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Chitchat It Makes Perfect Sense that Generals Become Ministers

gatehousethetinkertailor

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https://sg.style.yahoo.com/makes-perfect-sense-generals-become-091311764.html
 

Seee3

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Actually there is nothing wrong for general to become politician. The real issue is the selection process. How are these leaders identified.

Leaders are born, not made. No amount of training and nurturing can create a leader. It only produce an manager. Leaders acts on intuition and reacts readily to new situations. Managers look for past solutions to tackle problem.

So much said, the current process can never find a great leader. They want someone obedient. Great leaders are never obedient. Only crooks and fools can be extremely obedient. Crooks will still follow instruction diligently knowing full well it is heading the wrong way as long as himself is not hurt. Fools will just obey and actually believes that he is doing great.
 

scroobal

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Actually the argument should be that anyone including a fish monger can be politician.

It’s the only other vocation in the world that does not require a formal set of qualifications.

There is also no such thing as a selection process for a politician. Singaporeans for some reason think there is because they read too many stories of PAP tea party.

Some one who wants to run for political office only has to step forward and garner votes.

It’s easier said than done but that’s how much of the free World operates. Look at the Canadian, Australian, British, Kiwi, US and much of the European councils, state legislatures, federal cabinets etc. You see ex school teachers, firemen, retail store owner, scientists, businessmen etc. People from all walks of life.

In Singapore people actually watch too much PAP to see who is going to be called up for the selection process.

I see the same logic freeze when you ask people why they do not want to migrate.



Actually there is nothing wrong for general to become politician.
 

tanwahtiu

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Wait till u voted a sickman Palmerston type bastard who use gunboats to destroy China and force illegal opium trade on China your country will kill more good men for wrong biz.

Angmoh style of political selection of people to take on office are dangerous and sick.

Behind angmoh politicians are sickmen Rothchild family gangster that control the country.

Asians shd not follow bullshit angmoh politicin selection which is a danger path to destruction.
 

scroobal

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I know that in our minds that it is counter intuitive not to go thru a selection process. We also assume that someone chosen by PSC at age 18 to do his studies overseas are on the inside track.

This is due to conditioning by the media.

A politician is an elected rep of the people in a geographic area. The better ones move on to hold political leadership.



The pioneer batch of PAP ministars had fish mongers?
 

pakchewcheng

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The pioneer batch of PAP ministars had fish mongers?

Fishmonger got more back bone , more knowledge, more honest and much more atas than any of the fucking PAP ministars.

For that matter anyone including whores and cardboard pickers got more back bone , more knowledge, more honest and much more atas than any of the fucking PAP ministars.
 

bobby

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The biggest irony is that we have so many Generals who commanded armies who have never ever fired a single bullet against any enemy whatsoever.....
 

dr.wailing

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Leaders are born, not made. No amount of training and nurturing can create a leader. It only produce an manager. Leaders acts on intuition and reacts readily to new situations. Managers look for past solutions to tackle problem.

So much said, the current process can never find a great leader.

Based on your observations, do you honestly think that CNA (Chief Natural Aristocrat) is a leader? And is he a "great leader"?

Remember that Mee Siam Mai Hum was handpicked by Old Fart, who the latter thinks that has the qualities of a great leader.

Could a great leader like Old Fart have had made a mistake in his assessment of his anointed son?

Pertinently was Old Fart a great leader? The state-controlled media and the PAP propaganda machinery have over the past 50 plus years drilled into Sinkies that Old Fart was a great visionary.
 

pakchewcheng

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Based on your observations, do you honestly think that CNA (Chief Natural Aristocrat) is a leader? And is he a "great leader"?

Remember that Mee Siam Mai Hum was handpicked by Old Fart, who the latter thinks that has the qualities of a great leader.

Could a great leader like Old Fart have had made a mistake in his assessment of his anointed son?

Pertinently was Old Fart a great leader? The state-controlled media and the PAP propaganda machinery have over the past 50 plus years drilled into Sinkies that Old Fart was a great visionary.

ROTFFLMFAOLKITA

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JohnTan

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Pertinently was Old Fart a great leader? The state-controlled media and the PAP propaganda machinery have over the past 50 plus years drilled into Sinkies that Old Fart was a great visionary.

Ah Gong was a great leader.

Back in the 1950s, you would never have guessed that Ah Gong would be our founding PM. There was already a government in place. Later on, David Marshall took over. A few years later, most people expected Lim Chin Siong to be our prime minister.

A great politician has to have the ability to survive through tough times on his wits. Ah Gong has the ability to survive against the odds, the Brits, the Japs, the Brits again, the Commies and leading sinkies through the turbluent 60s against both domestic and regional threats. Sinkies who seem the world through their self righteous lens of black-and-white are deluded. They would probably have led Singapore into destruction.
 

glockman

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Ah Gong was a great leader.

Back in the 1950s, you would never have guessed that Ah Gong would be our founding PM. There was already a government in place. Later on, David Marshall took over. A few years later, most people expected Lim Chin Siong to be our prime minister.

A great politician has to have the ability to survive through tough times on his wits. Ah Gong has the ability to survive against the odds, the Brits, the Japs, the Brits again, the Commies and leading sinkies through the turbluent 60s against both domestic and regional threats. Sinkies who seem the world through their self righteous lens of black-and-white are deluded. They would probably have led Singapore into destruction.
Old man was a good leader, he had the good luck of having a team of honorable and capable men around him. His greatest mistake was his fear of losing power after he had acquired it. He forgot we are supposed to be a democracy. He forgot the country does not belong to him and his family alone. Hence, his survival and the survival of the PAP became paramount, regardless of how ensuring their survival could be destructive to the country.
 

Seee3

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Pertinently was Old Fart a great leader? The state-controlled media and the PAP propaganda machinery have over the past 50 plus years drilled into Sinkies that Old Fart was a great visionary.

Most man, if not nearly all man are selfish. If it benefits them or make them feel good, it will be deemed to be good.

Ask followers of city harvest, kh is definitely a good leader. Ask 70% of the population, lky is also a good leader. Ask the opp supporters, he will be called a crook.

To me, a good leader would put his personal concern last. Do you think he had achieved that?
 
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