Is opposition capable of taking over government?

[Forvendet]

That's one of the reasons why I kept saying Chee is PAP's mole.

No he's not. He works for CALD, but the agenda is still to lose election and keep others losing election too. Then they keep their their niche of pandering to their donors and sponsors which love listening to stories about despotism, oppression etc. Notice WP mind their own business with focus on how to contest PAP. SDP pick on nits and bits about WP. They have to ensure WP don't win too many seats too. If WP or other parties win too many seats, SDP and CALD theme of fighting for democracy collapses. Notice the glossy professional production of their brochures and videos. These are very costly commercial standards. All these from a party with half their CEC members bankrupted.

 

[Char_Azn]

you have no proof, what you say are just theories, guesses and assumptions.

use facts and evidences to theorize, not theorize to prove facts.

U're talking like any of the accusations in here made against PAP, GMS, NSP and not as often against WP and Chiam have facts and evidence. Chee however have been shown to be a proven Liar by both PAP and the opposition

 

[IR123]

NSP was founded by TCK to three-corner contest Marine Parade BE 1992 against JBJ to split the votes and rearguard to a respectable winning margin for GCT. Eventually, JBJ didn't contest as situation got messy, in came CSJ for multi-corner. You trust these people who tried to rob JBJ of his return from disqualification, then claim to be JBJ supporter and admirer, and even sob sob at his funeral? GMS is obviously not let into the plot, NSP just happily use him as a puppet front. The more moronic he gets in public, the happier are the powers-that-be that pulling the strings.

Sorry, i do not know the history.

 

[IR123]

And pray tell, how does he intend to do that? First and foremost, he and half his CEC are disqualified. If you look that those left in SDP who're eligible to stand, the most is 1 GRC and 1 SMC. Even if they win, the only way for them to form a government is to rebel and declare independence. Then LKY prophecy may come true, we'll see some tanks rolling.

There is no law against having a goal and working to make it come true. CSJ has touched on events, some of which has impacted people's lives whilst the other politicians much lauded here either kept silent or hmmm, heee and hawed.

 

[Forvendet]

There is no law against having a goal and working to make it come true. CSJ has touched on events, some of which has impacted people's lives whilst the other politicians much lauded here either kept silent or hmmm, heee and hawed.

Exactly, he panders to people who likes to listen to fairy tales to soothe personal grievances. Other real opposition get things done. Tell me exactly how is SDP going to make all those fairy tales come true? It's up to you. For me, I look at what an opposition can possibly and reasonably do, not just what's said. I myself could easily draft a flowery manifesto and generous budget and give a rousing oratory. If you vote for me, sorry to say, you're damn silly. I can't get it done.

 

[Char_Azn]

There is no law against having a goal and working to make it come true. CSJ has touched on events, some of which has impacted people's lives whilst the other politicians much lauded here either kept silent or hmmm, heee and hawed.

What you mean to say is he make a lot of noise about nothing, never work on actually trying to win in the election and complains and blames the system when he doesn't gets anything done.

What has Chee managed to accomplished since he took over the helm of SDP? Cause SDP to turn from number 1 opposition party to a joke.

Got arrested for breaking the law knowingly giving the entire opposition cause a bad name

Make baseless accusations he cannot prove and in the process got sued for defamation.

Along the way idiots who joined him in his worthless cause also got into trouble

Are those what you mean by impacting lives.

Chiam and Low may not be very outspoken in Parliament but 1 statement makes more waves in 1 Parliament session then what Chee managed to do in 10 years. Low, Chiam, Steve Chia and Sylvia Lim all managed to get into Parliament as an MP and NMP and all made more of an impact during their term in Parliament then what Chee have ever managed to do during his entire political career.

Maybe Chee should stop complaining about the system, stop making a fool of himself and actually try getting elected

 

[steffychun]

To even be an opposition is the Westminister Style of govt, you need to form a sizeable opposition which has a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Cabinet_of_the_United_Kingdom Shadow Cabinet (ie. some one shadowing the govt's PM, DPM, Defence etc). Then when you get enough votes, your shadow cabinet becomes a real cabinet.

So if say LTK's WP wins enough votes, or Chee and his gang enter parliament, they must form a shadow cabinet of themselves.

 

[IR123]

Seems like both of you have quite a big chip on your shoulder regarding CSJ, which goes into the personal. I guess you won't be voting for him.

Char Azn, till today i wonder what it is that Chiam did in Parliament that CSJ cannot do in 10 years. You seem to think that Chiam is so accomplish a politician. But what exactly did he do to deserve such an accolade?

I can understand if you say Low did well in Parliament. He plough on and on. But Chiam? When did he get his stroke? Talk about his achievements before his stroke. I remembered Scroobal said something like Chiam caused the PAP to do compulsory education (or something like that).

Put that into perspective and you will find decades later, GMS will claim to have an influence on HDB policies. Which can be argued. And he did that out of Parliament!

The question then is: do politicians live on their past achievements or are they involved in the present? CSJ is involved (even if you do not like the manner he is involved). Is Chiam involved?

Consider also if SDA / SDP had been involved in the people's issues? Refresh us with his involvement or his party's involvement in the needs of the people.

 

[IR123]

Exactly, he panders to people who likes to listen to fairy tales to soothe personal grievances. Other real opposition get things done. Tell me exactly how is SDP going to make all those fairy tales come true? It's up to you. For me, I look at what an opposition can possibly and reasonably do, not just what's said. I myself could easily draft a flowery manifesto and generous budget and give a rousing oratory. If you vote for me, sorry to say, you're damn silly. I can't get it done.

Personally i believe that CSJ is barking up the wrong tree. However it is equally bad to throw in the towel like what the other opposition did.

I suppose your last statement is rhetorical. Just in case it is not, i will say that rousing oratory will not influence me. If it did, I would have believed in the mainstream oppositions for 9 days out of five years.

And that, as you said, makes you damn silly.

 

[Forvendet]

Seems like both of you have quite a big chip on your shoulder regarding CSJ, which goes into the personal. I guess you won't be voting for him.

I don't guess, I'm sure you won't be voting for him also.

 

[silverfox@]

Personally i believe that CSJ is barking up the wrong tree. However it is equally bad to throw in the towel like what the other opposition did.

I suppose your last statement is rhetorical. Just in case it is not, i will say that rousing oratory will not influence me. If it did, I would have believed in the mainstream oppositions for 9 days out of five years.

And that, as you said, makes you damn silly.

I still cannot forget the day I saw CSJ shouting across the hawker centre asking GCT, "WHERE IS THE MONEY".

The way he acted is still etched in my memory.

 

[denzuko1]

it is a wrong question to ask, because it limits the brain to only yes and no, one is never ready umtil you are put into the position. what the oppsition needs to ask instead is how they should function when they take over the government.

 

[Qantas]

I don't think any of them, except possibly CSJ, thinks they can form an alternative government.

You forgot KJ who keeps saying that their intention was to form the government ONE day. With the way he is running RP I think that ONE day will be very long away.

 

[IR123]

I still cannot forget the day I saw CSJ shouting across the hawker centre asking GCT, "WHERE IS THE MONEY".

The way he acted is still etched in my memory.

That sounds demented.

 

[IR123]

I don't guess, I'm sure you won't be voting for him also.

You are right.

 

[SDPhopelessParty]

SDP score above 30% in any seats, you chop off your lanjiao. on?

if they is a 3 corner fight, "betree SDP, WP" PAP. Street Demonstration Party surely lost the deposit! would
you chop off your lanjiao. on?

 

[steffychun]

Chee as PM? America would thne invade Singapore.