Heart problems in Spore for the poor

[myfoot123]

Sold in cannister of powdered form. Each cannister is 454gm
Costs from US$12 to US$16 per cannister, can buy from different stores in the internet.

The manufacture Cerburg also offeres snack bars using Grapefruit Pectin
Can visit their site at http://www.profibe.com. There are FAQs, newsletters, testimonials, etc

I got mine from ww.iherb.com at $16/cannister but got 16% discount on total order because I ordered other supplements totaling US$480.

The shipment must have cost another bomb too?

 

[johnny333]

Can Cholesterol comes down after medication? My Cholesterol level is midly exceeded the max level of 200, I am afraid of seeking medication. Will the level comes down after medication? I hate taking drugs, it is the starting journey of weakening our body systems

When my doctor prescribed statins I told him NO. Even if the medicines(statins & non-statins) work it is toxic to the body & has side effects.

What does high cholesterol level mean? Whats important is the ratio of HDL & LDL(good/bad cholesterol) & the amount of free radical damage you are exposed to. Cholesterol only becomes damaging when its oxidized. If you are concerned about high cholesterol you should also look into taking antioxidants like Vit C, E, green tea, grape seed etc .

There are many natural alternatives to controlling cholesterol like aged garlic, red yeast, fibres(profibe). These supplements are available at the health stores, except Profibe. I had to order from the US because its not available locally.

 

[myfoot123]

When my doctor prescribed statins I told him NO. Even if the medicines(statins & non-statins) work it is toxic to the body & has side effects.

What does high cholesterol level mean? Whats important is the ratio of HDL & LDL(good/bad cholesterol) & the amount of free radical damage you are exposed to. Cholesterol only becomes damaging when its oxidized. If you are concerned about high cholesterol you should also look into taking antioxidants like Vit C, E, green tea, grape seed etc .

I see, noted. Will read more information online.

 

[johnny333]

The shipment must have cost another bomb too?

My shipment weighed 21 lbs and cost US$28.01 to ship by DHL. I expect to received it in 3-4 days.

I've compared prices with Natures Farm & GNC, and ordering from the USA is cheaper especially if you order in bulk. Many of the items I've ordered are not even available locally. Where in Spore can you get L-Carnitine(855mg, 180 capsules) for less than SIN$50 or Seanol, or resveratrol?

 

[boring]

My shipment weighed 21 lbs and cost US$28.01 to ship by DHL. I expect to received it in 3-4 days.

I've compared prices with Natures Farm & GNC, and ordering from the USA is cheaper especially if you order in bulk. Many of the items I've ordered are not even available locally. Where in Spore can you get L-Carnitine(855mg, 180 capsules) for less than SIN$50 or Seanol, or resveratrol?

good morning johnny, me again who blast ur supplement worship theory, not going to blast u more but still hope u can tune to nature living/cure instead of spending so much money for those gimmick product, wish u good health

 

[johnny333]

good morning johnny, me again who blast ur supplement worship theory, not going to blast u more but still hope u can tune to nature living/cure instead of spending so much money for those gimmick product, wish u good health

Hey, the supplements are natural & many from organic sources

Profibe is made from natural grapefruit pectin. It provides fiber in large amounts that would otherwise be impractical to get from other sources like eating an apple or orange.

More importantly its for the 'poor' with heart problem. Only US$16 a month for live saving fiber

 

[tonychat]

If you have heart problems in Spore you'd better have a fat bank account. There are many world class doctors that are more than happy to prescribe medical tests & procedures that 'may' help but are not cheap. Even a simple blood test for cholesterol will require a visit to the doctors office for approval for a test

Doctor can only prescribe the 'approved' medical treatments, drugs & surgical procedures. If you are looking for an integrative approach to dealing with heart problems , your on your own.

I recently stumbled onto a book "The Miracle Heart" by Jean Carper, only $6.50 at the Junction 8 Popular Bookstore. This paperback is really useful as it covers the kind of diet & supplements to help your heart.

I found chapter 12 interesting, the use of grapefruit pectin(Profibe by CerBurg) to lower the cholesterol & clear the arteries. I did not know that grapefruit pectin could be used to clear the clog arteries & its only US$16 per cannister. Previously I was only aware of chelation, a non-surgical treatment for blocked arteries.

I checked with the local health stores & none carry this product. So I'm ordering a 10 month supply from the US. According to the research it takes a few months to clear the arteries. The way I see it US$160 is cheep cheep, if it clears my arteries.

If you've got high cholesterol or clogged arteries you might want to look into this product, I hope you find this info useful

You do not need any treatment or those money-wasting supplement, just turn vegetarian and you will see your cholesterol drop in no time. Cholesterol level rises when you eat meat, plant food do not contain cholesterol.

As what i say, you deserve what you eat.

I used to take a cholesterol test before just to show off.

2 hours before i took the test, i ate a plate of vegetarian chicken rice with bean sauce on it, my level is in the 150 + range. My sugar level are at the super healthy level.

I am still a vegetarian at that time and not yet a vegan.

Many vegans are at the 120 to 130 + level of cholesterol.



Those studies say that go below 200 is the level to aim. Personally, i think that 200 is still high, should go below 170. My healthy 150 + range is achieve without any conscious effort to it. I just eat (vegetarian) as what i do normally and enjoy all the taste of food fit for humans and still get a good heart.

 

[tonychat]

http://www.goveg.com/heartdisease_cholather.asp

Average cholesterol in the US: 210

Average cholesterol level of US vegetarian: 161

Average cholesterol level of US Vegan: 133

 

[shelltox]

If you have heart problems in Spore you'd better have a fat bank account. There are many world class doctors that are more than happy to prescribe medical tests & procedures that 'may' help but are not cheap. Even a simple blood test for cholesterol will require a visit to the doctors office for approval for a test

Doctor can only prescribe the 'approved' medical treatments, drugs & surgical procedures. If you are looking for an integrative approach to dealing with heart problems , your on your own.

I recently stumbled onto a book "The Miracle Heart" by Jean Carper, only $6.50 at the Junction 8 Popular Bookstore. This paperback is really useful as it covers the kind of diet & supplements to help your heart.

I found chapter 12 interesting, the use of grapefruit pectin(Profibe by CerBurg) to lower the cholesterol & clear the arteries. I did not know that grapefruit pectin could be used to clear the clog arteries & its only US$16 per cannister. Previously I was only aware of chelation, a non-surgical treatment for blocked arteries.

I checked with the local health stores & none carry this product. So I'm ordering a 10 month supply from the US. According to the research it takes a few months to clear the arteries. The way I see it US$160 is cheep cheep, if it clears my arteries.

If you've got high cholesterol or clogged arteries you might want to look into this product, I hope you find this info useful

It is true that you can take supplement to lower your cholesterol, just like it was recommended to take green tea. However, as in the case of green tea if you have a weak stomach(gastric and loose stool) it is recommended that refrain from taking green tea daily. So remember to monitor your reaction to the supplement .

 

[0939]

What is the result? slightly high or very high. My doctor told me some of the cholesterol medicine might be harmful to the liver. I guess you must take the natural course by jogging or eating fruits. Not too sure if some supplements from GNC might help.

Just last week, my cholesterol test was something 5.1 which the Doc said was bad for the heart and I had to take another medicine FENOFIBRATE, on top of that I took my usual medicine every night. I always knew cholesterol level around 200 but why 5.1?

 

[sunny302]

I always knew cholesterol level around 200 but why 5.1?

Your may wish to refer to this link for the answer:

http://www.coronary-heart-health.com/cholesterol-results.html

Cheers

 

[johnny333]

However, as in the case of green tea if you have a weak stomach(gastric and loose stool) it is recommended that refrain from taking green tea daily. So remember to monitor your reaction to the supplement .

I take a supplement with green tea extract with 200mg EGCg possesses the phytonutrient content equal to about 2-3 cups of green tea.

It is also in a multivitamin I am taking daily.

So far I haven't had any problems tolerating it. Which is good because green tea is one of the more powerful antioxidants & its cheap(less than $30 for 180 capsuls). Unlike antioxidants like Pycnogenol & Seanol.

 

[johnny333]

http://www.goveg.com/heartdisease_cholather.asp

Average cholesterol in the US: 210

Average cholesterol level of US vegetarian: 161

Average cholesterol level of US Vegan: 133

Cholesterol levels are related to age. I understand that veggy eaters have healthier cholesterol but its damn hard to find veggies if you eat out.

 

[tonychat]

Cholesterol levels are related to age. I understand that veggy eaters have healthier cholesterol but its damn hard to find veggies if you eat out.

Are you sure? i have been doing that for so many years, i dun find it hard. You just need to educate yourself where to get food that are plant based.

You do not need to go to a pure veggie stalls to get food.
Just a those normal stalls but avoid the meat will be ok.

Cholesterol is depended on what you eat. Even if you are older, you eat a pure plant based diet, your arteries are still very clear and clean.

When a person is older and more aware of cholesterol level is because the person has eat all those cholesterol infested meat for so many years until reach the danger levels already, that is why old pple are cautious.

If the same person eats plant based diet for many years, when he reach old age, he dun have much worry about it.

The good news is those meat-eating old folks who are worried, they can reverse it by starting a plant based diet, and thier cholesterol level will go back to healthy level and a high HDL will help to clear your age-old cholesterol infested arteries.

In other words, if you turn over a new leaf, and avoid being bloodthirsty, you will be saved. Help animals, help yourself.

Good Luck...

 

[johnny333]

Are you sure? i have been doing that for so many years, i dun find it hard. You just need to educate yourself where to get food that are plant based.

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Good Luck...

When you have Type 2 diabetes & a heart problem it damn hard to eat correctly .
Don't know what oils they are using, hydrogenated(trans fat)? All that processed starch, salt,msg, ....:(

 

[Zombie]

Its been less than a year since I had a heart attack, so although I'm in recovery mode, I'm feeling great now & looking at at scaling back to just taking a few supplements for maintenance.

How young are you?
How was the attack like?

Just curious.

 

[johnny333]

How young are you?
How was the attack like?

Just curious.

How old you mean, I have reached Spores unofficial retirement age.


I thought I had food poisoning when I went to see the doctor because I vomited. My shoulder ached but I didn't think it was relevant because when you have a sedentary lifestyle, achs & pains are common,

When they told me I had a heart attack it was a surprise to me. There was no drama of collapsing, heart hurting or anything like you see in those dramas

 

[Zombie]

How old you mean, I have reached Spores unofficial retirement age.


I thought I had food poisoning when I went to see the doctor because I vomited. My shoulder ached but I didn't think it was relevant because when you have a sedentary lifestyle, achs & pains are common,

When they told me I had a heart attack it was a surprise to me. There was no drama of collapsing, heart hurting or anything like you see in those dramas

Thanks for sharing.

Did you go for any surgical treatment?

 

[johnny333]

Thanks for sharing.

Did you go for any surgical treatment?

Yes, the doctor went in to do an angioplasty but didn't install any stents because I had too many blockages. He recommended open heart surgery.

That was a good thing because it gave me time to find alternative therapies.
I went to a clinic in KL that offered Intravenous Chelation & ECP(external counter pulsation). You can find doctors in Spore offering IV Chelation but not ECP treatment.

 

[tonychat]

When you have Type 2 diabetes & a heart problem it damn hard to eat correctly .
Don't know what oils they are using, hydrogenated(trans fat)? All that processed starch, salt,msg, ....:(

I thought you can do your own cooking.

Since you have such health problem, cooking by yourself didn't come to your mind?

Anyway, if lowering your cholesterol is your aim, then adopting and educating yourself to a vegan diet will sure to help a lot.

And it is a much cheaper way to heal yourself this way effectively.