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Hougang By-Eelection & Impact of YSL Saga II

kukubird58

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I predicted a "soon" Hougang BE, which happened.

I predicted no entry of NSP and TJS, which happened.

I predicted no AMK BE, which happened.

Now I predict a straight fight between Png Eng Huat and Desmond Choo. I also predict victory for WP with drop in margin for WP. Let's see if I can get 5 predictions right in one go.

Moral of the story: don't think too much. Politics is rather predictable.

I make a better analyst, though I hate anals.
hahaha....for those who predictd otherwise......better join the kuku club......lol.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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I don't think so.

Goh Meng Seng

Mr Goh Sir, do you think WP will get into trouble for trying to act blur and keep quiet over their brand new sex scandal, i.e. the one which will result in a WP member going to jail for having sex with that underaged prostitute?

Do you think the media will expose during the BE?
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Where did you get this? Who are you?

Goh Meng Seng

Mr Golden Dragon Sir, you look very knowledgable so I like to ask you about this which some people on Internet have posted. I read it and will be published in a book (or maybe already publish because quite long liow).


"The PAP had been observing Low ever since he won his seat in the August 1991 general elections. The PAP knew of Low's "extracurricular activities" during his overseas "business" trips. It also reasoned that as a Chinese educated, Low would have limited influence over the English educated intelligentsia and electorate. In particular, the PAP saw no way in which Low, as a Chinese educated MP, would have any appeal to the significant 23% minority bloc. It knew of his ambitions and concluded that he was someone the PAP could not only make use off but work with when it became necessary for the PAP to provide a "release valve" for the electorate.

The PAP's lawsuit against Jeyaratnam after the 1997 general elections was a turning point.

In early March 1998, a PAP emissary, one of the Chinese educated MPs, was send to make contact with Low. Low was encouraged to seize the leadership of the WP. Low made racist jokes and references during the secret meeting about Jeyaratnam's "Indian" heritage and offered his view on how much easier it is for a "Chinese to work with a fellow Chinese". With the promised backing of the PAP, an emboldened Low then started his personal campaign to undermine and destabilise the leadership of Jeyaratnam.

The PAP emissary continued to quietly stay in touch with Low. In an April 2001 secret meeting, Low was "officially" chided for being "slow". Low was encouraged to seize the opportunity provided by Jeyaratnam's financial difficulties and to take over WP. Low was given the assurance that the PAP was prepared to and would be able to work with him. He was assured that the PAP would not pursue any further action against WP if he took over the leadership of the WP.

Despite these assurances, Low nevertheless realised that the best way forward for him was not to challenge Jeyaratnam directly. Jeyaratnam was an opposition giant and icon in the eyes of the electorate. Also, the cultural disposition of the Chinese majority and significant Malay voting bloc was that of showing deference to one's elders. Low knew his political career would be in trouble if he had launch a challenge against Jeyaratnam or contested Jeyaratnam for the leadership of the Workers' Party. Hence, he bidded his time. Egged on and aided by the PAP, Low continued with his personal campaign to destabilise and undermine JBJ's leadership by stealth."



Do you now of this? Is if this true and, do it mean Mr Low Thia Khiang also having a PAP handler?
 

Fook Seng

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zhihau said:
me thought the drumbeat should be coming from the ground, and that would be the best pitch.

Bro, somehow you cannot get away from fortune-telling. The drumbeats can tell the fortune. Honestly will the PAP end up in an attack or a defensive mode?
 

Fook Seng

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sleaguepunter said:
for once i agree with you.

i am at hougang ave 5 almost every evening yet i didnt see any walkabout by pap/rc but i did see ah huat a couple of time conducting house to house visit. karaoke session always in progress in 332 RC office.

It is not a public holiday on 26 May. Do you mean there will be a walkover? The PM's speech did not sound like it.
 

goldenmonkey

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Mr Golden Dragon Sir, you look very knowledgable so I like to ask you about this which some people on Internet have posted. I read it and will be published in a book (or maybe already publish because quite long liow).


"The PAP had been observing Low ever since he won his seat in the August 1991 general elections. The PAP knew of Low's "extracurricular activities" during his overseas "business" trips. It also reasoned that as a Chinese educated, Low would have limited influence over the English educated intelligentsia and electorate. In particular, the PAP saw no way in which Low, as a Chinese educated MP, would have any appeal to the significant 23% minority bloc. It knew of his ambitions and concluded that he was someone the PAP could not only make use off but work with when it became necessary for the PAP to provide a "release valve" for the electorate.

The PAP's lawsuit against Jeyaratnam after the 1997 general elections was a turning point.

In early March 1998, a PAP emissary, one of the Chinese educated MPs, was send to make contact with Low. Low was encouraged to seize the leadership of the WP. Low made racist jokes and references during the secret meeting about Jeyaratnam's "Indian" heritage and offered his view on how much easier it is for a "Chinese to work with a fellow Chinese". With the promised backing of the PAP, an emboldened Low then started his personal campaign to undermine and destabilise the leadership of Jeyaratnam.

The PAP emissary continued to quietly stay in touch with Low. In an April 2001 secret meeting, Low was "officially" chided for being "slow". Low was encouraged to seize the opportunity provided by Jeyaratnam's financial difficulties and to take over WP. Low was given the assurance that the PAP was prepared to and would be able to work with him. He was assured that the PAP would not pursue any further action against WP if he took over the leadership of the WP.

Despite these assurances, Low nevertheless realised that the best way forward for him was not to challenge Jeyaratnam directly. Jeyaratnam was an opposition giant and icon in the eyes of the electorate. Also, the cultural disposition of the Chinese majority and significant Malay voting bloc was that of showing deference to one's elders. Low knew his political career would be in trouble if he had launch a challenge against Jeyaratnam or contested Jeyaratnam for the leadership of the Workers' Party. Hence, he bidded his time. Egged on and aided by the PAP, Low continued with his personal campaign to destabilise and undermine JBJ's leadership by stealth."



Do you now of this? Is if this true and, do it mean Mr Low Thia Khiang also having a PAP handler?

If you replace LTK with LKY, PAP with British colonial rulers, JBJ with LCS (Lim Chin Siong), then it would be 90% of the story.
 

goldenmonkey

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If you replace LTK with LKY, PAP with British colonial rulers, JBJ with LCS (Lim Chin Siong), then it would be 90% of the story.

I am a bystander, however, you know this doesn't hold water. How do one explain the defeat in Aljunied in the last GE? Ruling party to get rid of GY?

LTK revolting against his original master? These plots are meant for Taiwanese folk drama. Soapy and unwatchable.

Elections for us commoners should remain as such - vote for the best party and member who would best serve you. Kelongs, brougt-overs, covet actions are meant for Mediacorp productions or WWF.
Don't be clouded.
 

zhihau

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Bro, somehow you cannot get away from fortune-telling. The drumbeats can tell the fortune. Honestly will the PAP end up in an attack or a defensive mode?

so paiseh leh, bro :o:o:o

attack is the best defense they say, their social media IB have been in action, haven't you noticed? :p:p:p
 

yellowarse

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Mr Golden Dragon Sir, you look very knowledgable so I like to ask you about this which some people on Internet have posted. I read it and will be published in a book (or maybe already publish because quite long liow).


"The PAP had been observing Low ever since he won his seat in the August 1991 general elections. The PAP knew of Low's "extracurricular activities" during his overseas "business" trips. It also reasoned that as a Chinese educated, Low would have limited influence over the English educated intelligentsia and electorate. In particular, the PAP saw no way in which Low, as a Chinese educated MP, would have any appeal to the significant 23% minority bloc. It knew of his ambitions and concluded that he was someone the PAP could not only make use off but work with when it became necessary for the PAP to provide a "release valve" for the electorate.

The PAP's lawsuit against Jeyaratnam after the 1997 general elections was a turning point.

In early March 1998, a PAP emissary, one of the Chinese educated MPs, was send to make contact with Low. Low was encouraged to seize the leadership of the WP. Low made racist jokes and references during the secret meeting about Jeyaratnam's "Indian" heritage and offered his view on how much easier it is for a "Chinese to work with a fellow Chinese". With the promised backing of the PAP, an emboldened Low then started his personal campaign to undermine and destabilise the leadership of Jeyaratnam.

The PAP emissary continued to quietly stay in touch with Low. In an April 2001 secret meeting, Low was "officially" chided for being "slow". Low was encouraged to seize the opportunity provided by Jeyaratnam's financial difficulties and to take over WP. Low was given the assurance that the PAP was prepared to and would be able to work with him. He was assured that the PAP would not pursue any further action against WP if he took over the leadership of the WP.

Despite these assurances, Low nevertheless realised that the best way forward for him was not to challenge Jeyaratnam directly. Jeyaratnam was an opposition giant and icon in the eyes of the electorate. Also, the cultural disposition of the Chinese majority and significant Malay voting bloc was that of showing deference to one's elders. Low knew his political career would be in trouble if he had launch a challenge against Jeyaratnam or contested Jeyaratnam for the leadership of the Workers' Party. Hence, he bidded his time. Egged on and aided by the PAP, Low continued with his personal campaign to destabilise and undermine JBJ's leadership by stealth."



Do you now of this? Is if this true and, do it mean Mr Low Thia Khiang also having a PAP handler?

I'm not surprised. It explains a lot of things.

But you're barking up the wrong forum with your exposé, given the general allegiance of the folks here.
 

sleaguepunter

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It is not a public holiday on 26 May. Do you mean there will be a walkover? The PM's speech did not sound like it.

If desmond walk the ground, I didn't see him. And my mom never mention Desmond had knock on her door. The old folks don't really care who the candidate but the logo of the party. There a deep distrust of pap by most ex punggol residents where quite a bit still alive.
 

wpwhistleblower

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Where did you get this? Who are you?

Goh Meng Seng

Mr Goh Sir, I see this in a blog or 3in1 cafe. Cannot really remember too many links leow. I think so bluff one. I suport you Mr Goh. I know you quite ngeow but I think you are honest and a very good man. Please don't let this WP blog people anyhow bully you. Please continue to speak the truth for Singpaoreans. Many of my friedns want to support you but quite scare of the WP blog poeple here. Good luck to you Sir! It is a honor for me that you reply to a small person like me.
 

amazonforest

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Your comment give goose pimples to many.

Mr Goh Sir, I see this in a blog or 3in1 cafe. Cannot really remember too many links leow. I think so bluff one. I suport you Mr Goh. I know you quite ngeow but I think you are honest and a very good man. Please don't let this WP blog people anyhow bully you. Please continue to speak the truth for Singpaoreans. Many of my friedns want to support you but quite scare of the WP blog poeple here. Good luck to you Sir! It is a honor for me that you reply to a small person like me.
 

Char_Azn

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You guys complaining about gms should really visit temasek times. The seem to be on a mission to discredit wp
 

Cruxx

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politics = dog eat dog

That's what Kuan Yew would have you believed. How else could he justify his vile tactics against the opposition? Book a trip to Europe and see for yourself what consensus politics is all about. :rolleyes:
 

Kinana

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WP opened up too many lobangs for people to criticise. Honestly they are really lousy. Talk big, fail to deliver and disapoint the people. Worst of all, dare not take responsibility.
Cannot blame Temasek Time s or Goh Meng Seng for saying the obvious
 
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