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Have-nots are squeezed and stacked in Hong Kong...

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Outcomes of overcrowding and high cost of living.
What happened to these people can be the future of our children.

Have-nots are squeezed and stacked in Hong Kong
Bettina Wassener and Grace Tsoi, the New York Times | Updated: September 28, 2013 09:37 IST
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(Lam Yik Fei/International Herald Tribune)
In a city with some of the world's highest living costs, those at the bottom of the income ladder often resort to living spaces with a dozen or more to an apartment.
Hong Kong: On the first floor of a hulking residential building, at the end of a dimly lit corridor, a narrow door opens up into Hong Kong's economic underbelly.

Twenty-two men live in this particular 450-square-foot apartment in the neighborhood of Mong Kok, in cubicles each hardly larger than a single bed, stacked above one another along two narrow passageways that end in a dank toilet and shower room.

Each cupboardlike cubicle has a sliding door, a small television, some shelves and a thin mattress. Most of the men have lived here for months, some for years.

"Luckily there is air conditioning. If not, sleeping would be impossible," said Ng Chi-hung, 55, who is unemployed and occupies one of the bottom bunks. "If you live in such environment, you have to adapt to everything."

Cheng Tin-sang, 59, occupies the bunk above, which is reached via a short metal ladder. Unable to work because of a heart condition, Cheng wanders the streets all day.

"I sit in places like McDonald's," he said. "Anywhere with air conditioners will do."

Hong Kong's per-capita gross domestic product is higher than that of Italy, and not far short of those of Britain and France, according to World Bank figures. But for unskilled or semi-skilled people like Ng, the city is a tough place to be, said Wong Hung, an associate professor at the Chinese University of Hong Kong who specializes in urban poverty and employment.

Hong Kong's economy underwent a major change in the 1980s, when much of the manufacturing activity for which the city became famous in the 1950s and '60s moved across the border to mainland China. In its place came banking, insurance, trading, logistics and real estate - service sectors that now employ nearly 90 percent of the workforce but that have been unable to absorb many less-educated workers, Wong said.

At the same time, Hong Kong has some of the highest living costs in the world, a huge and growing burden on those at the bottom of the income ladder.

Ng, for example, has worked on construction sites and made deliveries. His last job, as a waiter, paid 7,000 to 8,000 Hong Kong dollars a month, about $900 to $1,000. The monthly rent on his 15-square-foot bunk in Mong Kok is 1,440 Hong Kong dollars.

At least 170,000 people live in such dwellings in Hong Kong, according to Policy 21, a research unit tasked by the government to take stock of the situation. Such housing can be found all over the city, in units fenced off with plasterboard or cagelike wire mesh, carved out of apartments that once housed a family each but that have since been subdivided multiple times. This subdividing of privately owned apartments is legal as long as safety and sanitation requirements are met.

"It is quite hard to know how many there are," said Sze Lai Shan, who works for the Society for Community Organization, a nongovernmental organization that campaigns for social equality. "We hear about them from the people we work with - they tell us of new flats that have been subdivided or old ones that have closed down."

While tiny housing of this kind has existed in Hong Kong for many years, it has worsened as soaring property prices have pushed more and more low-income earners out of the market for regular housing in recent years.

Rent on these spaces, meanwhile, has risen nearly 20 percent in the past four years. Such spaces now gobble up about a third of their residents' incomes, a report released by Sze's organization this month showed. On a per-square-foot basis, the spaces cost at least one-third more to rent than regular apartments that are not subdivided, which average about 22.70 Hong Kong dollars, or $2.93, a square foot per month.

"It is very expensive to live here, so I have to be more frugal, and I cut my food expenses," said Yuen Luen-yuk, 49, who moved to Hong Kong from Zhanjiang, on China's south coast, eight years ago and has a low-paid job looking after the residents of a home for the elderly.

Her living space, with a ceiling too low for an adult to stand, is part of a subdivided apartment in the neighborhood of Kwun Tong. Nine other people live there; they share a dim kitchen, a basic bathroom and a narrow corridor cooled by humming electric fans.

"I've not thought about renting something better," Yuen said, "because that means all your salary will be given to the landlord."

Hong Kong's housing situation is now one of the reasons the government of Leung Chun-ying, who took the helm of the city's administration last year, is deeply unpopular. Leung has pledged to add 20,000 units a year to the city's already large stock of social housing for low-income earners.

And a committee tasked with reviewing housing strategy this month made numerous recommendations to deal with Hong Kong's housing problems, including a proposal to set up a licensing system for subdivided apartments in a bid to regulate safety and health conditions better.

Housing experts fear, however, that such measures will not be nearly enough. New government-subsidized housing - with small but far more comfortable apartments than the tiny spaces in which Cheng and others live - will take years to build, the government acknowledges.

Meanwhile, the waiting list for public housing has been lengthening steadily as rising prices have squeezed more and more low-income earners out of regular apartments. About 230,000 are now on the list, according to government figures, up from 165,000 two years ago.

With families and the elderly given priority for government housing, single people like Ng, Cheng and Yuen face a seeming interminable wait, and their hopes for moving out of their tiny bunk spaces are waning.

"If I were younger, I could work hard to save for a down payment" to buy an apartment, Yuen said. As it is, she said, "I do not have much hope in the future. I am just living from one day to the next."

© 2013, The New York Times News Service
 
Singapore is not too far off from such a situation..I think we actually already there
 
Singapore is not too far off from such a situation..I think we actually already there

The Sinkie are already there.

If not, why would you be seeing meaning posts depicting low class life style problems here ..everyday?

As if their PAP master would be 'interested'.

The folks here is worse than those in HK. No welfare, high cost of living, medical cost unbelievable, kenna fucked by FT over everything and worse made to be painted as RICH by their rulers, while debts pile high, pawn and money lending shops coming out all over the place...and Sinkie suicide rate goes way up.

And more 'living squatters' painted high class being bulit everywhere to cater for the huge influx of FTs.

The common breed Sinkie are doomed.
 
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The difference is the PAP is able to hide those who are homeless in govt shelters and no pictures of such shelters made public.

The Sinkie are already there.

If not, why would you be seeing meaning posts depicting low class life style problems here ..everyday?

As if their PAP master would be 'interested'.

The folks here is worse than those in HK. No welfare, high cost of living, medical cost unbelievable, kenna fucked by FT over everything and worse made to be painted as RICH by their rulers, while debts pile high, pawn and money lending shops coming out all over the place...and Sinkie suicide rate goes way up.

And more 'living squatters' painted high class being bulit everywhere to cater for the huge influx of FTs.

The common breed Sinkie are doomed.
 
The difference is the PAP is able to hide those who are homeless in govt shelters and no pictures of such shelters made public.

Then why don't you go to such a shelter, take pictures and post them??
 
Then why don't you go to such a shelter, take pictures and post them??

Why you always ask people to do things one? If you don't believe, don't lah. You are tucked inside your 2,000 sq feet condo and you think everybody lives like you.
 
Why you always ask people to do things one? If you don't believe, don't lah. You are tucked inside your 2,000 sq feet condo and you think everybody lives like you.

You think he got standard to stay in 2000sqft condo? Ptui him....
I think this chow ah neh rents utility room in toa payoh hdb 3 room nia...
 
Hong Kong got far better social welfare right ?


over-population is the root of all problems.........maybe Bill Gates should start giving free vaccines in Hong Kong to reduce population
 
Over population is the problem,,that is why the best thing PAP everdid was the 2 child policy and graduate mom scheme. The former was to control the population and the latter was to ensure trailer park trash do not breed,,,but unfortunately the pap went into rent seeking mode to boost gdp at the cost of the people's welfare. In addition you have the left wing bleeding heart liberal assholes that encourages people to breed indiscriminately,..that is why we have an overpopulation problem the world over and life is just getting worse for the 'survivors'.

this is the world we live in and people still encouraged to breed,,stupid gahmen policy the world over.

Hong Kong got far better social welfare right ?


over-population is the root of all problems.........maybe Bill Gates should start giving free vaccines in Hong Kong to reduce population
 
Why you always ask people to do things one? If you don't believe, don't lah. You are tucked inside your 2,000 sq feet condo and you think everybody lives like you.

Talk is cheap. If you think your government hides the homeless, go into one of those shelters, interview people, take videos and photos. Great! Do you really expect people to join your cause because of a few words from some anonymous person on some forum?

You should appreciate me more for trying to help.
 
The common breed Sinkie are doomed.

:eek::eek::eek: the prophesy is true! nobody will be left behind, if you're a nobody, you've been informed...
then sinkie sheep leh?
 
Talk is cheap. If you think your government hides the homeless, go into one of those shelters, interview people, take videos and photos. Great! Do you really expect people to join your cause because of a few words from some anonymous person on some forum?

You should appreciate me more for trying to help.

Help my foot! Your brain coming to be like the PAP brain. I give you benefit the doubt but everytime you post ah, you show your bias.
You want to help, then you volunteer to take the photos and post lah.

You don't like the talk, don;t listen lor.

You think sinkapore so open ah? If everything is transparent, there won't be any support the PAP.
 
the sg warm climate and numerous hdb void decks are very conducive for homelessness. i have always dreamed of sleeping on a hammock tied between two hdb pillars in a void deck. warm, breezy, soothing, away from rain, constantly seeing rubba rubba action at lift landings and stairways. :D
 
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Hong Kong's per-capita gross domestic product is higher than that of Italy, and not far short of those of Britain and France, according to World Bank figures. But for unskilled or semi-skilled people like Ng, the city is a tough place to be,

This is the way nature intended it to be.

If the have nots are given comfortable lives by the haves, the motivation to improve their lot is gone and they'll lose whatever work ethic they have left and become even more useless.

This trait will then be passed down to the next generation and history will repeat itself.
 
This is the way nature intended it to be.

If the have nots are given comfortable lives by the haves, the motivation to improve their lot is gone and they'll lose whatever work ethic they have left and become even more useless.

This trait will then be passed down to the next generation and history will repeat itself.

I thought there was a difference between animals and humans.
 
I thought there was a difference between animals and humans.

Therein lies the root cause of your flawed logic. We may be higher in the evolutionary scale but below the surface lurks a living species that is the product of the same laws of nature that governs all life.
 
I thought there was a difference between animals and humans.

there's no difference.

in greece, there's social welfare, food/medical assistance and spa treatment or shampoo aid for stray dogs. no kidding. twice a week "animal control" will round up the dogs, transport them to an animal welfare shelter, wash them up (yes, with shampoo), feed them excessively (so they don't go hungry in 2 days and there's no need to round them up daily), conduct medical checks and treat them for fleas and ailments, let them luxuriate in the shelter for a day until it's overcrowded, and return them to their favorite haunts where they were picked up a day earlier. :eek:

you'll find them fat, lazy, sleeping under shades all over in greece. they don't have to do anything other than shitting and sleeping idle because tender loving care comes twice a week! :rolleyes:

same with pigeons anywhere in europe. they cannot survive in the wild anymore due to "softness" and "pity" of humans. feeding/caring for animals is actually killing them and assisting in the eventual extermination of their species. :*:
 
there's no difference.

in greece, there's social welfare, food/medical assistance and spa treatment or shampoo aid for stray dogs. no kidding. twice a week "animal control" will round up the dogs, transport them to an animal welfare shelter, wash them up (yes, with shampoo), feed them excessively (so they don't go hungry in 2 days and there's no need to round them up daily), conduct medical checks and treat them for fleas and ailments, let them luxuriate in the shelter for a day until it's overcrowded, and return them to their favorite haunts where they were picked up a day earlier. :eek:

you'll find them fat, lazy, sleeping under shades all over in greece. they don't have to do anything other than shitting and sleeping idle because tender loving care comes twice a week! :rolleyes:

same with pigeons anywhere in europe. they cannot survive in the wild anymore due to "softness" and "pity" of humans. feeding/caring for animals is actually killing them and assisting in the eventual extermination of their species. :*:

If the Europeans eat the animals and people who live off the government, then their fiscal woes will be solved? :D
 
If the Europeans eat the animals and people who live off the government, then their fiscal woes will be solved? :D

there's no need to prey on the weak and defenseless. they should let nature takes its course. let wild and stray animals do their wild thing, and let the homeless and destitute die off a quiet peaceful death. cremating their corpses is necessary to prevent outbreaks of plague or other poverty-induced diseases. :D
 
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