Is Singapore the only Chinese-majority country outside of China?

[Victory2016]

In countries where Chinese immigrants were not persecuted, they assimilated with the locals, losing their Chinese identity- eg Thailand
In countries where they were persecuted or not accepted, the Chinese kept their identity as Chinese - eg Malaysia, Indonesia
in Singapore where they are the majority, they evolved into another Race - Banana Chinese - yellow on the outside, white wannabe on the inside

 

[eatshitndie]

In countries where Chinese immigrants were not persecuted, they assimilated with the locals, losing their Chinese identity- eg Thailand
In countries where they were persecuted or not accepted, the Chinese kept their identity as Chinese - eg Malaysia, Indonesia
in Singapore where they are the majority, they evolved into another Race - Banana Chinese - yellow on the outside, white wannabe on the inside

not all bananas. it’s a tropical cocktail of fruit: pineapples, mangos, coconuts, durians, jackfruits, papayas, rambutans. 69% soft and watery on the inside.

 

[Nice-Gook]

Thank you! Ever since i was a boy, all i ever heard was lee kong chian, tan kah kee, lee kong chian, tan kah kee. Tan lark sye's good name has been whitwashed from sinkie history by the scums in white. Never heard of him until a few years ago when i googled his name out of curiosity, when i saw his name stated as a past president of hokkein huay kuan on its website.

yup,as we say history is a pack of lies that are agreed upon ...victorious usually write their version and narratives as history

but i am not gonna fault men in white either....yes,i have a lot of axe to grind too...but overall PAP did quite well too

here is my take why people of Tan Lark Sye stature and men in white didn't get along that well...there was anothet divide among the chinese not known to the current generation...
you see,LKY ,Goh Keng Swee and most of the who and who of the chinese decent who were the educated lot and in the civil service were the Babas aka straits born chinese...whreas the towkays like Tan Serk Lye were called the Chinamen whose roots were in China and most were the 1st generation of migrant themselves

the Babas despised these so called Chinamen and wouldn't want to associate themselves with such Chinamen

I am in no way saying that such bigotry is the only reason for the political divide and every thing must attributed to such ...but psycholgically it did play a huge part

it was LKY who broke or rather bridge that divide ...my reason being ..during our Japanese occupation LKY realised his upper upbringing as a baba did not cut any ice with the japanese...and that the japanese lump the babas and any other chinamen as one....and for this reason ,he turned David Marshall advantage of granting citizenships to chinamen who will vote for him to his...LKY tuned to the majority chinamen voters by having powerful Hokkien orators .

Even much much earlier to LKY era ...there was a great divide even among the earliest migrants from china to Singapore..till today the greatest riot the ever occured in Sinkieland is not the racial between the Malays and Chinese in the 60s nor the religious between the Muslims and British christians in the 50s....but between the Hokkiens and Teochews ...when more than a thousand died and a few more thousand injured....they never saw themselves as one chinese race..similarly people of other chinese dialect group too

 

[Sideswipe]

SG chinese country ? it is a constitutional mudland country with banana chinese majority who proudly speak bad english. the founding father was the peoples traitor who worked as an intelligence staff for the japanese invaders during ww2.

 

[hofmann]

Even much much earlier to LKY era ...there was a great divide even among the earliest migrants from china to Singapore..till today the greatest riot the ever occured in Sinkieland is not the racial between the Malays and Chinese in the 60s nor the religious between the Muslims and British christians in the 50s....but between the Hokkiens and Teochews ...when more than a thousand died and a few more thousand injured....they never saw themselves as one chinese race..similarly people of other chinese dialect group too

thanks for sharing history lesson. do you have any source that says 1000s were killed? the official recordes seems to say that 500 or so died, but i wouldn't be surprised if the "official number" was downplayed or under-recorded. seems like the teochews were the troublemakers.

Hokkien-Teochew Riots (1854)
by _People:Yong, Chun Yuan

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The Hokkien-Teochew Riots, also known as the Great Riots of 1854 or the Five Catties of Rice Riots, began on 5 May 1854. The riots stemmed from conflicts between the Hokkien and Teochew communities in Singapore. It was also suggested that secret societies were involved in the riots, especially the Ngee Heng (Ghee Hin) society, which had splintered into Hokkien and Teochew branches, but the extent of their involvement is uncertain.1 The riots lasted for at least 10 days, and led to the death of approximately 500 people and the destruction of some 300 homes. The riots are considered to be one of the most severe outbreaks of violent conflict within the Chinese community in 19th-century Singapore.2

Background
In the early 1850s, conflict between the Hokkien and Teochew communities arose over the control of pepper and gambier plantations, as well as lucrative revenue farms attached to them. The Hokkien merchant community’s increasing dominance in this economic sector was noticed, leading to dissatisfaction among the Teochews.3 This coincided with a period of rice shortages and high rice prices due to reduced imports from Java.4

At the same time, an unusually large number of Chinese immigrants had arrived in Singapore in 1853. Many of these immigrants were members of the Xiao Dao Hui (Short Dagger Sect) that had fled to Singapore after participating in a failed rebellion in Amoy against the Qing imperial government. These political refugees were well armed and considered to be more predisposed to violence than other Chinese immigrants, who mainly came to Singapore seeking employment.5 European observer C. B. Buckley reported that disagreements emerged when the local Hokkien community refused to join in a subscription fund to aid the rebels, of whom a majority were reportedly Teochew. This caused tension between the Hokkien and Teochew communities.6

Outbreak of violence
Violence first erupted on 5 May over a dispute between a Hokkien shopkeeper and a Teochew buyer regarding the price of rice.7 The argument drew the attention of bystanders, who took sides based on their affiliations, thus escalating the situation. This resulted in intense street fighting between the two communities. Shops were smashed and looted amid the chaos.8

Upon the first outburst of violence, Police Superintendent Thomas Dunman called for military reinforcements to supplement the police force, but Governor William Butterworth, who failed to comprehend the gravity of the situation, overruled his initial requests.9 Instead, Butterworth took it upon himself to survey the troubled areas, whereupon he was attacked by a mob.10

When it became evident that the police force was unequal to the task of suppressing the riots, the military as well as contingents of marines from British men-of-war, berthed in the harbour, were summoned to aid in restoring order. European volunteers were also appointed as special constables to help contain the spread of violence.11 Influential Chinese businessmen and community leaders, such as Tan Kim Seng, rendered assistance by mediating with the headmen of the various secret societies.12 An appeal was also made to the Temenggong of Johore for assistance; in response, he sent 200 Malay soldiers as reinforcements.13

Despite these efforts, the rioting continued to spread from the town to the rural areas after the first two days, to areas such as Paya Lebar, Siglap and Bukit Timah where many Chinese resided. Colonial reports suggested that the violence in the countryside was more intense and killings more widespread than they had been in the town area.14 On 10 May, five days after the start of the riots, the colonial authorities implemented a new course of action. Divisions of troops were transported by steamer to the corners of the island, from where they marched towards the town areas. The move caught the rioters by surprise and was effective in quelling unrest in the countryside.15

Resolution and aftermath
In total, the riots lasted more than 10 days. While contemporary observers differed in their estimates, records indicate that approximately 500 persons were killed and 300 homes destroyed. In total, some 500 people were arrested, but only about 250 could be identified and tried. Following 17 days of trial, six men were sentenced to death and two were eventually executed.16 It was also recorded that 30 junks sailed away for China on 13 May; this was observed as the departure of the unwelcome immigrants.17

 

[Nice-Gook]

thanks for sharing history lesson. do you have any source that says 1000s were killed? the official recordes seems to say that 500 or so died, but i wouldn't be surprised if the "official number" was downplayed or under-recorded. seems like the teochews were the troublemakers.

Hokkien-Teochew Riots (1854)
by _People:Yong, Chun Yuan

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The Hokkien-Teochew Riots, also known as the Great Riots of 1854 or the Five Catties of Rice Riots, began on 5 May 1854. The riots stemmed from conflicts between the Hokkien and Teochew communities in Singapore. It was also suggested that secret societies were involved in the riots, especially the Ngee Heng (Ghee Hin) society, which had splintered into Hokkien and Teochew branches, but the extent of their involvement is uncertain.1 The riots lasted for at least 10 days, and led to the death of approximately 500 people and the destruction of some 300 homes. The riots are considered to be one of the most severe outbreaks of violent conflict within the Chinese community in 19th-century Singapore.2

Background
In the early 1850s, conflict between the Hokkien and Teochew communities arose over the control of pepper and gambier plantations, as well as lucrative revenue farms attached to them. The Hokkien merchant community’s increasing dominance in this economic sector was noticed, leading to dissatisfaction among the Teochews.3 This coincided with a period of rice shortages and high rice prices due to reduced imports from Java.4

At the same time, an unusually large number of Chinese immigrants had arrived in Singapore in 1853. Many of these immigrants were members of the Xiao Dao Hui (Short Dagger Sect) that had fled to Singapore after participating in a failed rebellion in Amoy against the Qing imperial government. These political refugees were well armed and considered to be more predisposed to violence than other Chinese immigrants, who mainly came to Singapore seeking employment.5 European observer C. B. Buckley reported that disagreements emerged when the local Hokkien community refused to join in a subscription fund to aid the rebels, of whom a majority were reportedly Teochew. This caused tension between the Hokkien and Teochew communities.6

Outbreak of violence
Violence first erupted on 5 May over a dispute between a Hokkien shopkeeper and a Teochew buyer regarding the price of rice.7 The argument drew the attention of bystanders, who took sides based on their affiliations, thus escalating the situation. This resulted in intense street fighting between the two communities. Shops were smashed and looted amid the chaos.8

Upon the first outburst of violence, Police Superintendent Thomas Dunman called for military reinforcements to supplement the police force, but Governor William Butterworth, who failed to comprehend the gravity of the situation, overruled his initial requests.9 Instead, Butterworth took it upon himself to survey the troubled areas, whereupon he was attacked by a mob.10

When it became evident that the police force was unequal to the task of suppressing the riots, the military as well as contingents of marines from British men-of-war, berthed in the harbour, were summoned to aid in restoring order. European volunteers were also appointed as special constables to help contain the spread of violence.11 Influential Chinese businessmen and community leaders, such as Tan Kim Seng, rendered assistance by mediating with the headmen of the various secret societies.12 An appeal was also made to the Temenggong of Johore for assistance; in response, he sent 200 Malay soldiers as reinforcements.13

Despite these efforts, the rioting continued to spread from the town to the rural areas after the first two days, to areas such as Paya Lebar, Siglap and Bukit Timah where many Chinese resided. Colonial reports suggested that the violence in the countryside was more intense and killings more widespread than they had been in the town area.14 On 10 May, five days after the start of the riots, the colonial authorities implemented a new course of action. Divisions of troops were transported by steamer to the corners of the island, from where they marched towards the town areas. The move caught the rioters by surprise and was effective in quelling unrest in the countryside.15

Resolution and aftermath
In total, the riots lasted more than 10 days. While contemporary observers differed in their estimates, records indicate that approximately 500 persons were killed and 300 homes destroyed. In total, some 500 people were arrested, but only about 250 could be identified and tried. Following 17 days of trial, six men were sentenced to death and two were eventually executed.16 It was also recorded that 30 junks sailed away for China on 13 May; this was observed as the departure of the unwelcome immigrants.17

please take my words with a pinch of salt ..i am neither a reliable historian nor had bore witness to any of the past events ..nobody alive today can bear witness either ...does 500 or 1000 death matters where the thrust is that the rioters were chinese and not for religious or racial factors?...now,my recollections is based in having read here and there ...may i suggest 2 books to read ...both avilable in the National Library ..think its titled The 100 years History of Singapore or something like that ...1 written by an ang moh and another written by a prominent baba chinese lawyer ..Both authored and written before LKY was born ...fantastic insights

now ,coming to quarrelsome Teochews part...my take is that the Hokkiens arrived in our shores first among the Chinese...the Teochews were last ...which explains why Teochews were pushed to furthest inland domicile like Punggol and etc.And the jobs done by Teochews stinks like fisherfolks competing with the native Malays....in essence the fight between the Teochews and Hokkiens were exactly the same as ours now between h ourselves and the new citizens or PRs even if our races are the same

than the chinese as the quarrelsome thingy ...thats exactly how the British saw the ethnic chinese ...the British wanted the chinese as residents here who works their ass out both as cheap coolies with enterprunialskills and also as a middlemen between the native malays since the British do not want a knowledgeable natives either ,..but never fully trusted the chinese and considered them as the most trouble makers...this is where i suspect the British preference wss for local born baba chinese over migrant chinamen

and that the chinese were more quarrelsome among them as a dialect groups ...the very reason why triads survived based on dialects ...this was even a bigger headache for the administration ...eg ,if a hokkien policeman arrested a teochew criminal the next immediate thingy is a riot between themselves...the very reason why the British brought in Sikh regiments from India to police locals...not only in Sinkiland but HK and Shanghai too

 

[mojito]

Not really, Sinkieland is a highly strategic spot in the upcoming US-China war.

It's not the number of Chinese folks, many of whom were born and bred living here for generations, but rather the degree of infiltration by the Chicoms in the media and in certain industries. Abetted by a feckless and malleable leeder.

SG is far less important than you think, seeing how the chicoms funded construction of an entire city with its own deepwater port right across the Tuas checkpoint.

 

[JohnTan]

SG is far less important than you think, seeing how the chicoms funded construction of an entire city with its own deepwater port right across the Tuas checkpoint.

That city is ultimately governed by jiuhu and its islamic concepts. That city is doomed to failure. Even the johor sultan knows how retarded the jiuhu shariah system and values are, and he's fighting a losing battle to keep his local islamists in check.

 

[mojito]

That city is ultimately governed by jiuhu and its islamic concepts. That city is doomed to failure. Even the johor sultan knows how retarded the jiuhu shariah system and values are, and he's fighting a losing battle to keep his local islamists in check.

Better not be so sure john. Did you forget what happened in Sri Lanka's Hanbanthotta port? Dr M pleading tolong for rail project with the CCP before he was ousted as PM. Who knows whats on the mind of this moo moo din now that container shipping has come to a standstill?

 

[nayr69sg]

thanks for sharing history lesson. do you have any source that says 1000s were killed? the official recordes seems to say that 500 or so died, but i wouldn't be surprised if the "official number" was downplayed or under-recorded. seems like the teochews were the troublemakers.

Hokkien-Teochew Riots (1854)
by _People:Yong, Chun Yuan

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The Hokkien-Teochew Riots, also known as the Great Riots of 1854 or the Five Catties of Rice Riots, began on 5 May 1854. The riots stemmed from conflicts between the Hokkien and Teochew communities in Singapore. It was also suggested that secret societies were involved in the riots, especially the Ngee Heng (Ghee Hin) society, which had splintered into Hokkien and Teochew branches, but the extent of their involvement is uncertain.1 The riots lasted for at least 10 days, and led to the death of approximately 500 people and the destruction of some 300 homes. The riots are considered to be one of the most severe outbreaks of violent conflict within the Chinese community in 19th-century Singapore.2

Background
In the early 1850s, conflict between the Hokkien and Teochew communities arose over the control of pepper and gambier plantations, as well as lucrative revenue farms attached to them. The Hokkien merchant community’s increasing dominance in this economic sector was noticed, leading to dissatisfaction among the Teochews.3 This coincided with a period of rice shortages and high rice prices due to reduced imports from Java.4

At the same time, an unusually large number of Chinese immigrants had arrived in Singapore in 1853. Many of these immigrants were members of the Xiao Dao Hui (Short Dagger Sect) that had fled to Singapore after participating in a failed rebellion in Amoy against the Qing imperial government. These political refugees were well armed and considered to be more predisposed to violence than other Chinese immigrants, who mainly came to Singapore seeking employment.5 European observer C. B. Buckley reported that disagreements emerged when the local Hokkien community refused to join in a subscription fund to aid the rebels, of whom a majority were reportedly Teochew. This caused tension between the Hokkien and Teochew communities.6

Outbreak of violence
Violence first erupted on 5 May over a dispute between a Hokkien shopkeeper and a Teochew buyer regarding the price of rice.7 The argument drew the attention of bystanders, who took sides based on their affiliations, thus escalating the situation. This resulted in intense street fighting between the two communities. Shops were smashed and looted amid the chaos.8

Upon the first outburst of violence, Police Superintendent Thomas Dunman called for military reinforcements to supplement the police force, but Governor William Butterworth, who failed to comprehend the gravity of the situation, overruled his initial requests.9 Instead, Butterworth took it upon himself to survey the troubled areas, whereupon he was attacked by a mob.10

When it became evident that the police force was unequal to the task of suppressing the riots, the military as well as contingents of marines from British men-of-war, berthed in the harbour, were summoned to aid in restoring order. European volunteers were also appointed as special constables to help contain the spread of violence.11 Influential Chinese businessmen and community leaders, such as Tan Kim Seng, rendered assistance by mediating with the headmen of the various secret societies.12 An appeal was also made to the Temenggong of Johore for assistance; in response, he sent 200 Malay soldiers as reinforcements.13

Despite these efforts, the rioting continued to spread from the town to the rural areas after the first two days, to areas such as Paya Lebar, Siglap and Bukit Timah where many Chinese resided. Colonial reports suggested that the violence in the countryside was more intense and killings more widespread than they had been in the town area.14 On 10 May, five days after the start of the riots, the colonial authorities implemented a new course of action. Divisions of troops were transported by steamer to the corners of the island, from where they marched towards the town areas. The move caught the rioters by surprise and was effective in quelling unrest in the countryside.15

Resolution and aftermath
In total, the riots lasted more than 10 days. While contemporary observers differed in their estimates, records indicate that approximately 500 persons were killed and 300 homes destroyed. In total, some 500 people were arrested, but only about 250 could be identified and tried. Following 17 days of trial, six men were sentenced to death and two were eventually executed.16 It was also recorded that 30 junks sailed away for China on 13 May; this was observed as the departure of the unwelcome immigrants.17

I can imagine all the KNN being shouted all over in hokkien!

Lol!

Cantonese no riot?

 

[nayr69sg]

please take my words with a pinch of salt ..i am neither a reliable historian nor had bore witness to any of the past events ..nobody alive today can bear witness either ...does 500 or 1000 death matters where the thrust is that the rioters were chinese and not for religious or racial factors?...now,my recollections is based in having read here and there ...may i suggest 2 books to read ...both avilable in the National Library ..think its titled The 100 years History of Singapore or something like that ...1 written by an ang moh and another written by a prominent baba chinese lawyer ..Both authored and written before LKY was born ...fantastic insights

now ,coming to quarrelsome Teochews part...my take is that the Hokkiens arrived in our shores first among the Chinese...the Teochews were last ...which explains why Teochews were pushed to furthest inland domicile like Punggol and etc.And the jobs done by Teochews stinks like fisherfolks competing with the native Malays....in essence the fight between the Teochews and Hokkiens were exactly the same as ours now between h ourselves and the new citizens or PRs even if our races are the same

than the chinese as the quarrelsome thingy ...thats exactly how the British saw the ethnic chinese ...the British wanted the chinese as residents here who works their ass out both as cheap coolies with enterprunialskills and also as a middlemen between the native malays since the British do not want a knowledgeable natives either ,..but never fully trusted the chinese and considered them as the most trouble makers...this is where i suspect the British preference wss for local born baba chinese over migrant chinamen

and that the chinese were more quarrelsome among them as a dialect groups ...the very reason why triads survived based on dialects ...this was even a bigger headache for the administration ...eg ,if a hokkien policeman arrested a teochew criminal the next immediate thingy is a riot between themselves...the very reason why the British brought in Sikh regiments from India to police locals...not only in Sinkiland but HK and Shanghai too

What about cantonese?

 

[JohnTan]

Better not be so sure john. Did you forget what happened in Sri Lanka's Hanbanthotta port? Dr M pleading tolong for rail project with the CCP before he was ousted as PM. Who knows whats on the mind of this moo moo din now that container shipping has come to a standstill?

moomoo ding came into power with islamists backing. It would be quite a story if he backstabbed them and had them all imprisoned, vanished or executed.

The more likely scenario would be moomoo ding bringing back the status quo by restoring UMNO's policies, with a bit of islamist PAS flavour by putting in place a ban of non-moslem, including christian bumi, holding any key leadership position in malaysia.

 

[Nice-Gook]

What about cantonese?

Cantonese eh ? couldnt recall anything historically significant as of now..till something jerks my memory ...you see ,i have to rely on my memory power which is not exactly on Giga bites..

my guesstimate is that the Cantonese already had a strong stake in the British held HK so Sinkiland was just secondary to them .How ever, cantonese do have a strong presence in KL now

chinese in the earlier days migrated and occupied particular areas and jobs on village basis and thus dialects basis ...even our foreign workers whether from bangla or Indonesian also operate on the same basis today , almost all our Indon maids are from java tenggah ..prostitutes of the past hetec were mostly cantonese if that interests you

...a significant ethnic chinese residing in kalimantan malaysia are hock chiews and its the Teochews who are the significant ones in Thailand and Cambodia...think ,Mynmmar belongs to Hakkas ...at least the Chinese in India are Hakkas

the Hakkas played a major role in Malaysia ..they were brought for their skills in tin mining ...the founder of KL Mr Yap is a Hakka and so were many Kapitan Cina who were the heads of chinese appointed by the Sultan

and LKY is a Hakka Baba ancestory from the Palembang of Indonnesia

of course ,i am subjected to correction ...as i am no historian of any significance and sometimes you have take a ton of salt with my version of history

 

[ThePimp]

I would prefer to say if not for LKY and his first team of cabinet ministers and dedicated top civil servants, all of us would still be living in slums.

Were you around when there was no modern sanitation in S'pore and for drinking water you need to collect it from public standpipes.

Collecting water together would certainly build the kampong spirit.

 

[ThePimp]

awww,come on ! as if politician are tea tottlers and goody good shoes ? who never fall for women ?

goh Keng swee ? bakar ?

all have their weakness...tunku abdul Rahman was the worst among the lot ...who wine ,dine ,womanised and gambled openly

To be fair to GKS, he did fall for only one woman, and she took good care of him.

 

[PretenderSam]

Guess which country would be the first to get eaten by the CCP if the world fails to stop them. And you thought the PAP was bad.

y u hav to stir shit with suc tye of idiotic allegation ? Water or shit seeped into your brain ?

China’s aggressive new move in the South China Sea brings region closer to brink of war

This shows your brain is filled with shit or water. The americunts has more than 800 military bases around the world. It had been using its military might to pressure japan , south korea and european cuntries to accede to its demands. Do u think japan willing signed the Plaza Accord ? Americunt had gone to wars with few middle east countries and vietnam. americunt had sponsored and actively carried covert operations in order to cause a "regime change" in other countries.
Before you take about democracy in americunt , i advise you to search the web to really understand what is americunt's democracy.

Those hong kong and taiwan idiots opposed and protested against the so called one county two system arrangement , waving the americunt flag , wanting to join the usa. These idiots are just like you , not knowing that united states of americunt is actually based on a one country two systems.

So idiots like u consent that it is ok for americunt to keep developing its military hardware and to have 800 military bases arounf the world
, this is deemed not threatening. For china to develop it military and build a few off shore bases is deemed to be aggressive and it is
china first step in its plan to conquer the whole world.

 

[glockman]

y u hav to stir shit with suc tye of idiotic allegation ? Water or shit seeped into your brain ?



This shows your brain is filled with shit or water. The americunts has more than 800 military bases around the world. It had been using its military might to pressure japan , south korea and european cuntries to accede to its demands. Do u think japan willing signed the Plaza Accord ? Americunt had gone to wars with few middle east countries and vietnam. americunt had sponsored and actively carried covert operations in order to cause a "regime change" in other countries.
Before you take about democracy in americunt , i advise you to search the web to really understand what is americunt's democracy.

Those hong kong and taiwan idiots opposed and protested against the so called one county two system arrangement , waving the americunt flag , wanting to join the usa. These idiots are just like you , not knowing that united states of americunt is actually based on a one country two systems.

So idiots like u consent that it is ok for americunt to keep developing its military hardware and to have 800 military bases arounf the world
, this is deemed not threatening. For china to develop it military and build a few off shore bases is deemed to be aggressive and it is
china first step in its plan to conquer the whole world.

Wow thank you so much for your insightful post! I am smarter now because of you. I am forever indebted.

 

[KNNBPCB]

I don't think so. He is not married. Mark Andrew Yeo's wife is a slut.

Any pictures to share?

 

[PretenderSam]

Wow thank you so much for your insightful post! I am smarter now because of you. I am forever indebted.

dont have to be a sarcastic ass. If you adore and admire americunt , go ahead and praise it sky high. Certainly nobody will
give a damn. But dont denigrate any country just because you worship americunt.

 

[glockman]

dont have to be a sarcastic ass. If you adore and admire americunt , go ahead and praise it sky high. Certainly nobody will
give a damn. But dont denigrate any country just because you worship americunt.

Show gratitude to you cannot, fuck you also cannot. You commie dick-sucking fuckers are hard to please.

denigrate any country? Errr, does it not yet appear obvious to you that we are referring only to red China? Your motherland.