Jabs and potshots on Obama

[splintuh]

Palin is a right choice. rommney might have more experience, but Palin has got the charisma to charm the americans.

Palin is there to entrench the Republican's traditional stronghold. Gun-slinging, tabacco-chewing, conservative White America. McCain's gotta go after the swing vote, coz Palin's too one-dimensional. She's not gonna charm anyone outside that demographic.

Other than for this demographic pull, I don't see Palin's having real credentials for the VP post. If the Republicans win, there is a possibility of McCain going out of duty (sick/death/whatever), leaving Palin as the Commander-in-Chief.

*shudder*

 

[Alu862]

Palin is there to entrench the Republican's traditional stronghold. Gun-slinging, tabacco-chewing, conservative White America. McCain's gotta go after the swing vote, coz Palin's too one-dimensional. She's not gonna charm anyone outside that demographic.

Other than for this demographic pull, I don't see Palin's having real credentials for the VP post. If the Republicans win, there is a possibility of McCain going out of duty (sick/death/whatever), leaving Palin as the Commander-in-Chief.

*shudder*

And American teenagers will have the green light to have pre martial sex

 

[splintuh]

And American teenagers will have the green light to have pre martial sex

They don't need Palin for that, they've been doing that for donkey years!

 

[char_jig_kar]

It seems that you are more interested in bashing Obama than actually debating on the issues. Despite the rest of us pointing out the examples where McCain has fallen short, you keep on padding on the argument of 'experience'. And when you lose the experience argument, you call us names and you call Obama and Biden even more names.

i did call obama a con man. but i didn't recall calling any of his supporters any names.

And now you fall back on the experience argument, when McCain has appointed Palin as his nominee, even though she has even less nationwide exposure and has been less exposed to partisan politics being in Alaska and even worse, less responsibilities due to the scale of difference.

Simply put when you put in the experience reason, knowing that Palin has even less experience than Obama, you have lost the main thrust of this argument. You are just pushing the reasons in a merry-go-round fashion as if you think we will buy it after a while.

You got it wrong. I don't think Palin has less executive experience than Obama. In fact, Palin has got more executive experience than Obama.

In short, buddy, you are a bloody joke if we sammyboy samsters were just born yesterday.

no. u are the bloody joke. you talk as if u are some true blue americans. why get so personal with me on this american election?? you need to cool down. i didn't even see that kind of passion from u when u talk about singapore politics over at the old coffeshop.

 

[char_jig_kar]

LOL!!! I agree that Obama has no experience but life is like a game. Everything is always a first time experience. But Obama talks very well and holds weight which can make people listen to Obama speech. There is one insight that Obama gain some insight at http://ohiit.com/weblog/archives/254. It is an interesting read.

Btw I believe most Amercian is growing to like Barack Obama. He tells in an interesting perspective and insight. But afterall he is still learning. And so do we. The world has no universally of right or wrong to who is superior.

"My fellow citizens, the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of 'personal discovery.' " -----Palin RNC speech 2008

 

[The_Latest_H]

In the end, char, whatever else you add in is elementary. We have already exposed you for everyone else here to judge.

"My fellow citizens, the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of 'personal discovery.' " -----Palin RNC speech 2008

Coming from you, and her, it amazes me you and her don't know much about irony. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[char_jig_kar]

In the end, char, whatever else you add in is elementary. We have already exposed you for everyone else here to judge.




Coming from you, and her, it amazes me you and her don't know much about irony. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Exposed? You had exposed yourself too from your posts. We all 'exposed' something when involve in a conversation the topic is on the US presidential election candidates. So??

What irony u talking about? Palin had her share of executive experience. Been there done that. Obama? Dreaming of 'internship' in the white house and experiment on making executive decision??? Using White House as his training ground???

 

[ajikage]

The great american presidents in the past all have little experience. (JFK, Lincoln, etc)

One of the worst in recent history has over 20 years experience in executive level (Bush)

 

[char_jig_kar]

The great american presidents in the past all have little experience. (JFK, Lincoln, etc)

One of the worst in recent history has over 20 years experience in executive level (Bush)

JFK although he had no executive experience, he had been a United States House of Representatives (1946-52) & a United States Senate (1952-60). Obama? 143 days as a senator.

Lincoln? Not sure about him. But he had been in the military, right?

 

[Alu862]

JFK although he had no executive experience, he had been a United States House of Representatives (1946-52) & a United States Senate (1952-60). Obama? 143 days as a senator.

Lincoln? Not sure about him. But he had been in the military, right?

it's the land of opportunity. Experience is not a prerequisite for leadership

 

[The_Latest_H]

JFK although he had no executive experience, he had been a United States House of Representatives (1946-52) & a United States Senate (1952-60). Obama? 143 days as a senator.

Lincoln? Not sure about him. But he had been in the military, right?

Ah, but no. Sorry to disappoint you but Abraham Lincoln was a lawyer, not a military man. But he was the guy who won the Civil war for the Union.

And FDR wasn't a military trained guy either. When he ran, he was the Governor for New York state, and he was once the civilian Secretary Of the Navy to the Defence Secretary in the immediate post WWI years.

Still, he was the one who engineered the eventual allied victory. If not for Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill wouldn't have really liked each other to work with each other and with Roosevelt for an Allied victory on both fronts.

 

[Alu862]

Ah, but no. Sorry to disappoint you but Abraham Lincoln was a lawyer, not a military man. But he was the guy who won the Civil war for the Union.

And FDR wasn't a military trained guy either. When he ran, he was the Governor for New York state, and he was once the civilian Secretary Of the Navy to the Defence Secretary in the immediate post WWI years.

Still, he was the one who engineered the eventual allied victory. If not for Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill wouldn't have really liked each other to work with each other and with Roosevelt for an Allied victory on both fronts.

Rosovelt was a weakling by the time the US entered the war. His stance of appeasing the USSR lead to the CW divide.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Exposed? You had exposed yourself too from your posts. We all 'exposed' something when involve in a conversation the topic is on the US presidential election candidates. So??

What irony u talking about? Palin had her share of executive experience. Been there done that. Obama? Dreaming of 'internship' in the white house and experiment on making executive decision??? Using White House as his training ground???

Palin is using the VP slot as her nationwide OJT program as well, and that's saying it lot. Plus she was only in charge of a state that has 650,000 people. It may sound a lot to a lot of Singaporeans, but for such a large state like Alaska, its probably like 3 people for every 100 sq km or something like that.

Compare that to the state of California, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois for example. As I said, scale of responsibility is higher and if you're a governor of a swing state, and the time's right for a Presidential run, you will have a chance.

Alaska doesn't have a chance because its so isolated and so outback. Its only because its such an open election someone like her has a chance. But no matter; her selection is a good challenge.

The democrats will get on with it and devise a way to get victory.

 

[Alu862]

Americans are funny. Land of the Free, home of the brave. It is also the land of Palin-likes--simple educated females who have amny children and doesn't care if their daughters have pre marital sex.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Rosovelt was a weakling by the time the US entered the war. His stance of appeasing the USSR lead to the CW divide.

That's wrong. In the war itself, you can't really select your allies. In WWII, when Hitler attacked Russia, would you expect the US and the UK to set aside? If you have a common enemy and you have not many other options, you take the best option.

But in the end, Truman did follow through with Roosevelt's vision. Plus it was Roosevelt who let women to work in the factories and to produce war equipment. Because everyone went to work and earned money, it set the stage for a post-war economic and baby boom when the surviving men from the armed forces return home and civilian life.

Plus the Marshall Plan- the tons of cash- that came from the boom was used to help strengthen western europe against communism. So Roosevelt played a part in it; Truman was the one who implemented the eventual plan.

 

[Alu862]

That's wrong. In the war itself, you can't really select your allies. In WWII, when Hitler attacked Russia, would you expect the US and the UK to set aside? If you have a common enemy and you have not many other options, you take the best option.

But in the end, Truman did follow through with Roosevelt's vision. Plus it was Roosevelt who let women to work in the factories and to produce war equipment. Because everyone went to work and earned money, it set the stage for a post-war economic and baby boom when the surviving men from the armed forces return home and civilian life.

Plus the Marshall Plan- the tons of cash- that came from the boom was used to help strengthen western europe against communism. So Roosevelt played a part in it; Truman was the one who implemented the eventual plan.

Urgh. Rosovelt was to appease the Russians in the later stages of the war--it was not even his actions--his advisers.

Truman was the more hawkish and more align with Churchill--both saw that the Russians would be the ultimate victors in post WWII Europe.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Urgh. Rosovelt was to appease the Russians in the later stages of the war--it was not even his actions--his advisers.

Truman was the more hawkish and more align with Churchill--both saw that the Russians would be the ultimate victors in post WWII Europe.

In any case, no matter what Roosevelt do in some aspects during WWII, he was the one who also dumped Wallace, his Veep, for Truman for his fourth term.

 

[Alu862]

In any case, no matter what Roosevelt do in some aspects during WWII, he was the one who also dumped Wallace, his Veep, for Truman for his fourth term.

Tue. Bakc then VPs were nothing much. They sat, listen and waited for the President to die/resign.

Nowadays, VPs conduct as much power as POTUS. How can we trust a mother who encourages her daughter to have pre marital sex to conduct America's image

 

[char_jig_kar]

Ah, but no. Sorry to disappoint you but Abraham Lincoln was a lawyer, not a military man. But he was the guy who won the Civil war for the Union.

And FDR wasn't a military trained guy either. When he ran, he was the Governor for New York state, and he was once the civilian Secretary Of the Navy to the Defence Secretary in the immediate post WWI years.

Still, he was the one who engineered the eventual allied victory. If not for Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill wouldn't have really liked each other to work with each other and with Roosevelt for an Allied victory on both fronts.

Am I right to say its Obama who is the first to brought up the issue of Palin's executive experience? So why the flip flop from the Obama's camp, and say, executive experience is not an issue??

 

[Alu862]

Am I right to say its Obama who is the first to brought up the issue of Palin's executive experience? So why the flip flop from the Obama's camp, and say, executive experience is not an issue??

Obama personally said he would not say anything on Palin's family or character. Biden too.

wait for the VP debates. Then see how great you Palin is not.