It's about People, not cattle, Prof Lim Chong Yah lambasts Lee Yi Shyan

[ZorrorroZ]

Trying to get something for nothing is human nature not Kiwi nature. If you allow the "disadvantaged" to take advantage of handouts, the cycle will start and it's very hard to break once it's entrenched.

I agree with you on this. That's why there are so many PRC freeloading on our Uni education here in SG, 'cos our Gahmen created a crutch mentality in them by dishing out free scholarships left and right in ulu villages in China...

 

[freedalas]

Unless Singaporeans belong to a different species altogether, I see no reason why sinkies would behave any differently. You have to remember that I lived there for more than 30 years and witnessed first hand what a bunch of layabouts Singaporeans can be too.

Trying to get something for nothing is human nature not Kiwi nature. If you allow the "disadvantaged" to take advantage of handouts, the cycle will start and it's very hard to break once it's entrenched.

A kick in the ass is what they need. It will do them a world of good and they'll thank you for it in due course.

I guess we will never agree on this. But it would gross injustice to the poor and needy in S'pore if I do not stand up to say that they are very different from those you tried helping in NZ. They in fact are quite the opposite of what you experienced in NZ.

 

[erection2015]

its very difficult to change BosSam's mind about this. He can be a stubborn old coot.

Do not disagree with this.

There will always be people who are poor and lazy. I'm only saying that it's unfair to say every poor person is lazy.

 

[rusty]

You have to remember that I lived there for more than 30 years and witnessed first hand what a bunch of layabouts Singaporeans can be too.

30 years ago, there was no COE or MRT
30 years ago we saw people chewing gums happily and now we see them chewing shits created by PAP grudgingly
30 years ago we were told to stop at two and now we can't even stop importing FTs after a million or two
30 years ago few ministers have not been caught for corruptions
30 years ago minister were not paid more than 5 kg of gold

Lifestyles have changed a lot.
Can you feel the frustrations and understand the problems people faced here today?

 

[Leongsam]

30 years ago, there was no COE or MRT

You need to brush up on your comprehension.

I said "I lived there for more than 30 years".

I did NOT say "I lived there 30 years ago".

 

[rusty]

You need to brush up on your comprehension.

I said "I lived there for more than 30 years".

I did NOT say "I lived there 30 years ago".

So you have been living here for more than 30 years. Be a little specific.. 31,35, 38, 39, 40, 45 or 50? (All these are more than 30)

Anyway, it is a fact 30 years ago there was no COE or MRT isn't it?

 

[kingrant]

Depending on whether you are a septegenarian now or not, rusty has a point, and you were rather vague. You could have left 30 yrs ago having lived in SIN for 30 years. That will make you at least 60 yrs old boy.

You need to brush up on your comprehension.

I said "I lived there for more than 30 years".

I did NOT say "I lived there 30 years ago".

 

[frenchbriefs]

this just affirms everything that i have suspected from the beginning,that u are nothing but a self righteous pompous prick that is so proud of himself for knowing what little in his tiny flea brain,whose advice he gives is even crappier than the general vague crap that the now defunct robert kiyosaki has ever dished out.....a pathetic excuse of a pseudo intellect even in his so called world of expertise-the investment world....yes yes u have made some money but even in the tiny fishing village where i live u would register as a nobody,which by the way is east coast,home of the executive condo residences and landed property,iv seen indian palaces in mountbatten that would blow ur mind,go look up home of Lakshmi Vinas at mountbatten rd.....now within 2km radius of my home i can count at least 20 condo projects,at least 8 of each have been constructed over the last 10 years....including the prestigious tanjong rhu oceanfront condo residences which by the way is also a shithole ah neh enclave....i live in the land of millionaires and u wouldnt even register as a blip.

you think ur so smart but u dont even understand the simplest of human psyche,if a man chooses to live a meagre existence of a life on a pathetic welfare check of 800 quid a month,who are u to tell him what he can or cannot do?if a man wants to live a life of inconsequentialness,to laydown in a lifeless lump of apathy,to wallow in his own pool of misery and apathy,to lash out at the world,is it not his perogative?u dick head.who do u think u are?u think ur life is better more meaningful or purposeful than others just because u have a pocket full of dolla dolla bills yo?no,ur freaking job is to approve his welfare assistance and shut ur big flapping self righteous pie hole!!!!some of us have to be the loser in this world,do u know the heavy burden and the cross we have to bear to walk this earth as losers?nobody knows the trouble i have seen,nobody knows my sorrow,nobody knows the trouble iv seen!!!!glory hallelujah!!!!some times im up sometimes im down,oh yes lord!!!!sometimes im almost down to the ground,oh yes lord!!!!

They're ALL like that. I used to do social work too. I gave up after finding out that none of them I dealt with were willing to help themselves.

There was this fat Maori lump of shit that I tried to help. He could not work because he was always sick. He received benefits because of his illness but the case was brought to my attention because he had ended up in debt.

I told him the first thing that he needed to do was lose 50Kg and stop wasting his money on smoking. All his health problems were related to being overweight plus his other disgusting habits... ie hypertension and type 2 diabetes.

2 weeks later I visited him again. He was still smoking and had not done a single routine that I had mapped out for him to lose weight. He said he needed good walking shoes. I gave him $100 from my own pocket to buy shoes... that was a big mistake.

A month later... still no walking shoes. Turns out he used the money to buy cigs instead.

This is one case. I had many more similar that I experienced first hand. Other social workers that I work with all have similar stories.

It boils down to this :

1) They have no will power.
2) They can't break out of their addictions.
3) They refuse to change their diets or their spending habits.

If I could subject them to military law and put them through boot camp. They'd all come out much better off. The touchy, feely, softly, softly approach does not work. They simply take advantage of the help they get and refuse to make any changes themselves.