How do you vote, really?

[Cruxx]

I voted with my feet. I wouldn't have returned to Sinkieland if not for my folks.

 

[Sideswipe]

I agree. At best, they will know what percentage of which block of flats (or district, or clusters) voted for incumbent and opposition. Voters fear being traced, and I don't recall the PAP going all out to allay this fear. All they will say is your vote is secret. But voters can't shake this off in this climate of fear.

think PAP and oppositions both know the block of flats or districts voting percentages.

how should PAP go out to allay those paranoid voters fears?
I suggest LHL go Kuan Yin temple and take a 毒誓. If PAP ever open the sealed ballot boxes after GE, he LHL will choke to death on fish balls or fall to his death by slipping on banana skins...

 

[Ramseth]

I suggest LHL go Kuan Yin temple and take a 毒t誓. If PAP ever open the ballot boxes, he LHL will choke to death on fish balls or fall to his death by slipping on banana skins...

What for? You rely on superstition instead of fact in practice? After counting, the ballot boxes are sealed and vaulted for six months, then incinerated, in front of both PAP and opposition candidates, agents and officials. If you vote for Kuan Yin to protect you, Muslims would vote for Allah, Hindus would vote for Krishna and Christians would vote for Jesus.

 

[Sideswipe]

What for? You rely on superstition instead of fact in practice? After counting, the ballot boxes are sealed and vaulted for six months, then incinerated, in front of both PAP and opposition candidates, agents and officials. If you vote for Kuan Yin to protect you, Muslims would vote for Allah, Hindus would vote for Krishna and Christians would vote for Jesus.

just a joke.

one can't convince those conspiracy theories believers on this fact no matter how hard one tried.

 

[GoldenDragon]

What for? You rely on superstition instead of fact in practice? After counting, the ballot boxes are sealed and vaulted for six months, then incinerated, in front of both PAP and opposition candidates, agents and officials. If you vote for Kuan Yin to protect you, Muslims would vote for Allah, Hindus would vote for Krishna and Christians would vote for Jesus.

Forgot to check with you - did SL show up?

 

[Ramseth]

Forgot to check with you - did SL show up?

I also didn't show up. My bodyguard reported sick. LTK also didn't show up.

 

[Perspective]

Do you vote for just any opposition candidate, or do you vote for just any PAP candidate, or do you take a good look at the candidates and the parties contesting in order to decide?

I would clearly not vote PAP. However I've been pondering about spoiling my vote recently for one or two men parties. These people are bringing opposition politics back to the 80s. If I voted for the ant opposition, they won't be jolted to the fact that I want teams, not egos, to represent me in the opposition.

Overthecounter had an issue, but doesn't realize how that hampers his favourite party, the SDP. Many of these splinters like USD, SF and now SUP are people close or individually allied to the SDP. If this was intentional on SDP's part, tell me why I have to vote for a party that stupidly splinters itself. If it is due to the ego of splinter parties, then I don't see how spoiling my vote for the splinters but not SDP will harm the SDP.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

I also didn't show up. My bodyguard reported sick. LTK also didn't show up.

You don't need a bodyguard. You need an escort.

 

[Ramseth]

You don't need a bodyguard. You need an escort.

Everybody around here long enough knows I have two bodyguards who look like going to kill men anytime or rape women anytime. Both drink like whales. One reported sick and one said not sure can make it or not. Not very safe for me to go out without bodyguard. Escort, I neither want nor need. Consort, I don't mind. But one's in HK, one's in Malaysia and one's in Australia. Good also, save money over CNY and V-Day, quite broke already.

 

[scroobal]

The equation significantly changed when the Govt amended the law to allow reserved seats for those who perform reasonably well but did not win a seat outright. In view of the number of seats available, voting for the proverbial bicycle thief is no longer on the cards. It now means the competition within the opposition is now intense.

The fight is no longer is with PAP but within the opposition parties for the 9 seats. You got to give PAP credit for the ingenious way that they have delivered this. Now not only they can secure their monopoly on full MP seats except for one or two but now claim that they have at least 9 opposition members in parliament. Foreigners would have little clue.

 

[Ramseth]

The equation significantly changed when the Govt amended the law to allow reserved seats for those who perform reasonably well but did not win a seat outright. In view of the number of seats available, voting for the proverbial bicycle thief is no longer on the cards. It now means the competition within the opposition is now intense.

The fight is no longer is with PAP but within the opposition parties for the 9 seats. You got to give PAP credit for the ingenious way that they have delivered this. Now not only they can secure their monopoly on full MP seats except for one or two but now claim that they have at least 9 opposition members in parliament. Foreigners would have little clue.

I've got to give you credit for seeing this and pointing this out. This may be root cause to the intra-opposition anymosity that we're seeing gathering steam instead of unity

 

[scroobal]

I did not realise it until recent comments by a certain 2006 candidate from an opposition party. Initially I could not figure out why this chap who is quite a fair person started passing harsh comments about other opposition candidates but became very defensive and paranoid about his own side. More is at stake as one of his kin is also expected to contest and is close to the leader.

Money and power does make the world go around. I suppose when you are close to the action, you sub-consciously behave in a manner that is out character.

A similar thing happened within the civil service after the the era of Bogaars, Hosctadt, Pillay, Sim etc. With the high remuneration now, no senior civil servants wants to rock the boat.

He is not the only one, as you correctly pointed there is tension in the air. I once brushed aside the comment about the SPP spilt was due to this. Now I think it does have merit.

If you take 2006 results and apply the new formula, the results for NCMP places will be
1) Sylvia - WP
2) WP -Aljunied
3) Steve Chia - SDA
4) WP - East Coast GRC
5) WP - East Coast GRC
6) Tan Bin Seng - WP
7) Lian Chin Way - WP
(hope I got the calculations right)

Notice that 6 will come from WP alone and it does not include LTK. Knowing the human mind, I would envisage some level of in-fighting and jockeying for candidate places within WP. The weak ones will try to suck up to LTK. With Reform Party in the mix and with KJ and some quality candidates do expect venom being exchanged between WP and RP.

SDP is certainly out of the race.

Sigh - the deviousness of the PAP.

I've got to give you credit for seeing this and pointing this out. This may be root cause to the intra-opposition anymosity that we're seeing gathering steam instead of unity

 

[GoldenDragon]

If you take 2006 results and apply the new formula, the results for NCMP places will be
1) Sylvia - WP
2) WP -Aljunied
3) Steve Chia - SDA
4) WP - East Coast GRC
5) WP - East Coast GRC
6) Tan Bin Seng - WP
7) Lian Chin Way - WP
(hope I got the calculations right)

Notice that 6 will come from WP alone and it does not include LTK. Knowing the human mind, I would envisage some level of in-fighting and jockeying for candidate places within WP. The weak ones will try to suck up to LTK. With Reform Party in the mix and with KJ and some quality candidates do expect venom being exchanged between WP and RP.

SDP is certainly out of the race.

GMS and NSP?

 

[patrickv]

i will vote for any party that run against PAP.

PAP fuck u. you have sold sporeans out :oIo:

 

[bullfrog]

So like crows fighting over crumbs thrown out by PAP. Divide and rule.

He is not the only one, as you correctly pointed there is tension in the air. I once brushed aside the comment about the SPP spilt was due to this. Now I think it does have merit.

If you take 2006 results and apply the new formula, the results for NCMP places will be
1) Sylvia - WP
2) WP -Aljunied
3) Steve Chia - SDA
4) WP - East Coast GRC
5) WP - East Coast GRC
6) Tan Bin Seng - WP
7) Lian Chin Way - WP
(hope I got the calculations right)

Notice that 6 will come from WP alone and it does not include LTK. Knowing the human mind, I would envisage some level of in-fighting and jockeying for candidate places within WP. The weak ones will try to suck up to LTK. With Reform Party in the mix and with KJ and some quality candidates do expect venom being exchanged between WP and RP.

SDP is certainly out of the race.

Sigh - the deviousness of the PAP.

 

[GoldenDragon]

I also didn't show up. My bodyguard reported sick. LTK also didn't show up.

Don't play, play with you. You have bodyguard(s). They carry arms?

 

[Robert Half]

The equation significantly changed when the Govt amended the law to allow reserved seats for those who perform reasonably well but did not win a seat outright. In view of the number of seats available, voting for the proverbial bicycle thief is no longer on the cards. It now means the competition within the opposition is now intense.

The fight is no longer is with PAP but within the opposition parties for the 9 seats. You got to give PAP credit for the ingenious way that they have delivered this. Now not only they can secure their monopoly on full MP seats except for one or two but now claim that they have at least 9 opposition members in parliament. Foreigners would have little clue.

9 NCMP seats + 9 NMP seats = 18 Non-PAP MP

One hand people can have a PAP MP to serve the ward and on the flipside also NCMP can provide alternate voice in the Parliament

 

[GoldenDragon]

9 NCMP seats + 9 NMP seats = 18 Non-PAP MP

One hand people can have a PAP MP to serve the ward and on the flipside also NCMP can provide alternate voice in the Parliament

That's PAP's strategy coz they anticipate a battle this time. They are now trying to appease the voting populace by giving us reps in Parliament. Reps who can speak but cannot vote.

 

[Robert Half]

That's PAP's strategy coz they anticipate a battle this time. They are now trying to appease the voting populace by giving us reps in Parliament. Reps who can speak but cannot vote.

This strategy help to reduce votes for Oppositions since 9 NCMP seats are assured in the Parliament.

 

[GoldenDragon]

This strategy help to reduce votes for Oppositions since 9 NCMP seats are assured in the Parliament.

Agree with you, sir. PAP don't implement policies for nothing. It is always to their advantage but they will surely sell it as if the public benefits. Sadly, a decent percentage of the populace buys every dish that PAP cooks. Food is almost always rotten, at best.