Islamic scholar says ‘if the Quran says that the Earth is flat, then it has to be flat’

[duluxe]

@Leongsam boss, the famous muslim scholar Zakir Naik constradicted you and @Loofydralb. Zakir Naik says the earth is spherical.

 

[JohnTan]

The lifeless stone has no power, might or ability whatsoever to do anything, thus we do not worship it.

"We" ? You aren't the ambassador of the moslems even if you want to talk like you are. Whether or not you worship or fuck that stone, it doesn't change the fact that millions of moslem pilgrims are behaving as though the stone has magical powers. Look at how they push and stampede to touch the stone.

 

[Leongsam]

@Leongsam boss, the famous muslim scholar Zakir Naik constradicted you and @Loofydralb. Zakir Naik says the earth is spherical.

It is spherical in 3 dimensions but once you add a 4th dimension and take into account the quantum effects of gravity the shape then depends upon the reference point of the viewer.

 

[duluxe]

It is spherical in 3 dimensions but once you add a 4th dimension and take into account the quantum effects of gravity the shape then depends upon the reference point of the viewer.

There is a 5th dimension calls fairytale.

 

[nightsafari]

It is spherical in 3 dimensions but once you add a 4th dimension and take into account the quantum effects of gravity the shape then depends upon the reference point of the viewer.

WTF? This is an obvious dodge. The definition of spherical is purely 3 dimensional. Nothing to do with any dimension beyond the 3.

As for quantum effects and gravity, you're obviously farting that out because quantum effects deny the universality of gravity.

 

[Leongsam]

WTF? This is an obvious dodge. The definition of spherical is purely 3 dimensional. Nothing to do with any dimension beyond the 3.

As for quantum effects and gravity, you're obviously farting that out because quantum effects deny the universality of gravity.

Once you have wrapped your head round the concept that the universe is a hypertorus everything will become crystal clear.

 

[duluxe]

The Quran has another verses saying Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet.

You can roll up the carpet hypertorusly?

 

[syed putra]

False. islam is a fake religion that relies on killing moslems if they want to leave islam. Adam couldn't have been a moslem because Adam never acknowledge mahomet as "his prophet", not just as a prophet.

Besides, Adam ran around nude in Eden. moslems like you want a prophet who wouldn't acknowledge mahomet and ran around nude?



islam has always been nonsense, with numerous versions of qurans in circulation until standardization in 1924 in Egypt.

Islam is a way of life,

 

[Loofydralb]

If you are unreluctant to ask a MUIS imam, ask a JB imam.

My point is that there no no word "swimming" in the Quran.
Don't be vague. State your point.
The perspective that the heavenly bodies are spherical is out current perceive knowledge and view.
Again science needs to catch up to the Quran.

 

[mudhatter]

False. islam is a fake religion that relies on killing moslems if they want to leave islam. Adam couldn't have been a moslem because Adam never acknowledge mahomet as "his prophet", not just as a prophet.

You are talking about Christianity. Which has no intact scripture or Bible left. What was the original language in which Bible was revealed? And what "version" did you read?
Yes, there is no such thing as a "moslem".

Prophet Adam (PBUH) was a Muslim and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the final Prophet of Allah SWT.

Besides, Adam ran around nude in Eden. moslems like you want a prophet who wouldn't acknowledge mahomet and ran around nude?

WTF is Eden? We don't see any such nonsensical terms in the Quran. It must be your faggot priests who farked you up your arse (naked) that makes you conjure up such an image.


Why would anyone want to accept faggotry like your priests have been promoting? Why do you like taking it up the arse from all and sundry? Has your injury healed yet? Can you walk straight?

islam has always been nonsense, with numerous versions of qurans in circulation until standardization in 1924 in Egypt.

You should have the gumption now to go out in public and admit your falsehood about different "versions" of the Quran have been completely and thoroughly trounced, leaving not only your arse itching for some long hard c0cks but also your neck for some "smiting". When are you going to come out in public and offer your neck for execution?

I know you are a faggot, but at least, have the gumption to accept defeat.

Be ready to accept beheading. in public. Go ahead, reveal your identity, apepar in public, offer your neck for execution. I can't tell you to "be a man" since you are a faggot. But at least yu wuhan virus spreading sum tim wong and wai yu wai ting should have the gumption to accept defeat.

 

[mudhatter]

Really? moslems can be seen in the photo desperately trying to touch the magic stone, as though it can clean their sins or make them holy. So funny to see moslems commit idolatry and then deny it. Like your said, your moslem god's arabic religion is full of contradictions, where yes can mean no.

That's just your slanted eyes making you "see things".

There is no idolatry involved as @Loofydralb explained.

Many Muslims also break fast, i.e. start their Iftar, by eating voraciously after a long day of fasting during Ramadan (or at other times). Nothing to do with idolatry.

Only an idolater would see tinges of idolatry when there is none.

Is that called guilty conscience? or what is it called?

 

[k1976]

This is not false, but depend how u put your prospective

 

[k1976]

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[duluxe]

This is not false, but depend how u put your prospective

If the prospective is muslim, it will always be true even if the evidence says otherwise.

 

[duluxe]

My point is that there no no word "swimming" in the Quran.
Don't be vague. State your point.
The perspective that the heavenly bodies are spherical is out current perceive knowledge and view.
Again science needs to catch up to the Quran.

The Quran states that the SUN is moving and orbiting LOL!

 

[k1976]

If the prospective is muslim, it will always be true even if the evidence says otherwise.

Cannot say like that.... Universe cam be really 2D if u choose a vintage point of measurement few million light year away, irregardless u are a Muslim or Christian or Buddhist

 

[Loofydralb]

The Quran states that the SUN is moving and orbiting LOL!

Our current understanding of the universe says the sun has its own orbit.
Are you too daft to know that?

 

[duluxe]

Our current understanding of the universe says the sun has its own orbit.
Are you too daft to know that?

Your reply helps to clarify Quran 2:258: "I give life and cause death." Abraham said, "Indeed, Allah brings up the sun from the east, so bring it up from the west."

This verse is clear that the sun moves, not the earth.

 

[Loofydralb]

Your reply helps to clarify Quran 2:258: "I give life and cause death." Abraham said, "Indeed, Allah brings up the sun from the east, so bring it up from the west."

This verse is clear that the sun moves, not the earth.

This is the translation of the whole verse that will give proper context:
Quran 2:258
"Are you ˹O Prophet˺ not aware of the one who argued with Abraham about his Lord because Allah had granted him kingship? ˹Remember˺ when Abraham said, “My Lord is the One Who has power to give life and cause death.” He argued, “I too have the power to give life and cause death.” Abraham challenged ˹him˺, “Allah causes the sun to rise from the east. So make it rise from the west.” And so the disbeliever was dumbstruck. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."

This is a conversation between Prophet Abraham and an Idiot.
If you have comprehension problem, I simplify for you:

Abraham: “My Lord is the One Who has power to give life and cause death.”

Idiot: “I too have the power to give life and cause death.”

Abraham: “Allah causes the sun to rise from the east. So make it rise from the west.”

So now where does it mentions the earth not moving?

 

[duluxe]

Quran 2:258


Abraham: “Allah causes the sun to rise from the east. So make it rise from the west.”

So now where does it mentions the earth not moving?

Will you be sure that the sun going to rise from the east the next day? (You say the SUN is moving aka swimming)