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Serious Kiev vs Moscow! Showdown! (2022)
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in a three-cornered fight, wagner will destroy the plant to make Russia and Ukraine blame each other.
Ukraine Bean play showhand
This is disappointing. Its taking putin too long to annihilate Ukraine.
There will be a new economic bloc which stretches ftom russia to india. ?
There will be a new economic bloc which stretches ftom russia to india. ?
Latest: Wagner boss still in Russia. Wagner now resumed recruitment from other mercenaries.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...e-following-failed-mutiny-says-belarus-leader
Over private 30 warlords representing Russia in Ukraine. Too many cooks spoil the soup.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...e-following-failed-mutiny-says-belarus-leader
Over private 30 warlords representing Russia in Ukraine. Too many cooks spoil the soup.
It had been confirmed that Prigozhin had met President Putin even after Prigozhin's mutinous attempt. Most would wonder what they had discussed about, for 3 long hours. It is not that difficult to see & analyze what happened.
President Putin is NOT the demon Stalin, who would NEVER trust anyone, nor does President Putin wish to repeat the mistakes made by brutal Stalin. Times had changed, & he would had realized mistakes made by Stalin, but only sought to correct them. His wish is nationalistic, being a former brainwashed KGB agent, but his notions of elevation of the Russian civilization is tainted by pride & ego, as well as the pressures of such that made him becoming a boderline case of suffering from Schizophrenia, base upon public evidences of his behavior.
The Billionaire Prigozhin with his huge private army is another case.
He had shown public behaviors that mimics modern history of dictators - Stalin & Mao, whom have NO care or concern about Human lives but their own ego, pride & power & presumed that they were above Humanity, even though are only flawed mortals like everyone else. The previous USSR States leaders, whom were growing adults once under Stalin & suffered under USSR tyranny, were wise to realize such facts early & thus their precautions against such enemies, whom had shown NO mercy to anyone, but only the senseless CONTINUATION of war & shedding of combatants & innocents' blood, for profit & pure inhumanity...
The late leader Baghdadi of ISIS, is in the same mould or Prigozhin. At least Baghdadi promised his mentally challenged followers of 72 virgins when they perished. Progozhin promised NOTHING, but an end of their wasted precious lives.
May Humanity beware of such animals. Fire is a good servant but a bad master, as the gulf nations whom funded ISIS, finally found out when ISIS became strong & wanted to rule over them, misusing a religion that was meant for peace & evolution but sadly MISINTERPRETATED & taken out of context.
May Humanity, RUS or the WEST, make not the such same mistakes again. There is a crude racist saying about races but do forgive me if the insignificant nobody me twist it for better under standing - Should one see a snake & Prigozhin together, which would one should be destroyed?
The answer is to destroy Prigozhin. One may only suffer from snake bites if bitten by the snake, & there are cures & antidotes from snake bites, but if the animal Prigozhin is not destroyed, he will cause much, much more sufferings to Humankind than a mere snake can ever could.... Make NO mistakes, Prigozhin is NOT a far sighted, hardworking & gifted ruler as Caesar, or a war weary Spartacus....
President Putin is NOT the demon Stalin, who would NEVER trust anyone, nor does President Putin wish to repeat the mistakes made by brutal Stalin. Times had changed, & he would had realized mistakes made by Stalin, but only sought to correct them. His wish is nationalistic, being a former brainwashed KGB agent, but his notions of elevation of the Russian civilization is tainted by pride & ego, as well as the pressures of such that made him becoming a boderline case of suffering from Schizophrenia, base upon public evidences of his behavior.
The Billionaire Prigozhin with his huge private army is another case.
He had shown public behaviors that mimics modern history of dictators - Stalin & Mao, whom have NO care or concern about Human lives but their own ego, pride & power & presumed that they were above Humanity, even though are only flawed mortals like everyone else. The previous USSR States leaders, whom were growing adults once under Stalin & suffered under USSR tyranny, were wise to realize such facts early & thus their precautions against such enemies, whom had shown NO mercy to anyone, but only the senseless CONTINUATION of war & shedding of combatants & innocents' blood, for profit & pure inhumanity...
The late leader Baghdadi of ISIS, is in the same mould or Prigozhin. At least Baghdadi promised his mentally challenged followers of 72 virgins when they perished. Progozhin promised NOTHING, but an end of their wasted precious lives.
May Humanity beware of such animals. Fire is a good servant but a bad master, as the gulf nations whom funded ISIS, finally found out when ISIS became strong & wanted to rule over them, misusing a religion that was meant for peace & evolution but sadly MISINTERPRETATED & taken out of context.
May Humanity, RUS or the WEST, make not the such same mistakes again. There is a crude racist saying about races but do forgive me if the insignificant nobody me twist it for better under standing - Should one see a snake & Prigozhin together, which would one should be destroyed?
The answer is to destroy Prigozhin. One may only suffer from snake bites if bitten by the snake, & there are cures & antidotes from snake bites, but if the animal Prigozhin is not destroyed, he will cause much, much more sufferings to Humankind than a mere snake can ever could.... Make NO mistakes, Prigozhin is NOT a far sighted, hardworking & gifted ruler as Caesar, or a war weary Spartacus....
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It was claimed that some of Prigozhin's 27,000 brutal mercenaries had returned to their camps in invaded lands of UKR. However, such is not verified. Reality is that those troops will not accept orders from RUS's Defense ministry & neither will regular RUS army commanders accept those brutes within their own disciplined troops, & worse, the element of trust is lost thru the mercenaries readiness to turn traitor, between those 2 groups.
So where is Prigozhin's well armed 27,000 barbaric beasts now?
It is not difficult to find out. No matter how well armed they are, they still need PROVISIONS - water, food, etc DAILY. They may had raided such provisions during their sojourn in Rostov, but their trucks can only carry so much, & estimated food resource that will last less than 2 weeks. For water, they may be near river sources, but food is another issue.
The average Human needs about 600gms per meal, but a soldier will require double - 1200gms per meal due to the hard physical work they perform - in war & exercise routines to keep fit while resting. 3 meals a day = 3,600gms per day per soldier. For 27,000 soldiers= 97,200,000gms or 97,200Kg or 97 tons. That's a lot of tonnes per day.
Thus they are either starving or are being supplied by someone else. Prigozhin is claimed to be a billionaire & could be using his own funds to keep his savages alive, but still, those animals cannot eat rouble notes. Thus, the clue to finding & tracing the whereabouts of those thugs lays in finding out WHO are the suppliers capable of providing 97 tonnes of food daily to such creatures.
So where is Prigozhin's well armed 27,000 barbaric beasts now?
It is not difficult to find out. No matter how well armed they are, they still need PROVISIONS - water, food, etc DAILY. They may had raided such provisions during their sojourn in Rostov, but their trucks can only carry so much, & estimated food resource that will last less than 2 weeks. For water, they may be near river sources, but food is another issue.
The average Human needs about 600gms per meal, but a soldier will require double - 1200gms per meal due to the hard physical work they perform - in war & exercise routines to keep fit while resting. 3 meals a day = 3,600gms per day per soldier. For 27,000 soldiers= 97,200,000gms or 97,200Kg or 97 tons. That's a lot of tonnes per day.
Thus they are either starving or are being supplied by someone else. Prigozhin is claimed to be a billionaire & could be using his own funds to keep his savages alive, but still, those animals cannot eat rouble notes. Thus, the clue to finding & tracing the whereabouts of those thugs lays in finding out WHO are the suppliers capable of providing 97 tonnes of food daily to such creatures.
It was reported that RUS govt had issued WARNINGS of WW3 YET AGAIN, this time by former Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev & even hinted by RUS FM Lavrov. Medvedev was once a Worldwide respected RUS leader with positive engagement views, but sadly, once PrezPutin ruled, Medvedev views turned a drastic 180 degrees perspective. Had he been brainwashed & mentally twisted by well known ex-KGB brutal methods?
Regardless if such had happened or not, his threatening views should NOT instill fear into Humankind. Such threats had LONG been used in history of Humankind's civilization. The prelude to WW2 was such threats by the demon Hitler, that saw UK PM NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN attempts to appease Hitler & to his dismay watching Hitler growing bolder & bolder with his conquests & horrific slaughters of innocent lives in Europe especially in Poland, whom cried for Humanity's support but sadly, none bothered, each living in fear instead, & emboldened OTHER warlords in the World to SEIZE lands & brutalize Humankind.
In the end, Humanity faced up to realities, so be it if it takes a frightening World War to stop the senseless slaughters of innocents Worldwide, with COURAGEOUS fellow Humans Worldwide UNITED, lining up & joining to fight total destruction, to sacrifice their own lives so that their loved ones & others may live...may such be NEVER forgotten...
Today, with RUS threats of WW3, may Humankind live with realities. After WW2 & development of nukes, Humankind had took precautions - nuke drills, bunkers, food supplies, etc, etc. WE, Humanity, WILL NEVER EVER be frightened again, to live on knees for ourselves & more importantly, our loved ones. Some of us will die, including me, fighting against tyranny, but MANY MORE others loved ones will live...
The reality of foolish Medvedev & the RUS leadership is that IT IS ONLY RUS GOVT that is living in fear of WW3. There is an American military saying - the aim of war is NOT to sacrifice oneself, but to MAKE the enemy sacrifice his life for his country or convoluted & harmful ideologies. Should RUS declares WW3, the RUS govt WILL BE ALONE, to face the wrath from 7 BILLION Humankind.
RUS presume China is its ally. RUS govt are fools. The mentality of Asians is that they are INSCRUTABLE. They will be polite, smile & SEEM to agree with everything, but within that inscrutable mind lays strategies on how one can benefit from crisis - the vast wheat lands & fossil fuels of RUS are within the consideration of hungry China seeking self sufficiency & supremacy... so too its BRICs members....
There is another crude American saying - it aint over till the fat lady sings. She had ALREADY sung 470 days ago when the RUS govt, living in delusions, & still is living in delusions today against 7 billion courageous Humankind, failed to capture UKR back then...
Regardless if such had happened or not, his threatening views should NOT instill fear into Humankind. Such threats had LONG been used in history of Humankind's civilization. The prelude to WW2 was such threats by the demon Hitler, that saw UK PM NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN attempts to appease Hitler & to his dismay watching Hitler growing bolder & bolder with his conquests & horrific slaughters of innocent lives in Europe especially in Poland, whom cried for Humanity's support but sadly, none bothered, each living in fear instead, & emboldened OTHER warlords in the World to SEIZE lands & brutalize Humankind.
In the end, Humanity faced up to realities, so be it if it takes a frightening World War to stop the senseless slaughters of innocents Worldwide, with COURAGEOUS fellow Humans Worldwide UNITED, lining up & joining to fight total destruction, to sacrifice their own lives so that their loved ones & others may live...may such be NEVER forgotten...
Today, with RUS threats of WW3, may Humankind live with realities. After WW2 & development of nukes, Humankind had took precautions - nuke drills, bunkers, food supplies, etc, etc. WE, Humanity, WILL NEVER EVER be frightened again, to live on knees for ourselves & more importantly, our loved ones. Some of us will die, including me, fighting against tyranny, but MANY MORE others loved ones will live...
The reality of foolish Medvedev & the RUS leadership is that IT IS ONLY RUS GOVT that is living in fear of WW3. There is an American military saying - the aim of war is NOT to sacrifice oneself, but to MAKE the enemy sacrifice his life for his country or convoluted & harmful ideologies. Should RUS declares WW3, the RUS govt WILL BE ALONE, to face the wrath from 7 BILLION Humankind.
RUS presume China is its ally. RUS govt are fools. The mentality of Asians is that they are INSCRUTABLE. They will be polite, smile & SEEM to agree with everything, but within that inscrutable mind lays strategies on how one can benefit from crisis - the vast wheat lands & fossil fuels of RUS are within the consideration of hungry China seeking self sufficiency & supremacy... so too its BRICs members....
There is another crude American saying - it aint over till the fat lady sings. She had ALREADY sung 470 days ago when the RUS govt, living in delusions, & still is living in delusions today against 7 billion courageous Humankind, failed to capture UKR back then...
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KYIV, July 17 (Reuters) - Three Ukrainian media outlets quoted unnamed sources as saying Ukraine's domestic security agency and navy were behind Monday's incident on the Crimean Bridge, and that they had used sea-borne drones to attack it.
Ukraine's government did not comment on the incident and the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the navy declined to say whether they were involved, although some Ukrainian officials portrayed the bridge as a legitimate military target.
Ukrainian public broadcaster Suspilne, online publication Ukrainska Pravda and The New Voice of Ukraine media outlet cited one or more sources saying the navy and the SBU were behind the incident, in which Russia said two people were killed.
All three media outlets quoted at least one source as saying sea-borne drones had been deployed against the bridge.
Suspilne quoted a navy spokesman as saying he had no such information and urging the broadcaster to wait for official announcements. A Ukrainian military spokesperson suggested the attack could have bene a provocation staged by Russia.
In comments to the RBC Ukraine media outlet, an SBU spokesperson quoted the security agency's chief, Vasyl Malyuk, as having said in previous interviews that it was justified in war to "cut off the enemy's logistical routes" and that the bridge was used as a Russian military supply route.
The SBU posted a message on the Telegram messaging app showing a picture of an explosion on the bridge last October and recast a Ukrainian folk song to read: "Nightingale, my dear brother, the bridge 'has gone to sleep' again."
Presidential political adviser Mykhailo Podolyak welcomed news of the incident, without saying how it happened.
"Any illegal structures used to deliver Russian instruments of mass murder are necessarily short-lived... regardless of the reasons for the destruction," he wrote on Twitter.
Reporting by Anna Pruchnicka and Kyiv newsroom, Editing by Timothy Heritage
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ine-behind-crimea-bridge-incident-2023-07-17/
Ukraine's government did not comment on the incident and the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the navy declined to say whether they were involved, although some Ukrainian officials portrayed the bridge as a legitimate military target.
Ukrainian public broadcaster Suspilne, online publication Ukrainska Pravda and The New Voice of Ukraine media outlet cited one or more sources saying the navy and the SBU were behind the incident, in which Russia said two people were killed.
All three media outlets quoted at least one source as saying sea-borne drones had been deployed against the bridge.
Suspilne quoted a navy spokesman as saying he had no such information and urging the broadcaster to wait for official announcements. A Ukrainian military spokesperson suggested the attack could have bene a provocation staged by Russia.
In comments to the RBC Ukraine media outlet, an SBU spokesperson quoted the security agency's chief, Vasyl Malyuk, as having said in previous interviews that it was justified in war to "cut off the enemy's logistical routes" and that the bridge was used as a Russian military supply route.
The SBU posted a message on the Telegram messaging app showing a picture of an explosion on the bridge last October and recast a Ukrainian folk song to read: "Nightingale, my dear brother, the bridge 'has gone to sleep' again."
Presidential political adviser Mykhailo Podolyak welcomed news of the incident, without saying how it happened.
"Any illegal structures used to deliver Russian instruments of mass murder are necessarily short-lived... regardless of the reasons for the destruction," he wrote on Twitter.
Reporting by Anna Pruchnicka and Kyiv newsroom, Editing by Timothy Heritage
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ine-behind-crimea-bridge-incident-2023-07-17/
Maybe the war is ending or Ukraine is winning
wheat prices gained 15% this week after Russia destroyed 60,000 tonnes of Ukraine wheat.
It had been reported that the demented RUS govt had thrown away the grain deal & even dare challenge any ships that sail in Black Sea as hostiles & to be sunk at will, & would prefer 7 Billion Humans starve to death so that it can regain its foolish pride to subjugate & BULLY a sovereign nation - UKR.
Being demented, the RUS govt are incapable of REALITIES. Humanity WILL NOT starve, as there are ALTERNATIVES to wheat Worldwide. Even if there is no wheat, there is still rice & other commodities that can be turned into flour, for bread, noodles, etc. Moronic suppliers whom attempt to raise the price of wheat will only realize bankruptcy, when there will be no more buyers of RUS wheat, & in turn lead to FURTHER demise of the RUS economy.
As for the bullied UKR, they have BILLIONS in cash & kind from 7 BILLION Humankind to support them, even for rebuilding after this atrocious invasion from RUS. They only need to INSTEAD store it at Odessa ports for Humanity, spread it out thru other NATO neighbors to sell them or keep it for themselves so that NO UKR citizen will starve, unlike pathetic RUS where such food resource are rather sold to boost its failed economy & war machines than to help its citizens from starvation, opportunities in life & more.
By the RUS govt SAVAGE attempt to starve Humankind & destroy any ships that sail in the Black Sea, which it DOES NOT EVEN OWN, it proves that they are are pirate nation, & Humankind NEED not treat RUS with any hopes of reconciliation or sense. They are insane, pure barbaric animals whom understands Human civilized lingo not. They only understand the lingo of VIOLENCE.
Thus, as the RUS govt had shown NO mercy to Humankind, neither shall Humanity show any mercy to them in return. The gloves, sadly are off by the RUS govt foolish barbaric attitude. We Humanity, will RECIPROCATE, in the only lingo that they understand, rather than to live on knees to the insane & bullies
SEVASTOPOL is a RUS naval base in RUS brutally occupied Crimea. It is where the RUS Black Sea Fleet gets its supplies of fuel, armaments, etc, etc.
ANNIHILATE that Naval base, as well as any RUS vessel on or under the Black Sea, or any other RUS naval port within the Black Sea, it will end the RUS hostile piracy on one of OUR Humanity's waters.
The RUS govt had shown no mercy to destroy the ports of Odessa, which was meant to supplied grain to starving nations, thru the use of missiles. May the moronic govt knows, 7 Billion Humankind can do better with Technology. The Rubicon is about to be crossed....
Being demented, the RUS govt are incapable of REALITIES. Humanity WILL NOT starve, as there are ALTERNATIVES to wheat Worldwide. Even if there is no wheat, there is still rice & other commodities that can be turned into flour, for bread, noodles, etc. Moronic suppliers whom attempt to raise the price of wheat will only realize bankruptcy, when there will be no more buyers of RUS wheat, & in turn lead to FURTHER demise of the RUS economy.
As for the bullied UKR, they have BILLIONS in cash & kind from 7 BILLION Humankind to support them, even for rebuilding after this atrocious invasion from RUS. They only need to INSTEAD store it at Odessa ports for Humanity, spread it out thru other NATO neighbors to sell them or keep it for themselves so that NO UKR citizen will starve, unlike pathetic RUS where such food resource are rather sold to boost its failed economy & war machines than to help its citizens from starvation, opportunities in life & more.
By the RUS govt SAVAGE attempt to starve Humankind & destroy any ships that sail in the Black Sea, which it DOES NOT EVEN OWN, it proves that they are are pirate nation, & Humankind NEED not treat RUS with any hopes of reconciliation or sense. They are insane, pure barbaric animals whom understands Human civilized lingo not. They only understand the lingo of VIOLENCE.
Thus, as the RUS govt had shown NO mercy to Humankind, neither shall Humanity show any mercy to them in return. The gloves, sadly are off by the RUS govt foolish barbaric attitude. We Humanity, will RECIPROCATE, in the only lingo that they understand, rather than to live on knees to the insane & bullies
SEVASTOPOL is a RUS naval base in RUS brutally occupied Crimea. It is where the RUS Black Sea Fleet gets its supplies of fuel, armaments, etc, etc.
ANNIHILATE that Naval base, as well as any RUS vessel on or under the Black Sea, or any other RUS naval port within the Black Sea, it will end the RUS hostile piracy on one of OUR Humanity's waters.
The RUS govt had shown no mercy to destroy the ports of Odessa, which was meant to supplied grain to starving nations, thru the use of missiles. May the moronic govt knows, 7 Billion Humankind can do better with Technology. The Rubicon is about to be crossed....
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