hahaha.
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This is just the tip of the ice-berg. The "Red Army Effect" has not really bloomed in Iskandar yet. The mainlanders like just about anything that is chopped "Singapore"... Once they see Temasek developing a part of Iskandar, they will want a piece of the action too....the M'sians know this, thats why they welcome Temasek with open arms. And when that happens,....all bros here better be prepared for the rocket ride...Its really UP UP away...in price that is...hahaha.
That's what I believe in too. We have so much time to invest in Iskandar ahead of others and make the most profit out of it(in terms of percentage) simply because people, Singaporeans and Malaysians alike, do not believe in the capability and follow-thru effort of the Malaysian Government.
Since last year, judging from the cumulative investments into Iskandar(especially Nusajaya) and the Malaysian Government's effort and funding to improve in areas like Public safety(Police Dept), infrastrutures(eg. multi billion ringgit highways and State Admin Centre etc), publicity of Iskandar Region etc etc. My own view since then is that there is a much much higher chance for Nusajaya(I dare not say the whole of Iskandar) to be a success than to fail.
What I think is the same as you guys, which is - As Nusajaya develops and safety of the region improves, more Singaporeans and Malaysians(even those from say KL and Penang) will slowly get to know about Nusajaya and visit the tourist attractions located in Nusajaya(Like Legoland, Indoor theme park, LifeStyle Mall etc). They will finally see for themselves that this place is indeed a very nice place in Malaysia to 'Live, Work and Play'. In fact, being a totally brand new city built with careful planning, it might even be the nicest city in the whole of Malaysia. By that time(2012 tipping point), not just Singaporeans but even richer Malaysians themselves would want to have a piece of the best which their own country has to offer, even if it's just a weekend home.
Many of my friends who are businessmen in JB and can afford to invest in a few properties with their pocket money have not even visited Nusajaya yet. Why? Simply because they have the same mindset as Singaporeans in terms of the capabilities of their own Government. So rest assure that many people, even Malaysians in Johor Bahru, haven't even seen Nusajaya yet, let alone rich Malaysians from all over the country.
Oh yah I've met a Malaysian couple(both working in Sg) at the launch of Impiana Condo outside East Ledang last Sunday. They have a weekend home in Leisure Farm for the past 3 years and only just found out about Nusajaya's progress very recently(or maybe they didn't bother to find out about Nusajaya until recent happenings and publicity). They were at the launch for investment opportunity in Nusajaya's properties. When I asked them whether or not they have visited the beautiful Kota Iskandar and Puteri Harbour, their answer was, 'Where is that??'.
Luckily for us, there's the capable PM Najib, the man who walks the talk, the man of action.
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Its never too late. Very easy to pick up. Uses Roman alphabet with efficient phonetic spelling.
No feminine/masculine.
No present tense, past tense "Yesterday I go market, today I go market, tomorrow I go market."
Bahasa Indonesia is actually Malay. When my mother in law speaks Javanese, I can only listen out for my name and hope she's saying only good things.
Back in Spore when we were younger, one of my closest buddies who don't speak the language really busted my gut.
He claimed he had just been to the best makan place in Malaysia the night before.
When asked where, what road or landmark.
He proclaimed with the pride of someone who had just discovered his very own gourmet heaven..
"I forgot the name of the place but it was at Jalan Sehala, Johor Bahru."
Hehe i decided to buy it for try, cost less than the Osim replacement filter. Hey it is not bad, has a filtered spray, unlike the Osim filtered water is in one stream, only unfiltered water has spray.
Hey you know anything about the water tank cleaning? I'm curious how people keep the tangki on top of their houses clean? If not cleaned, wouldn't the water very dirty?! Hehe no experience on this as whole life in Singapore lived in high rise!
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LOL... That's funny.Asking questions to clarify doubts can only help that much. Best is to go down to experience it for yourself.
Have been to jb very frequently since june this year - that was the very first time we heard of bukit indah . Have visited some of the eateries recommended on this forum and of course various properties. I must say JB is very livable and accessible. The journey has been an exciting one. And my next to do list is picking up the Malay Language. Cheers!
Have been to jb very frequently since june this year - that was the very first time we heard of bukit indah . Have visited some of the eateries recommended on this forum and of course various properties. I must say JB is very livable and accessible. The journey has been an exciting one. And my next to do list is picking up the Malay Language. Cheers!
yep that seems to be the sentiment. i have m'sian relatives living along the tebrau corridor, to them nusajaya is like a myth. i guess they are generally too disillusioned to believe progress can occur after decades of lackluster (in fact backwards!) city development, upkeep and nato (empty promises). this may lead to a catch 22 situation which I hope does not become reality though. when the general johorians have caught up to the buzz, all opportunities may be priced out of their reach and become a predominantly foreign playground. This may adversely affect social harmony especially if shrewd politicians fan the fire to collect votes creating dissent. we already saw how the liberal FT policies in SG created a huge backlash politically though the situations are fairly disaggregated in the 2 scenarios.
Actually the progress is more credited to Othman and Wan Abdullah Wan Ibrahim than Najib who's really just given the 2 men his blessings mostly (his wife is another marcos in the making I suspect just looking at her countless different colors of the famed birken bags alone that she owns). I am most impressed by the city wide improvement not limited to nusajaya especially road works. If the infrastructure works continue apace, the quality of living index can only move upwards for all.
I wish to pick up min conversational Malay one day.. Attended some courses before with my own money...but have since returned everything back to the guru( teacher rt?)
Just got a Umobile prepaid number, the store told me only need to reload RM10 can call for one month and receive incoming call for three months, so one year only need to re-load RM40 and can receive call throughout the year. Not written in the brochure, not sure whether it really works that way
You are so environment friendly, i see all those ang moh staying in humongous houses in the west. Recently i watched this BBC decor show and they featured one normal (i.e not extra rich) couple with a child staying in this humongous house in the UK non-urban area. Everything is huge and open. The view is perfect, no neighbour in sight! Where to find such house in Asia? So far only see some in south Taiwan.
Haha cannot be lah, sure we know more than three words just by driving on the roads - AWAS (danger), masuk (enter), keluar (exit), berhenti (stop), kereta (car), bas (bus). I had done a basic Malay course in community centre many years ago, was surprised to know then some words like sabun are actually Malay (soap). So you probably know more words than you thought so.
I think Malay not that difficult to learn though I have forgotten everything by now. Somebody can tell me satu ragus limu puluh ringgit empat sens is how people say RM154.40? If not, how to say it correctly? Trying to learn to understand what is the amount supermarket cashier is telling me to pay. Can't find through online Malay translator. But English and Chinese are everywhere in supermarket, and the cashiers/staff at Jusco etc all can speak English, so can buy things easily even without knowing Malay.
Few weeks ago I met a property agent in Singapore.. When I asked her on her opinion regarding JB, she frowned. She is a Malaysian but might live in Singapore for too long..
On a separate occassion when my wife family has a gathering, there is a distant relative who is a big property and timber tycoon from Sarawak.. He commented negatively on Malaysian govt, saying they built hardwares but not softwares etc..even though that is how he made his fortunes... When I asked him about Iskandar, he paused..and when he continued, he said Iskandar might be different..and better chance of success..
I take this as positive news..
On a separate occassion when my wife family has a gathering, there is a distant relative who is a big property and timber tycoon from Sarawak.. He commented negatively on Malaysian govt, saying they built hardwares but not softwares etc..even though that is how he made his fortunes... When I asked him about Iskandar, he paused..and when he continued, he said Iskandar might be different..and better chance of success..
I take this as positive news..
2011 Uncertainty drives Middle Eastern investors to the "sensible market" of Malaysian property
Published September 27th, 2011 - 12:32 GMT via SyndiGate.info
The enduring legacy of 2011 will be one of uncertainty in the Middle Eastern investment community, as the effects of the Arab Spring on a regional level, and both the Eurozone crisis and downgrading of Americaʼs economy make themselves felt in markets around the world.
As a result, IP Global notes that Middle East investors have reacted by turning their sights toward the more stable investment markets, such as those of Malaysian real estate.
The release of figures to highlight such a trend was made at Cityscape Global 2011, now in its tenth successful year. According to internal research, IP Global has seen a marked rise of UAE investors into Malaysia of 11.4% Q3 2010 - Q3 2011, underlining its perception as "safe haven" market.
According to Tim Murphy, IP Global's Founder and Managing Director, "Malaysia is a sensible market and tends to perform more steadily than the rest of Asia. The property market is well regulated, such that speculators cannot buy and sell quickly, so it doesn't tend to create a boom and bust scenario. That is why we have seen 5.3% growth in the past 19 years.
A positive Malaysian economic outlook, with the Malaysian Ringgit (formerly Malaysian Dollar) growing in strength against the US Dollar, the country is providing its investors with huge potential. Malaysiaʼs transport links and infrastructure is rapidly gaining pace across many of its cities, and with tourism continuing to rise, real estate investment is predicted to yield great returns for the astute property investor.
Published September 27th, 2011 - 12:32 GMT via SyndiGate.info
The enduring legacy of 2011 will be one of uncertainty in the Middle Eastern investment community, as the effects of the Arab Spring on a regional level, and both the Eurozone crisis and downgrading of Americaʼs economy make themselves felt in markets around the world.
As a result, IP Global notes that Middle East investors have reacted by turning their sights toward the more stable investment markets, such as those of Malaysian real estate.
The release of figures to highlight such a trend was made at Cityscape Global 2011, now in its tenth successful year. According to internal research, IP Global has seen a marked rise of UAE investors into Malaysia of 11.4% Q3 2010 - Q3 2011, underlining its perception as "safe haven" market.
According to Tim Murphy, IP Global's Founder and Managing Director, "Malaysia is a sensible market and tends to perform more steadily than the rest of Asia. The property market is well regulated, such that speculators cannot buy and sell quickly, so it doesn't tend to create a boom and bust scenario. That is why we have seen 5.3% growth in the past 19 years.
A positive Malaysian economic outlook, with the Malaysian Ringgit (formerly Malaysian Dollar) growing in strength against the US Dollar, the country is providing its investors with huge potential. Malaysiaʼs transport links and infrastructure is rapidly gaining pace across many of its cities, and with tourism continuing to rise, real estate investment is predicted to yield great returns for the astute property investor.
Haha cannot be lah, sure we know more than three words just by driving on the roads - AWAS (danger), masuk (enter), keluar (exit), berhenti (stop), kereta (car), bas (bus). I had done a basic Malay course in community centre many years ago, was surprised to know then some words like sabun are actually Malay (soap). So you probably know more words than you thought so.
I think Malay not that difficult to learn though I have forgotten everything by now. Somebody can tell me satu ragus limu puluh ringgit empat sens is how people say RM154.40? If not, how to say it correctly? Trying to learn to understand what is the amount supermarket cashier is telling me to pay. Can't find through online Malay translator. But English and Chinese are everywhere in supermarket, and the cashiers/staff at Jusco etc all can speak English, so can buy things easily even without knowing Malay.
today i met a malay woman cleaner at Bestari Heights Show house...she speaks relatively good English ...
Hi bro, I am still happy for your family members for getting the house!!!
Hi Bro, it is one of my family members who is getting (how i wish i have more bullets).
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Hi Wuqi,
I don't think it is your obligations to answer people's questions especially those taking this for granted. You including many bros here have already been so kind and generous in answering people's questions!
"are u avoiding me or something..?" sounds like some ex-girlfriend who was dumped by her ex-boyfriend chasing after the ex-boyfriend. I had read several pages of this thread before joining this forum and I think it is of those new members' interest to read through those pages themselves starting from the first page. I haven't finished reading all pages but I just like many others here am reading several pages each day to catch up.
All I want to say is thank everyone who has offered help, advice and suggestions and shared their experience, thoughts and feeling from time to time.
I don't think it is your obligations to answer people's questions especially those taking this for granted. You including many bros here have already been so kind and generous in answering people's questions!
"are u avoiding me or something..?" sounds like some ex-girlfriend who was dumped by her ex-boyfriend chasing after the ex-boyfriend. I had read several pages of this thread before joining this forum and I think it is of those new members' interest to read through those pages themselves starting from the first page. I haven't finished reading all pages but I just like many others here am reading several pages each day to catch up.
All I want to say is thank everyone who has offered help, advice and suggestions and shared their experience, thoughts and feeling from time to time.
Thank you very much for the assurance! I will need to get one of these there before people start queing up for one.
Hi bro, Great info! Now I have a clearer picture of the development. I know my potential future neighbors may be rich and didn't know they could be that rich!
Hi mathstub bro,
If you're talking about Superlinks, the prices have always been high as compared to normal links, the last time HH launched superlinks was probably a year ago at The Golf, and it was already selling from between 650k to 800k and above. The last few intermediate superlinks at The Gateway were sold for close to 600K in 2008. Of course some of these units have golf view. Then again we can't compare launching prices between precincts as these units are launched in different years, not concurrently. The reason why the developer has priced it this high is mainly because prices have generally increased over time. To a lesser extent, i would say The Hills units are generally better in terms of topography with huge flat terrain, quality, size, design, landscape, management, security, layout of precinct, golf views, privacy and location as it is nearer to the club house. This is also why some of the well known top gov servants (including Johor top man chief minister) and sultan have units there. I would say the security is tight.
Over at The Gateway, last i heard, the Sri Lankan group has flipped most if not all of their 40 units. Most of the units are now owner occupied or rented out.
There's quite a lot of resale activity going on at The Golf, if you're a resident there, you would have noticed a cluster home owner driving a black Lamborghini, he stays there, some of these people drive cars that cost multiple times more than their home. I believe the prices are still sustainable at this level.
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So if we say it is necessary to learn Malay, will he/she learn? Well, actually learning an additional language is not a bad thing.
When I went to Thailand as a kid, I learnt Thai language and this had nothing to do with survival but more for fun. This language stayed with me for the rest of my life. Now every time when I go to Thailand to buy something and bargain with the seller, I will always first pretend I don't understand the Thai language and hear what those sellers say behind my back. I usually end up getting something a lot cheaper after revealing I can speak Thai perfectly and they think I am some Chinese Thai or Thailand born Chinese, whatever you name it.
When I went to Thailand as a kid, I learnt Thai language and this had nothing to do with survival but more for fun. This language stayed with me for the rest of my life. Now every time when I go to Thailand to buy something and bargain with the seller, I will always first pretend I don't understand the Thai language and hear what those sellers say behind my back. I usually end up getting something a lot cheaper after revealing I can speak Thai perfectly and they think I am some Chinese Thai or Thailand born Chinese, whatever you name it.
Hi bro,
You certainly look more knowledgeable than me seeing the info and experience you have shared with me and I thank you very much for your kindness for this. You are one of the good examples to show the benefit of reading posts in the thread. I enjoy a lot reading the posts in this thread starting from page 1.
You certainly look more knowledgeable than me seeing the info and experience you have shared with me and I thank you very much for your kindness for this. You are one of the good examples to show the benefit of reading posts in the thread. I enjoy a lot reading the posts in this thread starting from page 1.
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