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contra

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Hi Contra, actually i shared that dream as well, this is definitely doable but we need locals, correct foundation for the business to be laid and the right group people to take care of this as its a full time business. Especially for certain crops like pineapple where even the presence of 1 single wild boar could lay months of hard work to waste. You will definitely also need a pick up, etc.

Hi Jasonjst, best way to try this and go in without much risk is to rent a piece of land for several years instead of buying, survey it and ensure that there are existing crops similar or what you want to grow and just try it out. That way you can always get out easily later without too much headaches.


Wuqi, Very right. Do homework, know locals or wait & learn from experience until can self-consider to be local enough to venture into agriculture. I think running a non-agri business is less risky. Then again I am biased as I hate snakes :smile: You seem almost local by now with your vast reservoir of local knowledge & experiences ...

In my view, one mistake my dad made was to buy the land without direct access from any road (fact is it is not easy to find one that is next to a road nor directly accessible from an existing road). It was a speculation and urged on by his local 'friends' that someday a road will be made thru it, when development was supposed to come, which did not happen. (At the end of the day was his own responsibility). We always had to go thru someone else's land. Lucky they were nice people but who knows, their descendents could have been a 'holes who could have demanded toll. So you can imagine it would have been very lucky to have avoided any capital loss when trying to sell such a land. All in, was cheaper to have bought durians from the market .

As for form of commercial enterprise, LLP is unfortunately not yet existing in Malaysia but by the time forumers can come together, it might be ready ....As you know, right now only options are limited liability companies (sdn bhd), sole proprietor or partnership. All must still be registered with Registrar of companies but only sdn bhd need make the usual audited accounts etc.

Jason, I sometimes think over-analysis causes paralysis. After all, rewards come after taking risks. In this case however I would take wuqi's experience as a good advice as the risk does seem quite high.
 

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No lah actually farming is not my cup of tea lah, too much headaches , more like a collective idea that come out last night .
For personal biz , at most I go buy a shop and get rental .. as simple as that lor . Get rental from SG , come to
JB and live with the few Ks converted into RM . Do we need more than that to survive here in JB ?
Infact my shophouse in Bestari should be ready for rental as soon as next month lor , it is near the AliCafe , what do you think of that location ?

Yes, its the easiest and if you have not much in the way of loans, then you can press the "retire" button and have an option to take the slower path. How long can one happily survive always being in the fast lane? Sometimes, one just likes to take it slow. Good for you Jasonjst, you already are there and this definitely will be a good yield neighbourhood. All set there. :smile:
 

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All good points there Contra, the road access was another thing we considered as well as squatters who could basically come and set fire if they are driven off, etc.
Yes LLP is not but reliable sources told me that 2 plus years after it was implemented in SG, its now being considered seriously here in MY although its still not confirmed and its likely that mainly only professionals would opt for it. Sdn Bhd needs resolutions, minutes, as well as audits and even the incorporation and winding up is more problematic and withdrawal of nominees/directors is a long drawn process without the right assistance.

Jason, I would still say to go ahead as long as you gather a few good guys whom you can trust each other and get all the foundation done up, don't let me stop you, i am just the friendly guy at the exit with the green light on top of him asking if you have checked your chute, where is your backup and to avoid the trees/powerlines.

I am definitely all for it provided its all done right.
 
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like to share a true story: due to hi operating cost and termination of land use by dear sg government, a guy closed his pet farm and moved to johor, put in a million S$ and restart a pet farm to continue his passion of saving stray dogs and cats. sg pet welfare groups support him over the years. sg pet owners who paid a small sum to dump their pets in the farm usually dun turn up again to take care of pets or pay for any service. Local gangs demanded protection money. The guy ran out of fund in a few years and is/was struggling to survive.
I won't be surprised if I hear about dear sg families dump their elders across the causeway in old folks home and never show up or pay again, as it already happens in sg old folks home.
 

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Where you gets those electronic sprinkles?

I am going to get my house pretty soon..maybe another 3 months? However, kid still studying in Singapore so cant live in JB all the time and thus need some electronic to help me watering plants... Btw I bought a Ramba robot from ebay to help cleaning the floor.. US is selling at 290... Singapore is selling at 995.. How to live in Singapore when everything is so expensive?

Am also thinking of getting the Ramba Robot from the states. To and fro everyday so would like to relax a bit on the weekend. Still got lotsa cleaning and ironing to do.

Btw, are you getting the vacumm cleaner or the robot mop?
 

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Am also thinking of getting the Ramba Robot from the states. To and fro everyday so would like to relax a bit on the weekend. Still got lotsa cleaning and ironing to do.

Btw, are you getting the vacumm cleaner or the robot mop?

Robot mop really that good ? Mine became white elephant already ...
 

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like to share a true story: due to hi operating cost and termination of land use by dear sg government, a guy closed his pet farm and moved to johor, put in a million S$ and restart a pet farm to continue his passion of saving stray dogs and cats. sg pet welfare groups support him over the years. sg pet owners who paid a small sum to dump their pets in the farm usually dun turn up again to take care of pets or pay for any service. Local gangs demanded protection money. The guy ran out of fund in a few years and is/was struggling to survive.
I won't be surprised if I hear about dear sg families dump their elders across the causeway in old folks home and never show up or pay again, as it already happens in sg old folks home.

They charge very high like 1.7K a mth for basic stay in a home in SG ... how not to run road if families run out of money for kids , housing , etc . So if they put their elders across the causeway , chances of run road is lower , but still will have lots of unresponsible one lah ....
 
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cathylmg

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They charge very high like 1.7K a mth for basic stay in a home in SG ... how not to run road if families run out of money for kids , housing , etc . So if they put their elders across the causeway , chances of run road is lower , but still will have lots of unresponsible one lah ....

Actually I don't like the idea of putting the elderly in a home. Imagine your own children dumping you there? I'd prefer a properly trained maid, or send the maid for training, to help take care of them. In this way, we or whoever sibblings who are free during the day, can just drop-in to give some supervision. Or spot check the maids. Also the elderly will still be able to see their children and grandchildren. :wink:

I considered dumping the elder in a home an irresponsible act.
 

jasonjst

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:O Care to share your experiences? Which type have you gotten? What happened?

Find it just take too long to do the job leh , also need to make sure room is clear of any wires , rugs , relatively open space to work effectively . If go a small area , just suck it up with a protable vacuum lor , or sweep away is less hassle .
Cant remember Ramba .... xxxx
Anyway , my batt gone already because too long never use .
 
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jasonjst

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Actually I don't like the idea of putting the elderly in a home. Imagine your own children dumping you there? I'd prefer a properly trained maid, or send the maid for training, to help take care of them. In this way, we or whoever sibblings who are free during the day, can just drop-in to give some supervision. Or spot check the maids. Also the elderly will still be able to see their children and grandchildren. :wink:

I considered dumping the elder in a home an irresponsible act.

Sometime ppl bo pian one lah ... lots of issues you can never understand unless you are in their shoes lor
 

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Hi Cathylmg,

In my experience last year when I didn't have maid for a period of 6 months, I relied the cleaning on the ramba robot..
I programmed the robot to work every other day at 10am. When I got home at night, I'll just pour out the dust that it collected.. Not too bad in my opinion.. and the robot would return to its charging station after battery running out..
However you need to prepare the room to make it friendly for the robot to move around..
Also since it is a robot, you need to lower the expectation too.. I found it clean much better than my old indo maid...




Am also thinking of getting the Ramba Robot from the states. To and fro everyday so would like to relax a bit on the weekend. Still got lotsa cleaning and ironing to do.

Btw, are you getting the vacumm cleaner or the robot mop?
 

cathylmg

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Hi Cathylmg,

In my experience last year when I didn't have maid for a period of 6 months, I relied the cleaning on the ramba robot..
I programmed the robot to work every other day at 10am. When I got home at night, I'll just pour out the dust that it collected.. Not too bad in my opinion.. and the robot would return to its charging station after battery running out..
However you need to prepare the room to make it friendly for the robot to move around..
Also since it is a robot, you need to lower the expectation too.. I found it clean much better than my old indo maid...

May I know where did you get the cleaner? Which brand? Did you bought it online or in Singapore. I find the sumsung one in Singapore enticing. But then again, comes with a ridiculous price tag.
 

arsenal

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May I know where did you get the cleaner? Which brand? Did you bought it online or in Singapore. I find the sumsung one in Singapore enticing. But then again, comes with a ridiculous price tag.

What I bought is irobot 560 from consumer electronic. around 270US + Fedex shipment =450++

Below is a listing from Singapore firm..
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/iRobot-Roomb...4?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_216&hash=item2565a036ac

I think irobot is better than samsung.. check the review..
 

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price for Fairway Suites South Tower in HH is out... going at about 440-450psf. Floor to floor difference of 10k. Biggest unit is only about 1243sft.
 
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LeMans2011

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like to share a true story: due to hi operating cost and termination of land use by dear sg government, a guy closed his pet farm and moved to johor, put in a million S$ and restart a pet farm to continue his passion of saving stray dogs and cats. sg pet welfare groups support him over the years. sg pet owners who paid a small sum to dump their pets in the farm usually dun turn up again to take care of pets or pay for any service. Local gangs demanded protection money. The guy ran out of fund in a few years and is/was struggling to survive.
I won't be surprised if I hear about dear sg families dump their elders across the causeway in old folks home and never show up or pay again, as it already happens in sg old folks home.

Oh where did you hear about his plight? I was of the impression he is doing ok. But he is quite resourceful, printing calendars and all that for sale (i bought one :smile:)
There is only one person who did this. He also has a few horses in his farm and some groups in SG organises excursion to the farm which is like a little zoo. Apart from him there is a Johorean who operated a shelter like him, but she is in a worse state.

My respects to these people for the sacrifice they make, i support them where i can occasionally.
 
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fc3s1

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Calling all HH guys,

i was offered 600k for a sub sale newer intermediate cluster terrace at HH (GOLF) and was looking to jump right into it.
kindly offer some advise n opinions on the price n location..
what should i look out for?
Thanks!
 

ginfreely

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:O Care to share your experiences? Which type have you gotten? What happened?

I bought two different models from US some years ago too, both batteries didn't last long, cannot work after one year plus, better spend the money on part time maid instead. :biggrin:
 

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Oh where did you hear about his plight? I was of the impression he is doing ok. But he is quite resourceful, printing calendars and all that for sale (i bought one :smile:) There is only one person who did this. He also has a few horses in his farm and some groups in SG organises excursion to the farm which is like a little zoo. Apart from him there is a Johorean who operated a shelter like him, but she is in a worse state. My respects to these people for the sacrifice they make, i support them where i can occasionally.

The move of Noah's Ark out from Singapore is a long and sorry tale. Malu for Singapore.
Raymund the founder of Noah's Ark is a glorious eccentric, now with 850 dogs and 500 cats, a three legged monkey, some horses and a growing number of rabbits and the odd rescue of a civet cat, some discarded pythons .... in a true sanctuary extremely well run, in Ulu Choh near Pekan Nanas. Not hard to get to, and when they organize visits it is a super visit from Singapore. Drop in visitors are not welcome because the doggies run freely around and there is so much work in cleaning, organizing and feeding. But when the sanctuary is open to visitors you will get your fill of petting cats and dogs. Utterly marvellous for animal lovers.

It has been and will probably always be a huge struggle to keep the sanctuary going: fund raising is hell. Staff has to be paid, the cost of feed monthly is phenomenal. Raymund is organized and practical and still it is Very Hard Work. There are many formerly abused and abandoned dogs and cats - you see several three legged dogs, one-eyed cats and other survivors and rescued fellows. The saddest case of a survivor I saw was a cat with no tail and one eye from abuse as a kitten. But there are far more horrific stories that Raymund can tell, and truly tansi, such dedication and commitment is wondrous to behold.

Raymund has slaved to get Singapore authorities to wake up to allowing cats in HDB flats and pursue sterilization of strays there. He has another huge task in helping with education of kindness to animals in Malaysia and to work with vets and the SPCA in the various states to promote sterilization.

The website is below. No one person can solve this problem, and none of us has that much money to donate. But maybe we can each give a little?

http://www.nanasanctuary.blogspot.com/
 

LeMans2011

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Yes, he is a great man... it is utter shame that SG authorities make all decisions on the basis of dollars and cents. At the very least they should have offered a "less prime" location such as those Lim Chu Kang areas. It is really like a beautiful dream quashed. But kudos to the man for his perseverance.

A less resourceful equivalent of him will be a lady known as "aunty jiajia" a local Johorean. She has some help from global pets and i do make a point to drop in some donation whenever i'm there. However, it seems her location is a little hard to get to... need to drive through a palm oil plantation... something like that.

To be very honest i am not an animal lover... i only love my own dog... but my wife has quite soft spot for poor strays :smile:
 
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