• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

JB/SG Crimewatch

Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Police can detain you in Johor now without a trial :eek:

M'sia passes amended preventive detention law
Published October 04, 2013
By S Jayasankaran In Kuala Lumpur

MALAYSIA'S Lower House of Parliament passed the controversial Prevention of Crime (Amendment and Extension) Bill 2013 in the wee hours of yesterday morning, sparking outrage among human right advocates and signalling a more hardline approach to crime-fighting.

The law allows suspects to be detained without trial for two years at a time.

The move is something of an embarrassment to Prime Minister Najib Razak. In September 2011, he had abolished the Internal Security Act (ISA) and the Emergency Ordinance, and promised to make Malaysia a "functional and inclusive democracy, where peace and public order are safeguarded in line with the supremacy of the Constitution, the rule of law and respect for basic human rights".

Opposition leaders bitterly attacked the amendment while Human Rights Watch called it "a huge step backwards". The organisation said Mr Najib's decision to "ram the law through Parliament" could backfire on the nation's global reputation.

But the law could be popular among ordinary Malaysians weary of increasing crime rates that have been linked by the police to the 2011 freeing of hardcore criminals detained under preventive crime laws.

Former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, who had opposed Mr Najib's 2011 decision, defended the premier yesterday.

"Yes, he promised to abolish preventive detention laws, but he never expected all these crimes," Dr Mahathir told reporters. "You didn't expect it either. I didn't expect it as well, Just look at the crimes that are happening now. Even walking around is not safe."

Home Minister Zahis Hamidi repeatedly stressed that the law would not be abused nor used against politicians. Mr Zahid himself had been detained under the ISA following the ouster of former deputy premier Anwar Ibrahim.

The government also argued that proper safeguards - such as an advisory board that will conduct an inquiry into each case before handing out the detention order - would be in place.

The debate on the bill went on from 11.30am on Tuesday until 12.50am on Thursday with the Parliament clock being stopped in order for it to be voted on.

In total, six opposition members tabled 10 proposed changes to the bill, attempting to remove elements of detention without trial and allow for judicial review under the amendment bill but all were rejected by the House.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/pre...ses-amended-preventive-detention-law-20131004
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Police can detain you in Johor now without a trial :eek:

M'sia passes amended preventive detention law
Published October 04, 2013
By S Jayasankaran In Kuala Lumpur

MALAYSIA'S Lower House of Parliament passed the controversial Prevention of Crime (Amendment and Extension) Bill 2013 in the wee hours of yesterday morning, sparking outrage among human right advocates and signalling a more hardline approach to crime-fighting.

The law allows suspects to be detained without trial for two years at a time.

The move is something of an embarrassment to Prime Minister Najib Razak. In September 2011, he had abolished the Internal Security Act (ISA) and the Emergency Ordinance, and promised to make Malaysia a "functional and inclusive democracy, where peace and public order are safeguarded in line with the supremacy of the Constitution, the rule of law and respect for basic human rights".

Opposition leaders bitterly attacked the amendment while Human Rights Watch called it "a huge step backwards". The organisation said Mr Najib's decision to "ram the law through Parliament" could backfire on the nation's global reputation.

But the law could be popular among ordinary Malaysians weary of increasing crime rates that have been linked by the police to the 2011 freeing of hardcore criminals detained under preventive crime laws.

Former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, who had opposed Mr Najib's 2011 decision, defended the premier yesterday.

"Yes, he promised to abolish preventive detention laws, but he never expected all these crimes," Dr Mahathir told reporters. "You didn't expect it either. I didn't expect it as well, Just look at the crimes that are happening now. Even walking around is not safe."

Home Minister Zahis Hamidi repeatedly stressed that the law would not be abused nor used against politicians. Mr Zahid himself had been detained under the ISA following the ouster of former deputy premier Anwar Ibrahim.

The government also argued that proper safeguards - such as an advisory board that will conduct an inquiry into each case before handing out the detention order - would be in place.

The debate on the bill went on from 11.30am on Tuesday until 12.50am on Thursday with the Parliament clock being stopped in order for it to be voted on.

In total, six opposition members tabled 10 proposed changes to the bill, attempting to remove elements of detention without trial and allow for judicial review under the amendment bill but all were rejected by the House.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/pre...ses-amended-preventive-detention-law-20131004


The return of the king : one man to rule them all!!!
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Several crime alert signs in Bukit Timah, homeowners advised to keep guard up

ST_20130929_BSSIGN29_3858162e.jpg


When Linden Drive resident Zena Lim first saw a large sign near her home in Bukit Timah alerting residents about a break-in in her estate, she got a little worried.

That, however, quickly turned into fear after she spotted more of the same signs around her neighbourhood.

"I was very alarmed," said the 37-year-old ophthalmologist. "Were there multiple incidents? Have there been any arrests?"

She was not the only one rattled by the "crime alerts" put up by the police to warn homeowners to keep their guard up against break-ins.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breakin...everal-crime-alert-signs-bukit-timah-20130929
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Soon will have G&G concept for Sg landed housing too?
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Published: Monday October 7, 2013 MYT 12:00:00
Security is main concern for house buyers

JOHOR BARU: Home buyers are still leaning towards high-rise properties compared to landed units as security is their main concern when purchasing a house.

IJM Land Bhd general manager (southern region) Tham Huen Cheong said high-rise apartments usually provide a three-tier security system, which makes them more popular with buyers.

“In the minds of buyers, their main concern is security, which ranks above factors like location, price and comfort,” Tham told The Star when met at the launch of Epic@Iskandar Malaysia residential towers at Taman Suria Muafakat yesterday.

Tham added that when the buyers decide to buy landed properties, they tend to prefer gated and guarded housing developments for the same reason.

He said that interest in high-rise apartments was apparent as more than 50% of units of its first wing have been snapped up since last month.

“Most of the buyers are locals as well as Malaysians working in Singapore.

“It is easy for them to commute to the republic as it is just 10 minutes to the Causeway,” he said.

The development, with an estimated gross development value (GDV) of RM435mil, is made up of two 25-storey residential towers consisting of 528 units – 287 units in Wing A and 241 units in Wing B.

Tham said Wing A is slated for completion by October 2016, and has five layouts starting from 51 sq m to 230 sq m, with prices starting from RM460,800 all the way up to RM1.8mil.
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Soon will have G&G concept for Sg landed housing too?

Could it be the case that landed break-ins such as this are less reported in the press in Singapore, compared to MY, and so give the perception that there is more to fear when you live in MY?
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Could it be the case that landed break-ins such as this are less reported in the press in Singapore, compared to MY, and so give the perception that there is more to fear when you live in MY?

In the past, there's no such thing as G&G in Johor, so the fear is always there. With G&G, the fear is much, much lesser although occasion break-ins still do happen.

SG is always trying to paint itself as a safe country to the outside world esp now. Do you think they will publish every crime that happened?
If ever there's a really big economic crisis to happen any time from now resulting in massive layoffs, I will be very afraid to stay in a landed house in SG with so many unemployed foreign workers (in millions) around having no $ to go back.
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

The Straits Times Published on Oct 07, 2013

Uproar over Malaysia lawmaker's call for police to 'shoot first'

KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - Outrage was growing in Malaysia on Monday over a call by a security minister for police to "shoot first" when faced with criminal suspects, with the opposition branding his remarks as giving a "licence to kill".

Mr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, the minister for internal security, made the comment at a gathering with community leaders last Friday to discuss security in the wake of a recent spike in violent crime.

"I think the best way is that we no longer compromise with them. There is no need to give them any more warning. If we get the evidence, we shoot first," the Malaysian Insider web news portal quoted him as saying. :cool:

In recent weeks, 10 criminal suspects have reportedly been killed in police shoot-outs.

An aide to Mr Zahid confirmed the minister's remarks, and said he was currently abroad.

Mr S. Arulchelvan, secretary general of the Socialist party of Malaysia, expressed disgust and anger over Mr Zahid's statement.

"I am shocked. It is a very dangerous order. He is giving the police the licence to kill. This is total disregard for the rule of law," he told AFP.

Malaysia is generally a peaceful Southeast Asian country.

There has been a recent burst in execution-style killings involving firearms, however - including a of former banker and a top civil servant.

Police blame the dozens of shootings in recent months on a turf war by gang members they say were freed when previous security laws were scrapped in 2011.

Opposition lawmakers have criticised Mr Zahid's statement, branding it an endorsement for police to commit murder.

"This unprecedented admission by the Home Minister is a shock to the nation. It is nothing short of ministerial endorsement of extra-judicial killings by the police; it is incitement and approval of cold-blooded murder by the police force," opposition MP N. Surendran said.

"Zahid is inciting the police to be trigger-happy when confronting suspects," Mr Surendran, a member of opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim's Keadilan party, continued.

"All Malaysians are put in grave danger by this unlawful 'shoot-to-kill' method of law enforcement," he said in a statement.

Malaysia recently approved an amendment to a 1959 crime prevention law that allows authorities to hold suspects for an initial two years, which can be extended indefinitely without charge.

The amendment, put in place to deal with the gun violence, sparked a backlash by the opposition and activists who denounced it as a step back towards authoritarian rule.
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

I think when comes down to either the police or the criminal.. I think police will be glad of such leeway given by the govt. Just hope that the innocent bystanders won't be affected.
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Could it be the case that landed break-ins such as this are less reported in the press in Singapore, compared to MY, and so give the perception that there is more to fear when you live in MY?
Statistics in the spore police website shows there r more then 100 cases of house breakins in 2012 alone .
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Crimes are happen everywhere BUT a lot of cases are hidden. no news. why?
 
Last edited:
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

In today's new paper it was reported that a sg couple were robbed when they stopped at the petrol station opposite pelangi plaza. Guy was driving a vw scirocco, they tried to drive off to the causeway, but we're overtaken by a white lorry which was modified, this was driven by the gang. This petrol station, a former esso, has been under renovation for about a month and was still closed when I passed it yesterday. How to be pumping petrol there. Vw overtaken by lorry, sound like a ST original cops and robbers story.
 
Last edited:
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

In today's new paper it was reported that a sg couple were robbed when they stopped at the petrol station opposite pelangi plaza. Guy was driving a vw scirocco, they tried to drive off to the causeway, but we're overtaken by a white lorry which was modified, this was driven by the gang. This petrol station, a former esso, has been under renovation for about a month and was still closed when I passed it yesterday. How to be pumping petrol there. Vw overtaken by lorry, sound like a ST original cops and robbers story.

Not sure about the lorry overtaking the VW but I was around that area yesterday evening 8pm and yes from what I can see the petrol station is in operation. But could be its 1st day of operation?
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

In the past, there's no such thing as G&G in Johor, so the fear is always there. With G&G, the fear is much, much lesser although occasion break-ins still do happen.

SG is always trying to paint itself as a safe country to the outside world esp now. Do you think they will publish every crime that happened?
If ever there's a really big economic crisis to happen any time from now resulting in massive layoffs, I will be very afraid to stay in a landed house in SG with so many unemployed foreign workers (in millions) around having no $ to go back.

There are already a lot of break-ins at the landed houses in Singapore. Recently more due to more foreigners. I expect the figures to go up also at the condos. Whenever it escalates to a spate of burglaries, you will see a police sign at the neighbourhood.
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

There are already a lot of break-ins at the landed houses in Singapore. Recently more due to more foreigners. I expect the figures to go up also at the condos. Whenever it escalates to a spate of burglaries, you will see a police sign at the neighbourhood.

Even in places of worship, theft occurred too...
 
Re: Thieves make off with handbag when wedding guest goes to washroom

Wave of High-Profile Crimes Has Put Malaysians on the Defensive
By THOMAS FULLER
Published: October 18, 2013

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysia’s population has tripled over the past four decades. Its largest city, Kuala Lumpur, a place once so sparsely populated that it looked like a botanical garden, has exploded into a cosmopolitan metropolis of shopping malls, luxury hotels and sprawling suburbs.

But with modernity and urbanization came an unwanted corollary: a soaring crime rate that has blighted Kuala Lumpur, previously considered one of Asia’s safest cities, and other urban areas across Peninsular Malaysia. It is hard to find someone in Kuala Lumpur today who does not have a story about a purse snatching, a burglary or worse.

“Whatever defense we put up is not enough,” said Chong Kon Wah, a British-trained engineer who was burglarized twice at his home in the Kuala Lumpur suburbs and robbed once while in his car — all within 10 days in August.

Residents in middle-class and wealthy neighborhoods have begun to gate their communities, often without local government permission. And the demand for personal guards has soared, with the number of certified security companies nationwide more than tripling over the past decade to 712 from 200, according to the Security Services Association of Malaysia, which trains guards.

Last month, the United States Embassy in Kuala Lumpur sent a warning to American citizens here: “Remember to carry your backpack or purse on the shoulder AWAY from the road to prevent having it snatched by motorbikers.”

The possible reasons for a higher crime rate are a matter of debate — some say the country’s ethnic-based policies that favor majority Malays are partly to blame; others say the police force is corrupt and ineffectual. Even the extent of the crime wave in this country of 29 million people is in question.

Despite the widely held perception of a sustained crime wave, the government says that after doubling from 2000 to 2009, the number of reported cases of violent crime nationwide has declined sharply since then. Government officials say they have achieved the drop by adding police officers on the streets and security cameras and barriers along roads to deter thefts by people on motorbikes, as well as by studying policing methods in cities like New York.

But a series of high-profile crimes this year — including some against government officials or their relatives — have led the authorities to begin to acknowledge the depth of the problem. Since August, the police have arrested more than 11,000 people suspected of being gang members. And in a reversal of earlier changes meant to shed some of the country’s authoritarian legacy, the government last month passed laws that would give the police the authority to detain suspects without trial.

As worries rise, the opposition says the government is manipulating the statistics. Critics note that, after years of providing the public with data on murders, rapes, thefts and other crimes, the government has changed the way it presents crime statistics, focusing on what it calls “index crimes” rather than giving a detailed accounting. Tony Pua, an opposition member of Parliament, said he had “no confidence at all” that the figures were accurate.

The Malaysian government has also stopped providing crime statistics to the United Nations, according to Enrico Bisogno, the official responsible for compiling crime data at the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

But in response to a request from The New York Times, the Malaysian police provided detailed crime statistics that show the number of homicides over the past 12 years has remained relatively unchanged at about 600 a year. The data also show wide swings in some categories of crime, including a reduction in robberies using a firearm to 17 cases in 2012, from 722 cases nationwide in 2000. Another category, gang robbery, fell to 110 cases in 2012, from a high of 1,809 in 2010.

One crime that did show a steep rise was rape, with the number reported from 2000 to 2012 doubling to 2,964 cases.

Teh Yik Koon, a criminologist at the National Defense University of Malaysia, says it is widely accepted that crime rates are higher than reported, and she says one problem is a sense of hopelessness that the police can solve crimes.

“There are a lot of people not reporting crimes,” she said, “because they feel there’s nothing the police can do.”

In a country that has long relied on foreign visitors — investors and tourists — for a good share of its economic growth, Malaysia’s paternalistic government had consistently minimized the crime problem.

“If you try to make a fuss out of one or two cases, it will only worsen the situation and create a picture that the country is not safe,” Hishammuddin Hussein, who was home minister at the time, said last year.

But in the months since Mr. Hishammuddin made those comments, the string of high-profile cases in Kuala Lumpur and other cities has brought crime to the top of the political agenda.

Close relatives of the deputy prime minister and the chief of police were burglarized in separate crimes last May. The former head of a local bank was killed in July, and a top executive of one of the country’s most successful companies, AirAsia, was killed during a robbery in August.

When the house of Khairy Jamaluddin, a prominent politician and government minister, was burglarized in June, Malaysians got the straight talk from a government official many had been hoping for.

“The burglary is a reminder to all of us that crime is a serious problem in Malaysia,” Mr. Khairy wrote on his Facebook page.

This month, the home minister, Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, highlighted the government’s new get-tough approach in a speech in which he said it would “no longer compromise” with criminals, according to the news Web site Malaysiakini.

And in comments that drew outrage from the opposition, he said the police should “get the evidence” and “shoot first.”

Human rights groups say they are alarmed by a number of recent cases of criminal suspects who died in police custody.

Critics of the government’s approach say that amid what they call an obfuscation of crime statistics and the sudden crackdown, any real discussion of the roots of Malaysia’s crime problem is being lost.

They blame not only a police force that they view as corrupt and ineffectual, but also income inequality and the alienation of ethnic Indians who represent 7 percent of the country’s population, yet, according to the police, make up two-thirds of gang members.

Some suggest the government needs to modify the country’s seemingly inviolable preferential policies for Malays, who receive scholarships, cheaper housing and government contracts as part of a policy dating from the 1970s.

Ahmad Ghazali Abu Hassan, a professor at the National Defense University of Malaysia, says the system of preferences for Malays “should be modified to address inequality within our society, without identifying race.”

Particularly in need of help, he said, were ethnic Indians. “I still believe that poverty is the root cause of this,” he said.

As the debates continue, Malaysians have begun trying to protect themselves.

Mr. Chong, the engineer who was burglarized twice, helped pay for a guard booth and two security guards for his neighborhood several years ago. Thieves stole the television inside the booth while the guards were on patrol.

“We told the police, ‘This is serious. The thieves are everywhere,’ ” he said. “ ‘Something has to be done.’ ”

A restaurant across from Kuala Lumpur’s domestic airport hired an armed security guard in May to deter would-be thieves after attacks on several restaurants in the area.

“A lot of people think it’s a gimmick,” said Terence Wong, the restaurant’s manager. “It’s too expensive to be a gimmick. And my customers say they feel more secure.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/20/w...g-malaysia-by-surprise.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0
 
Back
Top