It's official from UN announcement. Taiwan is not part of CCP China and never have been.

[syed putra]

Technically claimable - the useless Qings gave it to Russia when in decline. But when the CCP took over China, Russia was the world's #2 superpower and the CCP had to suck thumb.

If it was given, and not conquered, then it's tough.
Like how umno gave away sinkie.

 

[superpower]

If it was given, and not conquered, then it's tough.
Like how umno gave away sinkie.

Given under duress, threat of war lah... no country gives away its land willingly...

The Treaty of Aigun was an 1858 treaty between the Russian Empire and Yishan, official of the Qing dynasty of China. It established much of the modern border between the Russian Far East and China by ceding much of Manchuria (the ancestral homeland of the Manchu people), now known as Northeast China.[1] Negotiations began after China was threatened with war on a second front by Governor-General of the Far East Nikolay Muraviev when China was suppressing the Taiping Rebellion.[2] It reversed the Treaty of Nerchinsk (1689) by transferring the land between the Stanovoy Range and the Amur River from the Qing dynasty to the Russian Empire. Russia received over 600,000 square kilometers (231,660 sq mi) of what became known as Outer Manchuria.[3][2] While the Qing government initially refused to recognize the validity of the treaty, the Russian gains under the Treaty of Aigun was affirmed as part of the 1860 Sino-Russian Convention of Peking.[4]

 

[Ah Max]

政治是务实的，实力不及他国就别逞强。适者生存，成王败寇。这个道理每个统治者都明白的。

兄弟 但还是不可以专挑软柿子捏呀!

 

[eatshitndie]

Chinese were not victors. They were handed these areas on a silver platter. Maybe due your US insistence, Japan handed over what was previously its territory to china.

near the end of ww2 soviets invaded and occupied manchuria by destroying the jap occupiers. it led to jap unconditional surrender to americans not soviets as jap emperor would be better off under american occupation. otherwise the jap emperor would give up jap islands and continue the war in manchuria. it was americans who negotiated with soviets to return manchuria to kmt china. otherwise it would be part of russia today. soviets left much of their military hardware after manchurian invasion to the ccp to fight the kmt. ccp should thank americans for getting manchuria back in chinese hands. but of course we all know ccp is a bunch of backstabbing and ungrateful thugs.

 

[syed putra]

near the end of ww2 soviets invaded and occupied manchuria by destroying the jap occupiers. it led to jap unconditional surrender to americans not soviets as jap emperor would be better off under american occupation. otherwise the jap emperor would give up jap islands and continue the war in manchuria. it was americans who negotiated with soviets to return manchuria to kmt china. otherwise it would be part of russia today. soviets left much of their military hardware after manchurian invasion to the ccp to fight the kmt. ccp should thank americans for getting manchuria back in chinese hands. but of course we all know ccp is a bunch of backstabbing and ungrateful thugs.

Taiwan too. But eventually kmt lost on the mainland and retreated to the orang asli island.

 

[Hightech88]

Of course. Because....

The Real China belongs to ROC. It's time for ranjiao CCP to return back.

 

[eatshitndie]

Taiwan too. But eventually kmt lost on the mainland and retreated to the orang asli island.

taiwan was never kmt’s long term objective, just a stop-gap to retreat from ccp onslaught. they kept in reserve for over 3 decades a “mainland (re-)invasion” fund until the un recognized ccp as a legit member (with help and endorsement from unker sam after nixon visited tiongcock to establish diplomatic relations). all engineered by crafty jew kissinger. now taiwanese and ex mainlanders who retreated from mainland rescind the “invasion fund” and use the money to build up taiwan, knowing full well their children’s future is in taiwan and never in mainland anymore for as long as the ccp is in charge. only some diehard ex mainlanders (all old, senile, and dying) in tw want reunifucation and have their descendants’ future in a united tiongcock. but when asked if they wish to balik tiongsua now, they prefer to either stay put in tw or go to america. i know many of these talk cock ex mainlanders in america, and all of them collect social security, enjoy medicare, buy american homes, have entire families in u.s., talk great about tiongcock, talk shit about america, but when push cums to shove they have fears visiting tiongcock as they are afraid of getting detained for no reason other than proudly carrying an american passport, getting robbed, kidnapped, and or killed. asked if they wish to settle in tiongcock for good so they can die there and be buried in their fatherland, the clear concise answer is an obvious “no”.

 

[Eisenhut]

Never part ccp and never have been. But does not mean "never will be in future "

Kum lan question.

Ask taiwanese, 50% split down middle

 

[Hypocrite-The]

The issue that no one talks about is the chicons by controlling such a huge area which was never Cina proper is actually destroying chicons land itself. Those rubbish areas like Tibet, xinjiang etc is costing the chicons huge amount of resources...a para military force just as big as the PLA is needed to control these areas which are majority desert etc n of course vanity projects etc all costs money...this does not benefit the general populace. Think back to the Song n Southern Song dynasties...the standard of living n technological advancement was highest in the medieval world...bcos the cina control the most productive lands n don't have to waste resources..n they held out against the mongols despite their disdain for the military... now chicon land economy is going back wards..poor but still have to spend on internal control...sure pok kai