Liar = 145 Votes Strategy - A lesson in running a low profile campaign

[scroobal]

By nature he is obstinate and for all the wrong reasons. I seldom argue with him on issues that he raised previously. All his analysis went out of the window when results saw an increase of 145 seats. Imagine if margin had increased by 145 seats. I am sure he would blame on the Martians.

Politics is always a series of compromise with the base value guarded as best as possible. He does not understand that. He is very unusual in the sense that he is politically knowledgeable and competent but goes haywire in a bigway on the issues that is contrary to public opinion.

Clearly, according to GMS, WP has gone back to 2006, the year he left? In other words, after GMS left WP, WP went on a downward spiral. WP is not the same without GMS. NSP is not the same without GMS. The world is not the same without GMS. Did you realise GMS CAN'T stop talking/referring/alluding to himself?

Clearly, GMS is the centre of universe.

Clearly, Greece would not have its current crisis if GMS were born a Greek.

Clearly, we need to clone more GMS to make this world a better place.

 

[scroobal]

I suspect its the great unknown. And the PAP are not going to change by giving up on something that they consider as their own leverage. I agree, they are unlikely to change.

It doesn't guarantee PAP will win more votes by giving equal treatment but it does encourage more people to vote oppositions without worrying about the inconvenience of having a non-PAP MP.

My guess is PAP will unlikely change their approach in these sense. It a lose-lose proposition to them.

 

[deepblue0911]

He is very unusual in the sense that he is politically knowledgeable and competent but goes haywire in a bigway on the issues that is contrary to public opinion.

He may know but his analysis and comments often betray his lack of understanding. His interpretation of data is quite atrocious, most of the time reading into things which aren't there. Wonder if he's paranoid or schizophrenic.....

 

[jixiaolan]

Back in GE 2006, WP presented a stable of largely young brilliant professionals, something not seen for a long long time in our local opposition scene. Gone were the promising Lian Chin Way, articulate young lawyer Chia Ti Lik, "internet minister" Goh Meng Seng, high flyer Tan Wui Hua etc.

If you look at the name list, the entire AMK and East Coast team is gone except for Glenda Han, Aljunied A team only left with Sylvia and Rahizan. Old warrior Eric Tan is gone, as for Poh Lee Guan...well, your guess is as good as mine. Back then, the only little scandal is with Gomez messing up with the minority ethnic form. No sex scandal, no plagiarism, no leakage, no internal conflict, only one single voice with LTK holding a tight helm.

I have no doubt that WP has the ability to recruit more future candidates and maybe winning a few more seats in the process but clearly the key lies in retention of talent. Without keeping and retaining the core of the talent pool, no organisation can grow big and remains relevant.

Clearly, according to GMS, WP has gone back to 2006, the year he left WP? In other words, after GMS left WP, WP went on a downward spiral. WP is not the same without GMS. NSP is not the same without GMS. The world is not the same without GMS. Did you realise GMS CAN'T stop talking/referring/alluding to himself?

Clearly, GMS is the centre of universe.

Clearly, Greece would not have its current crisis if GMS were born a Greek.

Clearly, we need to clone more GMS to make this world a better place.

 

[kukubird58]

hahaha....as expected, my idols, the cockeral trying to put down the canon god.....
both clamouring for the adulation they each thought they deserved.......
oops...i am a sour grape........lol.

 

[kukubird58]

scoobal the insider know everything.... but does he know the Ng ENg Hen has to be co-opted... and then they announced explicitly that gan will take charge of GE2016.... a slap on Ng ENg Hen face....

hahaha...that is why he is my idol....he is teflon and kelvar coated......one of the invincibles in sbf......he can get away with any bullshits......lol.

 

[Huat-Ah]

Scroobal,

It is the general sentiments which is working against PAP and yes, PAP is indeed in trouble. But WP is facing a small problem as well, beside its internal problems. If you look at the spoilt votes plus absentees, more than 7% there. This indicates part of the middle ground is not convinced by WP but they won't want to vote PAP either.

So I think Locke and you may have been to quick to conclude that WP is now almighty and will go into 3 corner fight anyhow.

This BE result has set WP back to GE2006 level.


Goh Meng Seng

Nope. You are WRONG. Those 1200 voters where have they gone to ? We don't know. Unless you are a god.

Seriously, that day itself was raining HEAVILY. And of course, despite all the NEGATIVE Development towards Workers Party, they still manage to garner over 62% Win.

IMHO it is very good results. At least much better than yours at Tampinese GRC That time

 

[aurvandil]

This is way to modest an assessment considering who is TCH's father.

It was during his watch and TCH worked with him when GCT was Min of Defence. But Old Man was still SG of PAP and the family link to old man's wife cannot be discounted. TCH was always highly regarded as a mature and measured imdividual with good EQ. In 2011, he became a ranking power broker and he began to wield the stick alot more.

My sense is that he is out of the race for PM and there is no image issue to look after.

 

[scroobal]

I agree. It does seem to be an issue.

I gather that 2006 lot were much younger and therefore keen to do exciting things more often on a variety of front. I wonder if accommodating these needs have been addressed if if this was one of the issues.

Back in GE 2006, WP presented a stable of largely young brilliant professionals, something not seen for a long long time in our local opposition scene. Gone were the promising Lian Chin Way, articulate young lawyer Chia Ti Lik, "internet minister" Goh Meng Seng, high flyer Tan Wui Hua etc.

I have no doubt that WP has the ability to recruit more future candidates and maybe winning a few more seats in the process but clearly the key lies in retention of talent. Without keeping and retaining the core of the talent pool, no organisation can grow big and remains relevant.

 

[scroobal]

i did mention the family link.

This is way to modest an assessment considering who is TCH's father.

 

[kukubird58]

hahaha.....papee then kuku....waste time on campaign strategy..........
they were not aware that the RO (a PA man) was very influential.......he could reject png's nomination papers.....
if papee had consulted the cockeral beforehand.....they would have won HG on a walk-over....a tko.....lol.

 

[methink]

TCH was always highly regarded as a mature and measured imdividual with good EQ. In 2011, he became a ranking power broker and he began to wield the stick alot more.

My sense is that he is out of the race for PM and there is no image issue to look after.

TCH has good EQ? Haha... then he should know better than to keep touching on Png's integrity. Lowering himself to the same level as his past masters gutter politics.

Sinkies are now very aware of what the pappies are up to. Issues must be the order of the day. Not character assassination.

 

[kukubird58]

hahaha.....have to work for my idol to bump his thread....
those who really have access to sources and inside info....will not blow his trumpet....in order not to compromise his sources......even though they are anonymous...
even kukubird understand this.....so if someone always tell the whole world he has inside information.....u can regard the fellow as empty vessel.......the exception is the cockeral.......lol.

 

[zhihau]

they were not aware that the RO (a PA man) was very influential.......he could reject png's nomination papers.....

now that's something new, RO could reject the nomination papers due to errors. if there are no errors, how does the RO reject the nomination?

 

[geylangchickenloyangduck]

nah beh....sorry to say but Kee Chiu is abit to kiddish looking. TJS is a better bet.

someone must come between LHL & the nxt (TJS or someone younger) I reckon.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

nah beh....sorry to say but Kee Chiu is abit to kiddish looking.

Have to agree that Kee Chiu looks and behaves damn 'geena'.....
Watch him on TV giving out medals last night.......wears a cheapo casio watch and hairstyle without sideburns......seriously doubt the demeanor is put on or he is one damn good actor. How did he ever carried his 2 stars in SAF uniform? Must have looked like a NCC student

 

[zhihau]

nah beh....sorry to say but Kee Chiu is abit to kiddish looking. TJS is a better bet.

someone must come between LHL & the nxt (TJS or someone younger) I reckon.

huh? TJS??? do you mean TCJ instead?

 

[geylangchickenloyangduck]

huh? TJS??? do you mean TCJ instead?

nah beh...yah TCJ...typo....

 

[aurvandil]

They only have Ng, no one else. They have to bring in new blood or let the current PM carry on longer than expected.

It is cheeky of you to suggest that he could have a chance. His uncle's side of family has bundles of cash which they want to access to. They are however vassal rather than royalty. Alex Au wrote a nice piece on the 4 dwarfs who would be king.

http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2...g-loss-paps-recruitment-suffers-another-blow/

Keechiu Chan has been annointed and he appears to be on track. Given his family background, I continue to suspect that there is a hidden bloodline. The family is very large and it is altogether possible that he is progeny of one of the more obscure members. In his defense that he was not related, a lot was said about his poor (pretty?) mother. There was however nothing said about his father. Do you have anything to share about the father of Keechiu Chan?

 

[scroobal]

Keechiu no relations whatsoever.

Alex is completely off on this. All 4 are 2011 candidates. Sucession plan would have identified and began grooming in cabinet positions well before 2006. Khaw too old. Viv and Shanmugam out for various reasons, left Hng Kiang and Ng. Old man particularly mentioned Ng and all PM must hold Defence. Ng has held Education, Manpower and Defence not some minor thing like MCYS.

Alex has an excellent analytical mind when it comes to values, logic and reason. Pure politics is out. For this, you need access.

It is cheeky of you to suggest that he could have a chance. His uncle's side of family has bundles of cash which they want to access to. They are however vassal rather than royalty. Alex Au wrote a nice piece on the 4 dwarfs who would be king.

http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2...g-loss-paps-recruitment-suffers-another-blow/

Keechiu Chan has been annointed and he appears to be on track. Given his family background, I continue to suspect that there is a hidden bloodline. The family is very large and it is altogether possible that he is progeny of one of the more obscure members. In his defense that he was not related, a lot was said about his poor (pretty?) mother. There was however nothing said about his father. Do you have anything to share about the father of Keechiu Chan?