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This underscores the execution risks in Iskandar. The good news is Legoland has proven itself. What is uncertain is the execution of the other investments.

It seems to me that property prices have priced in the success of these other investments. Buyers beware.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/foreign-schools-find-iskandars-education-hub-less-than-stellar/

NUSAJAYA, Dec 24 – Foreign education institutions appeared to face numerous hurdles while setting up shop in Johor’s new township here, the New York Times reported yesterday.

The institutions are part of EduCity, a 242.81-hectare education hub developed by Iskandar Investment Berhad, a company jointly owned by the government’s investment arm Khazanah Nasional Berhad, the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) and Johor-owned Kumpulan Prasarana Rakyat Johor Berhad (KPRJ).

Representatives of Newcastle University Medicine Malaysia (NUMed) and Raffles University Iskandar (RUI) cited lack of bureaucratic independence, curriculum clash, and Johor’s relative unattractiveness to Singapore as some of the problems that they face.

“The one big risk is whether you can adapt your proven model in one jurisdiction to another where there are fundamental differences,” NUMed’s provost Professor Reginald Jordan told New York Times.

Jordan highlighted that changes to entrance qualifications or fees must be approved by the Ministry of Higher Education, whereas the matters would be dealt with internally back in England.

“I find that exceptionally frustrating,” he added.
 

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This underscores the execution risks in Iskandar. The good news is Legoland has proven itself. What is uncertain is the execution of the other investments.

It seems to me that property prices have priced in the success of these other investments. Buyers beware.

Exactly why we need to constantly remind ourselves not to get carried away.
 

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Exactly why we need to constantly remind ourselves not to get carried away.
It's not too bad based on the actual New York Times reporting.

Massive Education Complex Takes Shape in Malaysia

NUSAJAYA, MALAYSIA — The Malaysian state of Johor has long been viewed as an inexpensive shopping area across the border from Singapore, or a stop en route to the brighter lights of Kuala Lumpur.

Now Malaysia is trying to upgrade a hodgepodge of gritty industrial towns and rural villages with Iskandar Malaysia, a planned eco-city and trading zone with districts for tourism, health care and education.

Part of the development is EduCity, a 240-hectare, or 600-acre, plot of land in Nusajaya, which is being developed by Iskandar Investment Berhad. This company is majority-owned by investment entities linked to the federal and state authorities. Iskandar Investment hopes that Nusajaya’s lush green fields, neatly paved roads and two theme parks will eventually become a second home to more than 16,000 students.

The developer has signed up 10 education institutions to set up local campuses in EduCity. Two of them, Marlborough College Malaysia and Newcastle University Medicine Malaysia, have begun full-time operations; the others are scheduled to do so by 2017. The developer is also building a 12,000-seat sports complex and a student village.

Marlborough is an international boarding school owned by an elite British private school of the same name founded in 1843. Another pedigreed school project is Raffles University Iskandar, which is run by a Singapore corporation that operates schools across Asia. (It has no relation to the Raffles Hotel.)

They are joined by the Netherlands Maritime Institute of Technology; two British institutions: the University of Southampton and the University of Reading; the Management Development Institute of Singapore; and a tie-up between Malaysia’s Multimedia University and the University of Southern California. The Johann Cruyff Institute for Sports Studies, a sports management school started by the Dutch soccer star Johann Cruyff, will operate a Malaysian campus here as well.

The only secondary school aside from Marlborough is the Raffles American School. The rest are institutes of higher education.

An increasing number of Western schools are opening campuses in Asia and the Middle East, and not without controversy. The Yale-National University of Singapore College, expected to start operations next year, has come under criticism by those who question whether a U.S. liberal arts college can operate in a society that does not have full political freedoms. From Abu Dhabi to Shanghai, there are concerns over whether schools can offer the same level of quality and academic freedom overseas as they do back home.

For foreign schools used to autonomy, operating in Malaysia has been challenging.

“The one big risk is whether you can adapt your proven model in one jurisdiction to another where there are fundamental differences,” said Professor Reginald Jordan, the provost at Newcastle’s Malaysian branch. He cited the example of the University of New South Wales, whose Singapore campus closed after just one semester in 2007.

He said that in England, changes to entrance qualifications or fees were generally internal decisions. But in Malaysia, such modifications must be approved by the Ministry of Higher Education. “I find that exceptionally frustrating,” he said.

Professor Malek Pourzanjani, the president of Raffles University, said he could not use staff members from affiliated schools as more than guest lectures without government approval.

EduCity will operate on an unusual model. Most of the universities will only have one faculty or department. For instance, the local branch of Newcastle will specialize in medicine, while the University of Southampton will focus on engineering.

Dr. Jordan, the Newcastle branch provost, said this arrangement allowed for lower costs and made it easier for his university to set up its program, which has around 250 students in its medical program. Newcastle, which plans to add a biomedical sciences degree next year, will allow some students to spend a year at the main campus in Britain.

One complication with overseas campuses is that they do not all offer equivalent degrees and transferable credits with their parent schools.

At Newscastle, students at the Malaysian campus will graduate with bona fide University of Newcastle degrees. But students cannot transfer freely between campuses because of British and E.U. quotas on foreign medical students.

Raffles University is exploring a program where students do half the work for their degree at an affiliated school and half in Iskandar. Dr. Pourzanjani, the university president, said he was in discussions with other EduCity institutions about offering parts of their programs to his students.

The Malaysian government has offered incentives to lure foreign professionals and institutions. According to the Iskandar Regional Development Authority, “knowledge workers” who meet a certain criteria will pay a 15 percent flat income tax rate, which is significantly lower than what most foreign faculty would be paying in their home countries.

The authority also noted that institutions operating in Iskandar could be entirely owned by their foreign parent schools, whereas those operating elsewhere in the country require a Malaysian partner.

Iskandar Investment did not respond directly to questions about whether it gave financial assistance to the partner schools in EduCity.

Dr. Jordan said Newcastle University had received no financial assistance and was set to invest at least $180 million over 30 years on its Malaysian campus.

“This is not some neo-imperialist ploy to ship money home,” he said. “It’s a myth that we’re all here for free. Iskandar is about inward investment.”

The schools at EduCity say that although curriculums were adjusted to reflect the local context, the academic standards at their Malaysian campuses are as rigorous as those at the parent schools.

“The standards are the same,” Dr. Jordan said.

He added that quotas on international medical students in Britain meant that Newcastle’s parent campus had to turn away some qualified Malaysian students.

“It doesn’t matter if you’re black, blue, or with spots, the students who we take are eligible to register in the U.K,” he said. “It’s the same program here.”

At Newcastle, students take exams that are prepared in Britain. At Raffles University, which is operating out of a temporary campus about a half-hour drive from EduCity, the bulk of the curriculum was designed in Singapore.

Malaysia’s lower operating costs have translated into savings for students.

Newcastle’s five-year M.B.B.S., or bachelor of medicine, bachelor of surgery program, cost students up to 100,000 Malaysian ringgit, or about $32,700, per year. In Britain, comparable fees could be as high as £27,305, or $43,800.

At the Singapore campuses of Raffles Education, a degree program typically costs more than 14,000 Singapore dollars, or $11,440, a year. At EduCity, it starts at roughly half that price. “We’re providing access and options that previously didn’t exist,” Dr. Pourzanjani said.

EduCity advertises itself as an international destination that can attract students from across Asia. But with the exception of Marlborough College, which caters to an expatriate clientele, most students are from Johor.

At Newcastle, only a handful of students come from Singapore. Raffles University, which only recently received approval to enroll foreigners, has 30 Malaysian students. Noting that it was still in the “early days,” Dr. Pourzanjani acknowledged the difficulty in attracting students and staff members from Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.

“There’s a negative perception to Johor, and changing perceptions takes time and hard work,” he said. He added that his school participated in road shows and campaigns to promote Iskandar.

There have also been delays in construction. According to Dr. Jordan, Newcastle University opened in Iskandar last year with the anticipation that the sports complex and student housing areas would be ready. As of November, both were not fully complete, though Iskandar Investment housed students at its own cost.

Another concern is whether top Malaysian students who can afford to study abroad will choose to do so back home.

“I considered studying in Malaysia but the outside world is so much bigger, and you can learn things you just can’t at home,” said Penny Cheong, a 20-year-old biomedical sciences student at the University of Newcastle’s campus in England.

“I’ve learned to communicate with people who are culturally opposite to me and to adapt to the environment I’m thrown into. If I were still in Malaysia, I would not have learned all these things.”
 

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Legoland is so successful and popular that they have to limit the number of visitors. When the park is full, they will stop admiting visitors. Be sure to check their website before going. Here's the link http://www.legoland.com.my/Plan/Latest-News/
 
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More from New York Times archives. Quite a balanced report.

Over Singapore's Border, Cheap Labor Source Becomes Vibrant Economy

SINGAPORE — When Tastyfood Industries decided to increase production to meet demand in Africa and the Middle East, the maker of Mr Cafe instant coffee and Vitamax cereal did not expand its Singapore factory or another one it owns in Xiamen, China.

Instead, it plans to close its Singapore plant next year and move up the road to the Iskandar economic zone in Malaysia, where it will set up a factory three times the size on low-cost land and hire willing workers as cheaply as it can in China.

“New-generation Singaporeans do not like production positions, as they are more educated now,” said Tastyfood’s founder and managing director, Joseph Lim, a Singapore native. “It’s not easy to manage a manufacturing company in Singapore unless you are in high-tech, high-value-added businesses like pharmaceuticals.”

Singapore companies dominate the companies setting up factories in Iskandar, accounting for about 15 percent of the 32.7 billion ringgit, or $10.7 billion, committed as of June, according to the Iskandar Regional Development Authority.

Companies from Germany, Japan, the Netherlands and Spain are among other large manufacturers in the zone in the southern Malaysian state of Johor, while companies from the United Arab Emirates are involved in housing and other property projects.

Mr. Lim, who will keep Tastyfood’s marketing and product development operations in Singapore, said a factory worker in Malaysia or China earned between 400 and 500 Singapore dollars per month, or $330 to $410, on average — less than half the wage in the wealthy city-state.

Proximity is also key. The new Iskandar factory is just a 30-minute drive from Tastyfood’s home base and a major market, he said, much closer than the four-hour flight from Xiamen.

“Doing business in China also carries a lot of risks, although things have been improving there,” Mr. Lim said.

Manufacturers are not the only ones heading to Iskandar.

The theme park Legoland and Marlborough College of Britain chose Iskandar for their first forays into Asia. The U.S.-based Simon Property Group set up its first Premium Outlets shopping center in Southeast Asia there through a joint venture with Genting Group of Malaysia, with an eye on Singapore’s affluent customers.

Being cheaper, and yet close by, is making Iskandar and nearby areas popular among bakeries, dry cleaners and other small and medium-size companies that have storefronts in Singapore but do much of their work just across the border.

Awfully Chocolate — a Singapore cake and ice-cream retailer that has expanded into China, Indonesia and Taiwan — makes some of the items for the 10 stores in its home market at a facility near the state capital, Johor Bahru.

In recent years, Singapore has begun to focus on banking, wealth management and other services, moving on from the manufacturing boom of the 1970s and 1980s that first brought prosperity to the city.

Iskandar, a 2,200-square-kilometer, or 850-square-mile, zone three times the size of Singapore, is just across a narrow strip of water, and Malaysia is pushing its many advantages for factories looking to relocate.

Land prices are far lower, and electricity costs are about half of Singapore’s rates. Tax incentives are also on offer.

Tastyfood paid 6.5 million ringgit for its site in Iskandar, which is the size of two soccer fields — about $160 per square meter, or $15 per square foot. Singapore prices industrial sites by the potential built-up area, and the cost could have been up to 30 times more.

Many see the budding relationship between Iskandar and Singapore as similar to the role that Shenzhen, once home to fishing villages and now a vibrant Chinese manufacturing center, played in the growth of Hong Kong.

The Hong Kong Trade Development Council says companies based in the semiautonomous Chinese city now employ about 11 million people in Shenzhen and other parts of the Pearl River Delta but still use Hong Kong for logistics, marketing, banking and other services.

But the shared history of the two Southeast Asian hubs may give some investors pause. Singapore was once part of Malaysia but was expelled in 1965 amid tensions between the country’s Malay-dominated government and the city-state’s ethnic Chinese rulers.

Fifteen years ago, Lee Kuan Yew, the former prime minister of Singapore, derided Johor as “notorious for shootings, muggings and carjackings” — reflecting the still testy relationship as much as the rough-and-tumble realities of the Malaysian state.

Singapore companies were initially lukewarm about Iskandar, and interest picked up only after the two countries signed a broad agreement in 2010 to address longstanding issues.

Both countries are discussing shared immigration checkpoints to speed up traffic on the two bridges across the causeway, along with ferry and water services. Singapore’s subway operator, SMRT, will build a rapid rail transit link to connect Johor to Singapore by 2018.

A number of Singapore residents have already bought homes in Iskandar, including Mark Mobius, a fund manager for Templeton, who has a bungalow for weekend getaways.

IHH Healthcare of Malaysia is building a 300-bed hospital that will provide medical treatment to Singaporeans at half the cost they would pay at home.

The many changes “gave us the extra encouragement,” said the Singapore businessman Ricky Tan, whose Kinderworld group is building a private school with boarding facilities in Iskandar.

Ismail Ibrahim, head of the Iskandar Regional Development Authority, said the Singapore companies in Iskandar were mostly small and medium-size businesses, but he said he was confident that larger companies would follow.

“We have the space, we have the geographical position and we have all the necessary infrastructure,” he said. “With the right signals from both governments, big players from Singapore will be definitely coming in.”

The Singapore state investor Temasek Holdings is involved in two large property developments in Iskandar that will cost an estimated 3 billion ringgit.

Still, some analysts warn that improved Singapore-Malaysia relations could hit a few speed bumps in the medium term. Ties could sour if there are changes to the political leadership in either country, said Chan Chong Beng, president of the Association of Small and Medium Enterprises in Singapore.

The association recently surveyed members to gauge their interest in Iskandar and found that several had concerns about crime and the potential for costs to rise rapidly because of the zone’s proximity to Singapore.

Many analysts and businessmen say there is a mutual interest in having Iskandar flourish.

“In the past, relations between Singapore and Malaysia were a bit chaotic,” said Mr. Tan of Kinderworld. “But I think the economic benefits will drive the politicians in the future.”
 

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Seemed like Marlborough is doing very well.

Elite Boarding Schools Spreading Through Asia

NUSAJAYA, MALAYSIA — When Robert Pick set eyes on a plot of land here a few years ago, all he could see were palm trees.

“The architect told me it was a wonderful site, but Nusajaya was undeveloped when I first came,” Mr. Pick, the master of Marlborough College Malaysia, said in an on-campus interview.

Nusajaya now is home to the first international campus of Marlborough College, the British boarding school that was founded in 1843 and counts the poet Siegfried Sassoon and the Duchess of Cambridge, the former Kate Middleton, as alumni. About 20 percent of its 350 students are Malaysians.

“We are not a franchise, but an expansion,” Mr. Pick said. “We see it as two schools together.”

On the 36-hectare Malaysian site, the equivalent of about 90 acres, Marlborough has extensive sporting facilities, including an indoor sports complex with retractable seating, an all-weather field hockey ground and a cricket field, which Mr. Pick’s house overlooks. In the classrooms, wooden desks are lined up two-by-two and children scramble around in checkered uniforms.

The satellite campus, which began operating in August, is part of Iskandar EduCity, a government-affiliated initiative to build an education hub in Johor State, which borders Singapore. It is also part of a wave of elite Western boarding schools establishing campuses in Asia.

Harrow International School Hong Kong opened in September under a franchise agreement with centuries-old Harrow School in England, whose alumni include the poet Lord Byron, former Prime Minister Winston Churchill and India’s first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru. Another graduate is Bo Guagua, son of the disgraced former Chinese Communist Party official Bo Xilai, and the first mainland Chinese citizen to attend the main Harrow campus in Middlesex.

Harrow also has branches in Beijing and Bangkok.

Meanwhile, Branksome Hall Asia opened in October in an education hub on Jeju Island, South Korea, as a sister institution of Branksome Hall, the 109-year-old private girls’ school in Toronto.

The schools are tapping into the demands of Asian parents who want their children to get a high-quality foreign-style education while staying close to home. There is also the desire to escape local school systems, which focus more on exams and rote learning.

Vivienne Fung, 40, a former lawyer and mother of two, said by telephone that she and her husband were put off by the traditional approach in many local Hong Kong schools, whose pupils tend to spend much of their after-school time doing homework or in private tutorial classes. Her children, aged 5 and 4, are among the first pupils of the newly opened Harrow.

“We are not into rote learning, we prefer whole learning,” Ms. Fung said. “There is a general perception that many of the more renowned schools in Hong Kong tend to focus more on academic results, and in doing so, accept only the academically brightest children and also expect them to take extra tuition outside school.”

Harrow, she said, takes “a much more holistic view than many other schools in Hong Kong, not just focusing on academic results but also putting a great deal of emphasis on developing each individual into a citizen of the world.”

Harrow’s Hong Kong campus, constructed on a 3.7-hectare site of a former military barracks, is its third to be built outside Britain. In its inaugural year, it admitted about 740 boys and girls, including 180 boarders. It expects to have 1,500 students once all the buildings are completed.

The Marlborough, Branksome and Harrow schools have had a helping hand from local governments in building their Asian branches.

The Hong Kong government allocated land to Harrow for a nominal fee, and also gave it an interest-free construction loan worth 273 million Hong Kong dollars, or $35 million, The South China Morning Post reported.

Marlborough Malaysia, like other institutions operating in EduCity, received preferential tax treatment from the government, though the developer declined to comment on financing and land usage.

A South Korean government agency gave Branksome Hall Asia a $170 million investment loan, which was raised from private investors and will be paid over 23 years. One of its goals is to keep more students at home.

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According to the South Korean government, the number of elementary and secondary school students who went abroad to study more than doubled in 10 years, to more than 16,000 in 2011 from nearly 8,000 in 2001.

Young children are often sent overseas accompanied by their mothers, while the fathers earn money back home.

“Korean parents go through enormous financial and emotional sacrifice for their children to get the best education,” Peter Kenny, director of Branksome Hall Asia, said in an interview in Hong Kong.

Branksome Hall Asia is the second Western boarding school opening on the scenic southern island. The other is the North London Collegiate School Jeju, a coeducational branch of a top British girls’ boarding school.

Branksome Hall Asia’s 9.5-hectare campus has an Olympic-size pool, ice-skating ring, golf academy, tennis courts and state-of-the-art information technology infrastructure. About 300 students, including 181 boarders, are enrolled in the first year.

The school, which offers the International Baccalaureate curriculum, expects full enrollment to reach 1,200 students in a few years, including about 450 boarders. It is coeducational from kindergarten to Grade 3, and girls-only from Grades 4 to 12.

Branksome Hall Asia also hopes to attract students from the region.

Tuition and boarding fees at the Marlborough, Branksome and Harrow Asian campuses can add up to tens of thousands of dollars per year. However, they can still be less costly than sending students to boarding schools in the West. All three schools offer some scholarships.

According to Mr. Kenny, annual tuition at Branksome Hall Asia ranges from 19 million to 29 million Korean won, or $17,500 to $25,000; boarding is 7 million Korean won. It adds up to about a third less than what students would pay at Branksome Hall in Toronto.

Annual fees at Marlborough College range from 56,760 to 126,000 Malaysian ringgit, or $18,600 to $41,400, depending on the age of the students and whether boarding is included. It can be anywhere from 20 percent to 40 percent cheaper than rates in England.

Harrow’s annual tuition ranges from 118,700 to 159,800 Hong Kong dollars, or $15,200 to $20,500. Residence fees can reach $13,110. Full-time boarders pay about two-thirds what they would in England.

The Asian branches are not exact copies of their parent schools.

“We can’t be like Harrow School in England. We can’t replicate it,” J. Mark Hensman, director of schools and chief operating officer of Harrow International Management Services, said by telephone. “The school in England is an all-boys school with more than 400 years of history, while in Asia, we have coed schools.”

The branch schools have made an effort to teach Asian languages and cultures to keep their students involved in the region.

About 30 percent of students at Harrow are Hong Kong passport holders. The school follows the English national curriculum while also offering Cantonese and Mandarin Chinese classes.

At Marlborough College Malaysia, which follows the basic curriculum of its parent school in England, students are taught Mandarin and Spanish as their first and second foreign languages.

Branksome Hall Asia teaches Korean language and culture to its students, 85 percent of whom are South Korean.

“In the U.K., they’re locked into French and German first before getting into languages of the future,” said Mr. Pick, the Marlborough principal. “If you can speak Mandarin and Spanish, you can operate in 70 percent of the developing world.”

Attracting boarders could pose a challenge in Asia. While Marlborough College operates almost entirely as a boarding school in Britain, only 46 students currently stay on the Malaysian campus on weekdays and weekends. About 150 students reside elsewhere in Malaysia while another 150 pupils commute daily from Singapore, the city-state about an hour’s drive away. The school expects that by 2018, the number of boarders will grow as the school reaches a full capacity of 1,350 students.

“Boarding is a rich experience because you learn how to live alongside others,” Mr. Pick said. “It prepares students much better for university.”

He attributed the small numbers to boarding being a somewhat “alien” concept to the region.

Yet, principals and school administrators can count on parents like Ms. Fung, who left home at the age of 11 to attend a boarding school in England and enjoyed her experience there.

She plans to send her children to board at their school later in the future. “I want my children to be independent and have a broad experience,” she said.

Yenni Kwok reported from Hong Kong
 

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After 2 years, I finally got to stay in my house in HH. :smile:

It was a mad dash with last minute contractors & deliveries works before the Xmas weekend. Two or three minor things left to do but I realise there is no absolute full stop point.

Just taking in the space was enjoyable. I swept the floors like they were never-ending. The high ceilings are quite an experience of space.

Ceiling fans that high feel cooler as well, as heat gets to rise properly. No need to switch on the ac, but I did anyway, for an hour just for the heck of it :smile:

In my first night here, I dreamt of wide open spaces with grass and trees in my house. one of the weirdest I have had.

I did not wake up to a Sunday of chirping birds nor foggy roads as have been reported in this forum by some..., as I slept-in till 9am. Instead I woke up to the humming sounds of construction works nearby as the Hills not fully completed yet but it does not bother me. Everyone wants to get their houses fast. No complaints though as I usually wake up at 7am in Sg...

Only a handful of neighbours for now but seeing the number of contractors working on the other houses under renovation lately, I am sure the rush is on before CNY. The completing condo will not help the situation. My rush is to enjoy Christmas here. And am so looking forward to it. Tomorrow go Jusco to buy a Christmas tree for a good session of family activity & bonding.

Thank you to everyone who have contributed in this forum. I hope to have had paid it forward and will continue to do so.

Merry Christmas!

Hi Contra
Hope you'll enjoy a wonderful Christmas in your new spacious home :smile:
 

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Legoland is so successful and popular that they have to limit the number of visitors. When the park is full, they will stop admiting visitors. Be sure to check their website before going. Here's the link http://www.legoland.com.my/Plan/Latest-News/

Thanks Investor! We reached there on Sunday afternoon and took us an hour to stand in line and get the annual passes. They had stopped selling day tickets at that time.

That said, it was worth the wait. The park is open until 8 PM during the holiday season. The weather becomes very pleasant in the evening. Crowds start getting thinner, so the max wait at the popular rides was 20 minutes or so. Also, it is a unique experience once it starts getting dark, with the miniland and the Christmas tree all lit up.

This was my first visit. I had read a few complaints earlier about dirty toilets and common areas. However, the park overall exceeded my expectations. Given the crowds, the place was very well managed. Toilets and common areas kept very well. My 15 year old daughter and 56 year old aunt both had a blast. Look forward to the next visit.
 

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Thanks Investor! We reached there on Sunday afternoon and took us an hour to stand in line and get the annual passes. They had stopped selling day tickets at that time.

That said, it was worth the wait. The park is open until 8 PM during the holiday season. The weather becomes very pleasant in the evening. Crowds start getting thinner, so the max wait at the popular rides was 20 minutes or so. Also, it is a unique experience once it starts getting dark, with the miniland and the Christmas tree all lit up.

This was my first visit. I had read a few complaints earlier about dirty toilets and common areas. However, the park overall exceeded my expectations. Given the crowds, the place was very well managed. Toilets and common areas kept very well. My 15 year old daughter and 56 year old aunt both had a blast. Look forward to the next visit.

Oh really got open till that late now? Then must plan to go again cos so far only used once the annual passes wic i bought very early under their pre opening sale via sistic
 

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Thanks Investor! We reached there on Sunday afternoon and took us an hour to stand in line and get the annual passes. They had stopped selling day tickets at that time.

That said, it was worth the wait. The park is open until 8 PM during the holiday season. The weather becomes very pleasant in the evening. Crowds start getting thinner, so the max wait at the popular rides was 20 minutes or so. Also, it is a unique experience once it starts getting dark, with the miniland and the Christmas tree all lit up.

This was my first visit. I had read a few complaints earlier about dirty toilets and common areas. However, the park overall exceeded my expectations. Given the crowds, the place was very well managed. Toilets and common areas kept very well. My 15 year old daughter and 56 year old aunt both had a blast. Look forward to the next visit.

Oh really got open till that late now? Then must plan to go again cos so far only used once the annual passes wic i bought very early under their pre opening sale via sistic
 

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Merry Christmas n A happy New year to you all !

Now for me still waiting for the banker to give me the result on my bank loan amount. Hope it goes well if not have to wait liao...Huat Ah!

Your wait is worth your while bro. U will not regret it. All d best to u :smile:
 

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Dear Wuqi - Thanks for showering us with info n care. I wish u n ur family Merry Christmas n Happy New Year. Cheers.


Thank you, just doing what i can as a fellow human being, lots of kind bros/sisters here sharing things too.
Wishing you a prosperous and happy Xmas and Happy New Year. :smile:
 

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All for RM1100, you shd be!
Can share with us your optician?
Thanks

Sure, its in the row opposite the Eurorich (Platinum Hotel) where Trendy Lighting used to be.
Saw row as Ban Huat aircon, right at the end, there is an optician. Place is a bit run down but
prices are good and quality is good as well.
 

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Hi bro Wuqi,
Thanks for your lobang . Yesterday , we went to change our car tyre at the Michelin shop in Bukit Indah, the one you recommended . they charged rm240 ( s$97), is cheaper than a shop in Singapore which charge s$121 . We saved s$ 24 per tyre . Changed 2 tyres and saved s$48 . Is really great saving . We treated ourselves to a nice movie that only cost rm 38 for 2 adults and 2 children for citi credit card holder in Aeon Bukit Indah , TGV cinema. The cinema is much spacious than Singapore one . Nice . We will go for movie more often as this is a way to get my son to go Malaysia .

Glad you guys liked it. Do remember to rotate tyres at 10k interval. They also have nitro gas for the tyres as standard and normally without asking if you change your tyres there. They do have 3D movies there as well. Great way to bring your kids here more.
 

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Being here for a while has ironically made me go back to my roots more as they do teach mandarin at a higher level than we typically go through in SG.

While going through these with my son, learning more and more together with him.

Often forgotten gems in our daily lives where learning is often lopsided. If you have to learn others culture, learn it with context and not take everything in wholesale as if just only that culture is so good. So many people only concentrate on equipping their kids academically, sports or music that they forget the moral aspects.

Their kids are often trained rather than educated and they wonder why at the first sign of difficulty their kids give up or when their kids throw coffee at their mothers and take a knife to their father:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DklI5N93epc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaAwhcTb6zQ

Don't just learn something just because its in your culture either, learn it when it makes sense and make sure we impart the right values to our kids. Too many people equip their kids with academic skills but basically leave them clueless when it comes to life, social interaction and especially gratitude.
 
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wow bro wuqi, you are on a sudden roll of info.... can we have a Nusajaya ammenities thread and post these there for easy reference? Things are changing so fast even I feel like a newbie

feel like voting you as mayor in next GE :smile:

Just sharing as some bros were pinging for information on next step for investments. Sure, you can create one. Nah, i am just a nobody and happy to remain as that. Just happy to help in any way i can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaAwhcTb6zQ
 

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Hello everybody, Merry Christmas!
Making my first posting here. Discovered this forum by chance. Very grateful to all folks here who have spent so much time sharing info.
Anyway thanks a million to all who are selfless in sharing, esp wuqi256 who started this forum. Yesterday went in by 1st link, visited Austin, Molek, Senibong cove, Straits View, HH...
Can't decide to get subsale at other precints at HH or book Wetlands...any advice is welcome!

Glad you went to have a look, best to always check out and have a look at things yourself. I would recommend spending a bit more time to check out for yourself in the 2nd link area and mainly landed but thats just me.

Someone said this when i was doing NS. I still remember - If you see someone (army pioneer) clearing a mine/blind and telling you not to touch certain red flagged areas, that pioneer probably has already done his homework and encountered his fair shares of "explosive" situations.

He may not have time/inclination to explain but the flags are there for a reason (not Christmas decorations). Of course, the pioneer may be wrong too. :wink:
 
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