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Hongkies are DOGS 香港人是狗

.A Peking University professor’s sharp rebuke of Hong Kong natives has come under fire for using expletives and describing some of them as “dogs”.

In a talk show on Internet news site V1.cn last week, Chinese-language professor Kong Qingdong, who was also a guest commentator, was asked to discuss a recent heated exchange involving some Hong Kong locals and a mainland Chinese family.

According to news reports, a man had chastised a mainland family for allowing their child to snack in a Hong Kong subway train carriage when the act is prohibited under the territory’s laws. It escalated into a heated argument and a video of the incident was uploaded on the Internet.

Commenting on this, the professor took issue with how the incident was handled, saying during the show that the man ought to have advised the child in a polite manner although the boy had broken the rules by eating in the subway train.

He also noted how Hong Kong citizens sought to differentiate themselves from their mainland counterparts.

"You [Hongkongers] are Chinese, right? But as I know, many Hongkongers don't think they are Chinese. They claim that we are Hongkongers, you are Chinese. They are bastards," Kong was quoted by the South China Morning Post (SCMP) as saying. "Those kinds of people used to be running dogs for the British colonialists. And until now, you [Hongkongers] are still dogs. You aren't human."

The professor also took a pot-shot at both Hong Kong and Singapore, saying that both countries depend heavily on the rule of law as part of its governance, and that Singapore people have to abide by regulations in order to act appropriately in public.

A report in The Straits Times quoted Kong as saying, “If a society had to maintain its order through strict laws such as hefty fines for littering, as happened in Singapore, its 'law-abiding' look does not reflect the true nature of its people,” he said. “Instead, it shows they are a servile bunch who can be whipped into line.”

Kong’s remarks on the show sparked the ire of both natives in Hong Kong and China, with many viewers criticising the professor’s remarks for being insensitive. Hong Kong’s Oriental Daily reported that angry Hong Kongers protested against those comments and demanded an apology from the professor.
 
i think the professor is right. the hongkies could have told the boy politely not to eat. and i'm sure the mother would have agreed and would have stopped the boy from eating. i think the honkies are simply making a big issue over a small petty thing - they simply wanted to ridicule the mainlanders!

i think the professor is right. if you call yourself a chinese, and you can't speak mandarin, you should be ashamed of yourself...of course, he used a rather derogatory term like bastard and running dog..

sinkies are law abiding people - a hard tooth indeed! no wonder we are told to grow more hide and develop more spurs to deal with mainlanders!!!
 
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Chinese Students In America. It's Bad Out There.

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Much has been written about Chinese students coming to American colleges. An article out today, entitled, "Chinese applications to U.S. schools skyrocket," starts out quoting a Chinese high schooler who is contemplating attending the University of Washington:


I know this [ambition] is pretty high,” said the 17-year old Beijing native. “But I think I can give it a shot.”

To prepare, Duan wants to study international relations at an American college – someplace like the University of Washington. “I hear [it] is good at social science," she said.

The University of Washington is one of approximately 10 U.S. universities Duan plans to apply to in the coming year with the help of an education consultant she hired last summer.

That got me to thinking about the complaints (yes, it has been nothing but complaints) I have heard from college students (about half of whom are at the University of Washington -- but I certainly have heard the very same thing from sons and daughters of friends who attend other schools and from their parents as well, who in turn have heard it from their kids) about their fellow students from China. I am not going to editorialize at all here, beyond noting that I find these comments troubling. Instead, I am just going to set out the sort of things I have heard and let people discuss them in the comments.

I want to be very careful to note that these comments are about students from China, not about students of Chinese ethnicity. I also want to note that pretty much without exception, the students who conveyed these comments are sophisticated, intelligent, and well-traveled. They are not red-necks, by any means. In many instances, they would temper their comments by noting how the Chinese students who come from Hong Kong or Singapore or even Vietnam "are not like this."

I have heard the following, mostly more than just once and virtually always with other students present, who always seem to join in. There is a lot of anger out there. Though i have put quote marks around the comments below, in most cases, I do not remember exactly what was said.
•"They don't come here to learn. They just come here for the grades." I have heard this one at least a half dozen times.
•"I am convinced that if our teacher asked the class what 2+2 equals, and nobody spoke up who is not from China, not a single student from China would answer." I have heard some form of this one at least a dozen times.
•"They are killing class discussion. They never contribute." One student told me of how all the students not from China agreed not to speak one day to see what would happen. There was no class discussion and the teacher asked them not to do it again.
•"I cannot even stand having to listen to them give presentations. Their English is terrible and they don't even try. Somebody else must have taken the tests for them."
•"The school is going to regret having admitted them. They will never donate money to the school as alumni. It will be like they were never here at all."
•"You will never see any of them at any school function. Never ever ever. Unless it can help them with a grade." I am constantly hearing this one.
•"They never make any effort to talk with anyone other than those who are also from China."
•"They cheat all the time. It is pretty unbelievable how often I have seen them cheating. I am always complaining to my professors about this, but they usually just act like they are too important to deign to deal with something like this. Just come watch a test being adminstered and it will be obvious. They are allowed to get away with it because they pay the foreign tuition rate. It isn't fair." I hear this one constantly as well and, needless to say, it is the one that causes the most anger.
•"My friend with a 3.8 GPA and 650 SATs didn't get in and had to go to ______. I know he/she would have contributed far more to the school than these students from China."
•"I've heard that most of them cheated to get in."
•"The school claims they contribute to diversity. That's a complete lie. How can someone who never says anything contribute to anything? Everyone knows they are here only because they pay the foreign tuition rate.
•"I tried to speak with some of them, but they clearly had no interest."
•"This is a great way to ruin relations between China and us."
•"Why do they even bother? They come here to study, but since they never interact with anyone who is not from China, I don't even see why they come."

And again, what's so interesting is how often the complaining students were careful to note that they had no issues with Chinese students from Hong Kong or Taiwan or Singapore or Malaysia or the Philipines or the United States, "who are not this way at all." The above views really do seem to apply to just students from China.

I know we are going to get comments from people criticizing the students who made the above comments (and me for publishing them), but I think the more fruitful comments will address what can be done to help bridge this massive fissure. I would also love to see people address what this university-level tension portens for future China-US relations. I will note that I have heard Australia and the UK are dealing with the same sorts of issues.

What, if anything, needs to change?

For more on these issues, check out the following:
•New York Times, "The China Conundrum"
•Chicago Sun Times, "Chinese students enrolling in U.S. colleges in record numbers"
•Chronicle of Higher Education, "How American Colleges Can Better Serve Chinese Applicants" and "The China Conundrum: American colleges find the Chinese-student boom a tricky fit"
•American Public Media, "Chinese students, too qualifed to be true?
•Danwei, "Opening the door to American Universities with lies"
•China Beat, "Passport to the World: Chinese Students at the University of Kentucky"

UPDATE: Seeing a comment below reminded me of something I should have put in this post. A few months ago, I spoke at my alma mater, Grinnell College. Grinnell is a small, liberal arts college in the middle of Iowa. Here is a New York Times article on Chinese students at Grinnell. It talks of how Grinnell's admission is need blind and of how a dozen full scholarships are set aside for foreign students. It says Grinnell usually accepts around 15 of 200 applicants, out of total student body of about 1600 students. When I went to Grinnell, I led a discussion group of maybe ten students who were interested in international law. Two of those students were from China and neither of them were the least bit reticent. In fact, one of them asked if she could go with me and my career services minder to the student union to talk some more. I have also met a number of law students from China who do not match the complaints above. So my thinking is that maybe the problem is in the numbers. If 500 students from China go to one university as undergrads, it is just too easy for them to act as set out above. But if 40 students go to a small college that reviews the application intensely for more than just the numbers (test scores and dollars) and absolutely will not tolerate its students not participating in class discussions and the life of the college, it can work out just fine. Your thoughts people...
 
http://www.danwei.com/opening-the-door-to-american-universities-with-lies/

Opening the door to American universities with lies

by Tim Hathaway on September 7, 2011


There’s a growing perception that American universities are admitting Chinese students based on fraudulent applications. How big is this problem, and who is responsible for it? Tim Hathaway investigated the problem for the Southern Weekly, and this is what he found:



April Xu studied jazz dance for a time. She thought this would be good to mention on her applications to foreign master’s degree programs. After all, many foreign universities don’t just look at test scores. They also take into account a person’s background and abilities. It’s a comprehensive selection process.

However, she was unfamiliar with this process and felt time was tight, so like a majority of Chinese students with aspirations of studying abroad, she paid someone to help her, especially with the statement of purpose.

“He wrote that I had performed at a school gala but this was an exaggeration. After I finished reading it, I said I felt a little nervous or even dishonest because the event I danced at was much smaller,” April Ke said.

“But he told me that this is nothing, that there are students who inflate grades or have others take tests for them.”

There has been a rush to study abroad over the last few years. Chinese students are the largest group on American campuses, with 40,000 in undergraduate and 66,000 in graduate programs in 2010. There has been a proliferation of Chinese applications to U.S. universities over the past few years and with that, a rise in application fraud that has overwhelmed admissions offices across the United States and hurt the reputation of China abroad.

“If the perception is that Chinese applicants are not honest that reflects poorly on China. And I think the perception is Chinese applicants are not honest,” said Sarah Smith, an American education expert based in Beijing.

Ms. Smith provides advice to American universities on how to deal with suspicious Chinese applications. Although, she is quick to point out that most Chinese students are excellent and the legitimate ones may suffer due to the actions of a few.

The causes of application fraud are complex. It is not just limited to a few unscrupulous people, but also desperate parents, poorly trained admissions offices, increasing competition, and the lack of transparency of the American education system. However, the main facilitators of fraud are Chinese education intermediaries: companies that make their money by “guiding students through the application process..

What school wants to make things difficult for its students?

American universities expect students to fill in their own applications, write a statement of purpose, obtain authentic recommendation letters and send transcripts and standardized test scores. However, intermediary companies, let’s call them application consultancies, are only paid if students are admitted.

“Once the contract is signed the students are told that not only should they not worry, they’re not allowed to access their own application materials. They’re not allowed to handle the email correspondence with admissions offices,” said Meng Jiasi, a former employee of application consultancy USA Daxue.

“We just tell them to write [personal statements] in Chinese and we have people that translate it,” he said. “But I would say a high percentage of the essays in Chinese were not written by the students at all. They were written by my coworkers…. or they took essays from previous years that were successful and tweaked them.”

If time is tight and one’s work experience is lacking, Mr. Du at application consultancy Oxbridge International says that his company can arrange a three week internship at HSBC (汇丰银行), but write on the application that it lasted three months. Furthermore, if the client opens an account for international transactions with a significant deposit at that bank or any other, it will be possible to obtain proof of the internship and even a letter of recommendation. “We’ve been working together for years, and it’s been a happy cooperation at that,” he said.

American graduate schools often require sample essays and recommendations from people in the applicant’s field of study.

“Each one requires three to four essays, so if you apply to ten schools that’s 30 to 40 total. These written materials are very important. We have staff in China and abroad who help complete these for you,” said Ms. Bai of application consultancy Wiseway International. She said her staff in San Francisco can help with recommendation letters as well.

“Most of them are from different fields,” she said. “They can find people from your major.”

“The most basic factor behind fraud is the white hot competition,” said Liu Peng, who has been working in the industry for over five years. “The one’s who decide to do it are the students and parents.”

Many American universities want more international students and are eager to find reliable partners because they do not have the resources to recruit overseas on their own.

The American International Recruitment Council (AIRC) was established in 2008 in order to bring regulation to the industry. Only eleven agents operating in China have received accreditation.

Wiseway International has been accredited since 2010. When asked if U.S. universities will check the veracity of written documents, Ms. Bai said, “That’s not likely. Unless you make up some international award, they don’t usually follow up. You don’t need to worry about that.”

Transcript alteration is one of the most common forms of fraud among applicants, especially for undergraduate programs. Agents themselves do not usually recommend this action in order to avoid legal responsibility. However, once a client obtains the school’s consent, an agent sometimes makes specific changes in order to meet the GPA (grade point average) requirements of the schools the student is applying to. After the changes are made, the parents have the schools notarize the documents.

“Schools almost always notarize them because you’re going to study abroad. They’re very willing to help. What school would want to make it difficult for you to do this,” said Ms. Chen from China Education International, another application consultancy that is also accredited by AIRC.

Discrimination can be “troubling”

“We have received word from various faculty across the university that a number of these [Chinese] students are ill-prepared for NYU, and have had disappointing classroom participation skills,” said an admissions counselor at New York University. It is updating its policy on fraud this year mainly due to the experience with Chinese students. However, she is unfamiliar with some standard practices among Chinese agents.

The admissions counselor said that NYU uses email to verify a student’s English ability. When asked if she was aware that agents regularly impersonate applicants, she said she was “uncomfortable” answering such questions and declined further comment.

Despite widespread frustration over application fraud, dozens of universities declined comment for this article. According to two industry experts, this is because they are unsure what to do about it. They do not want to be seen as inept, nor do they want to be seen as criticizing China.

There is no way to ascertain if Chinese fraud is in fact worse than that of other countries, but since Chinese applications outnumber all others, this has become the perception.

The problem of application fraud is compounded by the fact that most American universities simply are unable to deal appropriately with foreign applications, including functions as basic as evaluating credentials.

“You’ve got schools admitting people quite literally to graduate schools who only have a high school diploma, because they misunderstood what the credential represented. And you have people with degrees that are being rejected because they don’t understand that the degree is in fact comparable to a US bachelor’s degree,” said Dale Gough, director of International Education Services at American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers (AACRAO).

“The sad fact is that most [American] institutions do not have staff trained or are equipped with the necessary resources to do a credible job in evaluating foreign credentials.”

Mr. Gough provides training in international credential verification and warns that it is a problem in every country. In fact, he says international students ought to be wary of American diploma mills. (There are 3,500 accredited institutions in the United States. Accrediting agencies are all independent. The Department of Education does not have authority over their programs and cannot revoke accreditation.)

In China, the China Academic Degrees and Graduate Education Development Center (CDGDC) is the official agency responsible for maintaining the integrity of Chinese graduate education. In addition to evaluating graduate programs, they also verify diplomas and transcripts. It operates under the auspices of the Ministry of Education.

According to Assistant Director Wang Lisheng, the problem of fake transcripts and diplomas in China began in the late 1990’s when students began studying abroad without government support. The government set up this office in order to assist foreign institutions and ensure the integrity of Chinese diplomas abroad.

“Premier Wen Jiabao has said repeated that we need to do this well. We need to manage our education credentials well and not let this cause problems abroad,” he said.

CDGDC currently has cooperative relationships with several dozen countries and organizations around the world. In February, CDGDC signed a cooperative agreement with AACRAO and in June Wang Lisheng gave a presentation at the NAFSA’s annual conference in Vancouver in early June, an event attended by many American universities.

One of the most hotly debated topics among professionals at organizations like NAFSA is whether or not universities should contract with agents to recruit international students. Supporters say most schools have no other way to recruit, and oversight from AIRC and local governments can ameliorate the problems. Opponents believe there is an irreconcilable conflict of interest. Who is to say an agent is not going to send highly qualified students to lower ranked universities simply because of the financial incentive?

Ironically, the debate over how best to internationalize a campus has been decidedly solipsistic. It is centered on the needs of universities and what relationship they ought to have with agents. It has ignored students and their families who see a need for this kind of service.

Nearly two out of every three current undergraduate students from China has paid an intermediary to help gain admission to American universities, according to a recent study funded by Dr. Zhang Yi for the Center for Enrollment Research, Policy and Practice at USC.

Dr. Zhang, a Zhengzhou native, said that one surprising finding is that many of the students who did not pay for these services still benefited from them, making intermediaries an integral part of the application process for the vast majority of Chinese students. They utilized information from consultants from web sites, open seminars, and free consultations.

There are several thousand application consultancies across the country. A typical full service contract may cost families up to 60,000 yuan, if accepted to a top tier school; and 25,000 yuan for one that is not in the top 100 according to U.S News and World Report rankings. There are currently about 273,000 Chinese students in America, Canada, England, Australia, and New Zealand. If only half of them used agents and paid an average of 25,000 yuan, then the educational intermediary industry in China alone is well over $100 million per year.

Dr. Zhang Yi interviewed dozens of students already enrolled at American universities. They agreed that enough information is available for them to apply on their own but they often don’t know where to find it or if it is reliable.

“It’s there but the information is difficult to access,” Dr. Zhang said. “I think that universities in the U.S. should acknowledge the influence and the positive impact of the agencies on students’ applications.”

This situation would not exist if the U.S. did not use the comprehensive evaluation system which dates back to the 1920s. The system has its origins at a time when officials were afraid alumni would be upset if large numbers of Jews or Catholics were admitted. Future students might choose another university. So in addition to an entrance exam, officials based admission decisions on subjective data such as personal background and recommendation letters. The American admissions process is not transparent and was never meant to be.

In 2003 the Supreme Court made the controversial ruling that race or ethnicity is an acceptable reason for admission decisions in the name of affirmative action. If universities revealed the subjective and sometimes capricious reasons for admissions decisions, there would undoubtedly be a torrent of litigation. This secrecy acts as a legal shield over universities’ own conflicts of interests. For example, it is well known that some universities give preference to students who can pay full tuition, which is one reason Chinese students are more and more attractive to foreign universities.

But this secrecy also hides their inability, or even incompetence, when detecting fraud. It is possible that many Chinese students are being rejected merely on the suspicion of falsified materials.

How many U.S. institutions err on the side of caution by rejecting applicants without proof of fraud? Does the fear of fraud produce an unconscious bias against Chinese students?

Dr. Linda Serra Hagedorn, a professor and associate dean of undergraduate programs at Iowa State University, researches and publishes her work on international students with her coauthor Dr. Zhang Yi. She agreed that these questions are nearly impossible to answer:

“I sometimes get very troubled with what I see as discrimination against specifically Asian students,” said Dr. Hagedorn of her three decades of experience in American academia. “That’s one more area that we could pursue and do additional research.”

“I’d rather spend two years studying abroad than in China”

Chinese parents and students should do research as well if they have plans to study abroad. Dr. Zhang said that students realized many services were unnecessary. For example, obtaining a visa is quite simple and does not require professional assistance. Another nearly universal complaint is the difficulty of finding a trustworthy agent.

Parents need to be wary of agents who do not admit contractual relationships with foreign schools, according to Sarah Smith.

“The greatest harm,” she says is, “when you see a kid being sent to an American school that is of dramatically lower quality than that kid could have gone to simply because the agent doesn’t have a commercial relationship to that school.”

When evaluating an agent, parents should not ask how many clients have been accepted by elite schools; this may be untrue and in fact is irrelevant to their child. Instead, Ms. Smith recommends parents ask three questions: What is your economic relationship to these foreign universities (do not sign a contract if they refuse to answer); How often and how many of your staff physically visit US universities; and what are your policies related to fraud?

Another problem may be the use of U.S. News and World Report rankings, which most agent fees are based on. Though they are quite influential and considered authoritative, many experts believe the rankings are flawed and even biased against smaller schools, which are not nationally known but have excellent regional reputations. The U.S. government does not provide official rankings.

There are also risks for parents and students who are tempted to alter transcripts or allow agents to exaggerate their abilities.

In addition to creating a black stain on the image of the nation, individual schools who regularly change transcripts gain a negative reputation in the admissions community, making it harder for legitimate students. Admissions personnel are well aware of the most unreliable schools.

Those who grossly exaggerate their abilities often fail out, creating a loss of face for them and their families. But for most students the only repercussion is a rejection letter and for those who are accepted, perhaps a stain on one’s conscience. If schools discover fraud after acceptance, they generally do not take action. Schools do not want to punish the students when the culprit may well have been the parents or an agent. However, students who commit financial aid or scholarship fraud are very likely to be expelled.

For those who need information about financial aid, EducationUSA is an organization sponsored by the United States government which can answer any questions about studying abroad. There are over 400 offices worldwide. It is the closest thing America has to China’s Confucius Institutes because its mandate is to promote U.S. education as a means to understanding the country and is values. It is primarily an information service but also provides training in things such as how to write a personal essay.

Lauryne Massinga, Ed.D., director of EducationUSA in Beijing, says her organization is a viable alternative to agents because they provide “all the necessary tools, information, and advice” for DIY. For example, her staff can easily show students how to tell if a university is in fact a diploma mill. All services are free and primarily in Chinese, and they do not currently accept funds from students or universities.

“I haven’t come across any family or any student that couldn’t do it themselves,” said Dr. Massinga who has been in the Beijing office for nearly two years.

Clearly, however, EducationUSA with its 10 person staff will not be able to dramatically reduce the market for agents any time soon. These companies’ services are likely to exist as long as demand for a foreign education far exceeds that of domestic education.

The number of Chinese students studying abroad continues to rise with people like April Xu. She didn’t want to pay hefty fees for an agent, nor did she want to exaggerate her personal statement. But she did it anyway and succeeded. She will attend a graduate program in journalism in Boston in September and start the next chapter in her life.

“Many classmates choose to take the entrance exams for Chinese graduate programs, but I always felt that domestic programs don’t offer anything special,“ said April Xu. “I’d rather spend two years studying abroad than in China.”



NOTE: This article first appeared in Chinese in Southern Weekly on August 25, 2011. The original version is here. Fang Kecheng and Xu Ke contributed to this article. Some names have been changed at the request of interviewees.

Tim Hathaway is a regular contributor to Southern Weekly. His column with article and commentary translations in English can be found here.
 
i think the professor is right. the hongkies could have told the boy politely not to eat. and i'm sure the mother would have agreed and would have stopped the boy from eating. i think the honkies are simply making a big issue over a small petty thing - they simply wanted to ridicule the mainlanders!

i think the professor is right. if you call yourself a chinese, and you can't speak mandarin, you should be ashamed of yourself...of course, he used a rather derogatory term like bastard and running dog..

sinkies are law abiding people - a hard tooth indeed! no wonder we are told to grow more hide and develop more spurs to deal with mainlanders!!!

This uncle.. you are very slow... why are you reposting the news which was posted at the start of the thread?
Chinks are made of tofu. They urinate and shit everywhere yet they find it too rough fo their kids to be scolded by others. The ang moh kids would have fought back. Blahdy weaklings deserve it.
 
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/chinese-students-too-qualified-be-true

Our China Correspondent Rob Schmitz has the first of two stories about the controversial agencies that help Chinese students get into U.S. schools.

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Rob Schmitz: If you walk down the street in Shanghai, it's hard to miss the advertisements for college placement agencies. In big bold letters, they promise -- some even guarantee -- your child's admission to an American university. The price: $5,000, $6,000, sometimes $7,000.

Jiang Xueqin is a well-known education reformer in China. He also heads the International division at Peking University High School -- one of China's best high schools. He has followed college placement agencies for years. He says this is how many of them deliver on their admission promises: they falsify students application materials.


Jiang Xueqin: There's a lot of pressure on the agencies to write the application essays, to fake transcripts, to fake recommendation letters. This is just general business practice in China to falsify a lot of documentation.

A report by consulting firm Zinch China seems to confirm this. Zinch advises American colleges and universities on recruiting Chinese students. The firm interviewed agents and admissions consultants, as well as more than 200 Beijing students headed to U.S. schools. Zinch estimates 90 percent of these students submitted false recommendation letters; 70 percent had other people write their personal essays, and half of them submitted forged high school transcripts. Two former employees of a college placement agency told Marketplace they routinely falsified application materials. We did not use their names, because they feared they would lose their current jobs.


Anonymous employee 1: I wrote reference letters on behalf of students' teachers and bosses. They were never willing to spend time to do this, so I just wrote them myself and they signed their names.

She worked for Shanghai Shenyuan, a placement agency connected to the University of Shanghai. It's one of more than 400 agencies licensed by China's government.

Here's how the agency works: A student comes to Shanghai Shenyuan for help getting into a U.S. school. If Shenyuan succeeds, the agency collects -- usually from the parents -- the equivalent of $6,000. Both former employees say this put pressure on them to make absolutely sure that students were admitted to a U.S. college, even if they didn't have the grades to get in.


Anonymous employee 2: They'd definitely not be accepted to American colleges with their transcripts. But if students tell their high schools they're applying to an American college, most schools will revise their grades to reflect a B or an A average.

The reason, this former employee said, was simple.


Anonymous employee 2: So that they can boast that their students are admitted by well-known American colleges.

Both employees estimated they wrote college application essays for three out of every four students the agency handled.


Anonymous employee 1: I usually just made them up using my own ideas. Sometimes I'd browse the internet or read magazines for inspiration.

Over the years, Shanghai Shenyuan has had partnerships with more than a dozen U.S. universities, including the University of Wisconsin at Stevens Point. For weeks, Shanghai Shenyuan's director ignored Marketplace's repeated requests for an interview. But then we approached the University of Wisconsin and shared what we had found. That university promptly terminated its relationship with Shenyuan. The next day, Zhang Hong, Shanghai Shenyuan's director, contacted us.


Zhang Hong: These are serious allegations and we are shocked. Faking application material is absolutely not allowed at Shenyuan.

Zhang says he's investigating his agents for any wrongdoing.

Jim Miller, former president of the National Association for College Admission Counseling in the United States, says he's not surprised at what Marketplace found.


Jim Miller: There are numerous colleges that are having difficulty assuring the integrity of the essays, transcripts and credentials, coming from other countries, and in particular in Asia.

Peking University High School's Jiang Xueqin says both the agencies and American universities benefit from the status quo.


Jiang Xueqin: From an education perspective, what is happening is terrible. But from a business perspective, what's happening makes perfect sense.

There are now more than 130,000 students from China at U.S. universities. Many of them paying full tuition. They make up nearly 20 percent of all foreign students and this percentage is only expected to grow in the years to come.

In Shanghai, I'm Rob Schmitz for Marketplace.

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Ryssdal: Tomorrow Amy Scott's got the flip side of the story. American schools, eager for tuition, facing a growing tide of Chinese applicants who may or may not be the students they say they are.
 
This uncle.. you are very slow... why are you reposting the news which was posted at the start of the thread?
Chinks are made of tofu. They urinate and shit everywhere yet they find it too rough fo their kids to be scolded by others. The ang moh kids would have fought back. Blahdy weaklings deserve it.

ang moh kids fought back and get beaten up! Btw why are you praising the ang moh kids for fighting back if they are in the wrong? You're another ang moh cock sucker wearing ther butt skin of the shits on your face cos your own race is worthless.
 
Think the professor is trying to create 'news' to boost his profile. Even if 1% of PRC support the professor, it's enough. Now everyone knows this professor, both inside and outside PRC. To be a famous dog is what the professor wants.
 
ang moh kids fought back and get beaten up! Btw why are you praising the ang moh kids for fighting back if they are in the wrong? You're another ang moh cock sucker wearing ther butt skin of the shits on your face cos your own race is worthless.

All i know is you are as blur as a cock. You are responding to my posts because i mentioned somewhere i am glad i am not chink, but i did not say my grandfather or grandmother was not one. I dissociate myself from where my ancestors came from because 90% of chinks today behave like, in the words of our esteemed forummer "sammyboi", "stray dogs without toilet training". Therefore they should expect to get a scolding sometime, somewhere. But if they do not believe they should be scolded, they should just fight back rather than let their bitch sister engage in a shouting match. Make any sense to you? I guess not. I think you miss your twin brother psy83 who has since died of cowardice.
 
Heaty, yes. But garlic, I don't know. It's delicious but heaty because dog is very active, just about the only animal that needs to stick out its tongue to cool itself. But the muscular activity makes its meat lean and tender if you cook it right.


Ai yo, dog meat is heaty because of the various enzymes in it, not because of the behaviour of the dog!

Wild Rabbits are even more active than dogs (physically and sexually), but they are not heaty!

Anyway I hate to eat rabbits and dogs. Ok, maybe dogs can try again.
 
Just watched the video clip. In it he also said these people are "Jian" meaning "cheapstake":confused:, after saying these can be whipped into line. He referring to sinkies or hongkies:confused:

He also said a 200m sq house is called luxuary home over there, it's a joke.:o But someone in sinkieland once told us pigeon hole is like a palace:(

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The professor also took a pot-shot at both Hong Kong and Singapore, saying that both countries depend heavily on the rule of law as part of its governance, and that Singapore people have to abide by regulations in order to act appropriately in public.

A report in The Straits Times quoted Kong as saying, “If a society had to maintain its order through strict laws such as hefty fines for littering, as happened in Singapore, its 'law-abiding' look does not reflect the true nature of its people,” he said. “Instead, it shows they are a servile bunch who can be whipped into line.”

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The "Lao shi"'s explanation.:o

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At 3:00, the video showed a picture of the prof, who was a student protestor in the tiananmen incident. Subsequently, he wrote an essay of self critic to save his own skin and became a prof.


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Ai yo, dog meat is heaty because of the various enzymes in it, not because of the behaviour of the dog!

Wild Rabbits are even more active than dogs (physically and sexually), but they are not heaty!

Anyway I hate to eat rabbits and dogs. Ok, maybe dogs can try again.

You Chinese are hopeless and ruthless. Why eat dog or rabbit? There're plenty of other meats around.
 
All i know is you are as blur as a cock. You are responding to my posts because i mentioned somewhere i am glad i am not chink, but i did not say my grandfather or grandmother was not one. I dissociate myself from where my ancestors came from because 90% of chinks today behave like, in the words of our esteemed forummer "sammyboi", "stray dogs without toilet training". Therefore they should expect to get a scolding sometime, somewhere. But if they do not believe they should be scolded, they should just fight back rather than let their bitch sister engage in a shouting match. Make any sense to you? I guess not. I think you miss your twin brother psy83 who has since died of cowardice.

wrong i'm just asking you why do you think it's admirable for the ang moh kids to fight back if told off if they are in the wrong. It's obvious you are bias cos if chinese kids did that you would be racially insulting them. So you have chinese blood in you eh? Here's a hint just by simplying disassociating yourself from your roots doesn't automatically change your race dumbass.

PS i think you think you just got out of a special needs school but they didn't do much in helping you how to write cos i don't understand what you're writing about.
 
From observation in public, Malay kids in Singapore are the best behaved. Naughty and bouncy by kid's nature but still best behaved and most compliant to adult instruction. Indian kids are the worst, followed closely by Chinese kids. Both breeds of brats tend to behave in public as if their great grandfather was Mohandas Ghandi or Mao Tse-tung with their parents behaving like butlers and maids at their command and pleasure.

I'm sorry I can't comment on my own race of Eurasians. There're too few for a good sampling. Perhaps in two more generations, Eurasians and Peranakans would be extinct through further intermarriages since there're already so few native Eurasians and Peranakans left now.
 
wrong i'm just asking you why do you think it's admirable for the ang moh kids to fight back if told off if they are in the wrong. It's obvious you are bias cos if chinese kids did that you would be racially insulting them. So you have chinese blood in you eh? Here's a hint just by simplying disassociating yourself from your roots doesn't automatically change your race dumbass. PS i think you think you just got out of a special needs school but they didn't do much in helping you how to write cos i don't understand what you're writing about.

You really have comprehension problem. I don't know where you got this idea i am ok with ang moh kids fighting back but not chinese kids. I said if the kids do not believe they should be scolded they should fight back like the ang moh kids, which is exactly opposite to your comprehension. Your race / ethnic group is not the same as your nationality, you twit. My race remains Han Chinese (ethnic group) but i am not a Chink (China Chinese) which my grandparents were.

You do not understand my writing simply because you have low IQ... i believe the majority of the forummers here would agree you are short of a few wires up there.
 
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You Chinese are hopeless and ruthless. Why eat dog or rabbit? There're plenty of other meats around.

Because they're delicious. There's nothing to do with ruthlessness. How about you slaughtering cattle and sheep? Is that any less ruthless? Rabbit is available in PRC too. You make me feel like revisiting PRC again.
 
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