Has Singapore's education failed the Malay Community?

[TerrexLee]

And so this difficult yet somewhat controversial question was finally raised by a brave soul at Reddit Singapore, where he cited excerpts of a recent conversation with a Malay friend and produced thoughtful perspectives based on his personal experiences:

"Was speaking to a Malay friend last night about how highly educated members of the Malay community in Singapore were and wondered why so many folks ended up in the Normal Technical Stream. He cited the fact that Malay families are too big and a significant number of them get started too early. To me, that doesn't make sense because there are also quite a few Chinese families that are quite big in size and they still do relatively well.
I personally feel that Malay families are more supportive towards their kids chasing their own dreams. Unfortunately for them, their dreams in Singapore just don't pay off financially; ultimately many of them have to endure a long and tedious process before ever achieving the slightest iota of tangible success.
Growing up, I studied in the Normal Academic stream and frankly this does something to your self-esteem. Even though I've caught up with my peers since, I always had a chip on my shoulders owing to the fact I had to work doubly hard to arrive at where I am today. With so many Malay kids being assigned to the Normal Technical stream, something ought to be done to at least minimize the stigma associated with this tier of secondary school education, which is often seen as reserved only for the less academically inclined."

Not unexpectedly many Reddiporeans chimed in with their viewpoints, some exerting that an individual's determination to make something of himself supersedes racial considerations. Others cited cultural differences, one's access to resources and the manner of upbringing as possible influencing factors. Then again, is the comparison between the academic achievements of Malays and Chinese (or any other race for that matter) even a fair one? More importantly, is the Singapore education system really complicit in not doing enough to give the Malay community a proper leg-up like everyone else, and meritocracy just a mere hip buzzword bandied about by the government? Food for thought by netizens showcased below:

https://www.domainofexperts.com/2018/02/has-singapores-education-failed-malay.html​

 

[rushifa666]

When you touch shit withyour hands i am supposed to think you are highly educated?

 

[nayr69sg]

And so this difficult yet somewhat controversial question was finally raised by a brave soul at Reddit Singapore, where he cited excerpts of a recent conversation with a Malay friend and produced thoughtful perspectives based on his personal experiences:

"Was speaking to a Malay friend last night about how highly educated members of the Malay community in Singapore were and wondered why so many folks ended up in the Normal Technical Stream. He cited the fact that Malay families are too big and a significant number of them get started too early. To me, that doesn't make sense because there are also quite a few Chinese families that are quite big in size and they still do relatively well.
I personally feel that Malay families are more supportive towards their kids chasing their own dreams. Unfortunately for them, their dreams in Singapore just don't pay off financially; ultimately many of them have to endure a long and tedious process before ever achieving the slightest iota of tangible success.
Growing up, I studied in the Normal Academic stream and frankly this does something to your self-esteem. Even though I've caught up with my peers since, I always had a chip on my shoulders owing to the fact I had to work doubly hard to arrive at where I am today. With so many Malay kids being assigned to the Normal Technical stream, something ought to be done to at least minimize the stigma associated with this tier of secondary school education, which is often seen as reserved only for the less academically inclined."

Not unexpectedly many Reddiporeans chimed in with their viewpoints, some exerting that an individual's determination to make something of himself supersedes racial considerations. Others cited cultural differences, one's access to resources and the manner of upbringing as possible influencing factors. Then again, is the comparison between the academic achievements of Malays and Chinese (or any other race for that matter) even a fair one? More importantly, is the Singapore education system really complicit in not doing enough to give the Malay community a proper leg-up like everyone else, and meritocracy just a mere hip buzzword bandied about by the government? Food for thought by netizens showcased below:

https://www.domainofexperts.com/2018/02/has-singapores-education-failed-malay.html​

Malays in Malaysia are doing very well. Many are business owners.

Bumiputera policy.​

Maybe Singaporeans want to help Malays in Singapore? Also adopt same policy in Singapore?

Would be good for the Malay community in Singapore for sure.

 

[A Singaporean]

Not much can be done if you have low IQ. A crow cannot turn into a phoenix.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Actually why never highlights the issue that 'm&ds start early'? Overall it is better for singkieland to continue with the best policy ever.. the stop at 2.

SPP’s Khan Osman Sulaiman explains why the rising proportion of Malays living in rental flats an “anomaly” - The Online Citizen Asia
SPP’s Khan Osman Sulaiman explains why the rising proportion of Malays living in rental flats an “anomaly”
Singapore People’s Party (SPP) member Khan Osman Sulaiman on Tuesday (31 Aug) indicated the rising proportion of Malay households living in rental flats as an “anomaly”, given that the Census 2020 data showed more Malays were attaining post-secondary or higher qualifications across all age groups.

“How is it possible to have a rising proportion of Malays living in rental flats?” he wrote in a Facebook post.

Mr Osman was referring to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s National Day Rally speech on 29 Aug, who highlighted a worrying trend of home ownership in Singapore’s Malay-Muslim community.

PM Lee cited the Census 2020 data, which showed that that the proportion of Malay households in one- and two-room Housing and Development Board (HDB) rental flats increased from about 9,100 in 2010 to about 18,600 last year.

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The Prime Minister suggested that this increase could be attributed to several reasons, such as how some young married couples who want to live independently before they are ready to buy a flat.

While this is understandable, he said that there are also some couples who may have suffered sudden changes in family or financial circumstances, or who may be facing complex challenges and have difficulties planning for their future.

However, Mr Osman highlighted that the Census 2020 data also showed that there were more Malays attaining post-secondary or higher qualifications across all age groups, with the increase even more significant for younger Malays.

It was reported that among Malay residents aged 25 years and over, nearly half had post-secondary or higher qualifications last year, compared with less than a third in 2010. This was even higher for Malays aged 25 to 34, of whom eight in 10 had post-secondary or higher qualifications in 2020.

The community was also among the most improved in the area of below-secondary qualifications for those aged 25 and older, with a drop from 41.4 per cent to 28.9 per cent over the same period.

“It is a common understanding that education has been and is a way out of poverty. It is also a way to improve our lives. If the above holds true, then it isn’t logical that there’s a rising proportion of Malays who can’t afford a home,” said Mr Osman.

He continued: “This anomaly can easily be explained away – the acute lack of opportunities made available for the Malay community. It matters little what we can achieve but without opportunities, nothing much can improve.”

Noting that the Census 2020 compares data from the period which coincides with the government relaxing immigration policies, Mr Osman noted that the Malay community has been facing “institutional discrimination” even before the “immigration floodgate” was opened.

“With race-based policies in the government uniformed groups, coupled with our liberal immigration policies and CECA in place, it is no wonder that the Malay community finds it hard to gain a footing despite showing marked improvements in our educational achievement.

“So if PM Lee and Mr Masagos are sincere in addressing the situation, they don’t need to look far and wide for solutions. Just nip the problem in its bud starting from its own backyard. Anything else is just lip service,” he remarked.

Authorities to reach out to members of Malay community to encourage them to “aspire their own homes”: Minister Masagos Zulkifli
Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs Masagos Zulkifli said on 29 Aug that the growing proportion of Malays living in rental flats could become an entrenched problem if these families no longer aspire to own their own homes.

Speaking to the media after PM Lee delivered his NDR 2021 speech, Mr Masagos noted that “rental homes are quite cheap and very affordable”.

“And if they get used to it and they don’t aspire to move into owning homes, then we are worried that we will have a generation who might be entrenched in living in rental homes,” he said, as quoted by TODAY.

Mr Masagos noted that the authorities are working to reach out to members of the Malay community to pass on the message that they “must aspire to own homes, because this is an asset that every Singaporean should have and should not give up on”.

Noting that the statistic coincided with a decline in the number of persons per household, the Minister observed that the issue came about largely because HDB had provided more rental flats to help address overcrowding in Malay homes.

Young couples who were unprepared to own a home ended up moving into these rental flats, he said, adding that the problem can deteriorate as “on a short-term basis, it is much cheaper than putting deposits or paying mortgage for their own home”.

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[syed putra]

Malays in Malaysia are doing very well. Many are business owners.

Bumiputera policy.​

Maybe Singaporeans want to help Malays in Singapore? Also adopt same policy in Singapore?

Would be good for the Malay community in Singapore for sure.

Many malay companies in Jiu Hu will die if this privilege given to them are taken away.
I only know of very few successful " organic " malay companies I,e. Ramly burger. And because of this, many other malays followed his footsteps and now there are several burger and mince meat companies which are running without gomen handouts.

The other is satay haji samuri. They have many branches all over klang valley mostly at highway rest areas.. Fast service. Like mcdonalds.open for lunch which is unlike other satay places which are open for dinner only.

Apart from these are the mega restaurants like ayam kampung and ikan bakar. These are pack during lunch and no dinner.

Others are mostly political or gomen linked or companies and they are fully filled with highly paid group CEo's, Cfo's, Coo's, plus major shareholder who are probably nominees but when it comes to meetings, politicians will come and dictate the terms. Very strange. No wonder these companies cannot function properly.
And to arrange a meeting with these politicians is not easy.

The rest gets license to import meat cars, fish etc which are closed to non bumis. Take away these monopolies and imported food may cost less. My thoughts.

 

[A Singaporean]

With the influx of CECAs, Cina are taking jobs previously held by m&d including grab delivery. m&d are now left with nothing.

 

[syed putra]

Actually why never highlights the issue that 'm&ds start early'? Overall it is better for singkieland to continue with the best policy ever.. the stop at 2.

SPP’s Khan Osman Sulaiman explains why the rising proportion of Malays living in rental flats an “anomaly” - The Online Citizen Asia
SPP’s Khan Osman Sulaiman explains why the rising proportion of Malays living in rental flats an “anomaly”
Singapore People’s Party (SPP) member Khan Osman Sulaiman on Tuesday (31 Aug) indicated the rising proportion of Malay households living in rental flats as an “anomaly”, given that the Census 2020 data showed more Malays were attaining post-secondary or higher qualifications across all age groups.

“How is it possible to have a rising proportion of Malays living in rental flats?” he wrote in a Facebook post.

Mr Osman was referring to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s National Day Rally speech on 29 Aug, who highlighted a worrying trend of home ownership in Singapore’s Malay-Muslim community.

PM Lee cited the Census 2020 data, which showed that that the proportion of Malay households in one- and two-room Housing and Development Board (HDB) rental flats increased from about 9,100 in 2010 to about 18,600 last year.

Learn more
The Prime Minister suggested that this increase could be attributed to several reasons, such as how some young married couples who want to live independently before they are ready to buy a flat.

While this is understandable, he said that there are also some couples who may have suffered sudden changes in family or financial circumstances, or who may be facing complex challenges and have difficulties planning for their future.

However, Mr Osman highlighted that the Census 2020 data also showed that there were more Malays attaining post-secondary or higher qualifications across all age groups, with the increase even more significant for younger Malays.

It was reported that among Malay residents aged 25 years and over, nearly half had post-secondary or higher qualifications last year, compared with less than a third in 2010. This was even higher for Malays aged 25 to 34, of whom eight in 10 had post-secondary or higher qualifications in 2020.

The community was also among the most improved in the area of below-secondary qualifications for those aged 25 and older, with a drop from 41.4 per cent to 28.9 per cent over the same period.

“It is a common understanding that education has been and is a way out of poverty. It is also a way to improve our lives. If the above holds true, then it isn’t logical that there’s a rising proportion of Malays who can’t afford a home,” said Mr Osman.

He continued: “This anomaly can easily be explained away – the acute lack of opportunities made available for the Malay community. It matters little what we can achieve but without opportunities, nothing much can improve.”

Noting that the Census 2020 compares data from the period which coincides with the government relaxing immigration policies, Mr Osman noted that the Malay community has been facing “institutional discrimination” even before the “immigration floodgate” was opened.

“With race-based policies in the government uniformed groups, coupled with our liberal immigration policies and CECA in place, it is no wonder that the Malay community finds it hard to gain a footing despite showing marked improvements in our educational achievement.

“So if PM Lee and Mr Masagos are sincere in addressing the situation, they don’t need to look far and wide for solutions. Just nip the problem in its bud starting from its own backyard. Anything else is just lip service,” he remarked.

Authorities to reach out to members of Malay community to encourage them to “aspire their own homes”: Minister Masagos Zulkifli
Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs Masagos Zulkifli said on 29 Aug that the growing proportion of Malays living in rental flats could become an entrenched problem if these families no longer aspire to own their own homes.

Speaking to the media after PM Lee delivered his NDR 2021 speech, Mr Masagos noted that “rental homes are quite cheap and very affordable”.

“And if they get used to it and they don’t aspire to move into owning homes, then we are worried that we will have a generation who might be entrenched in living in rental homes,” he said, as quoted by TODAY.

Mr Masagos noted that the authorities are working to reach out to members of the Malay community to pass on the message that they “must aspire to own homes, because this is an asset that every Singaporean should have and should not give up on”.

Noting that the statistic coincided with a decline in the number of persons per household, the Minister observed that the issue came about largely because HDB had provided more rental flats to help address overcrowding in Malay homes.

Young couples who were unprepared to own a home ended up moving into these rental flats, he said, adding that the problem can deteriorate as “on a short-term basis, it is much cheaper than putting deposits or paying mortgage for their own home”.

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For the chinese, they have the advantage of overseas contacts to trade and do business. Same eith indians. Not so the malays. What you have in java, you can find similar items in KL, sulawesi or sumatra.

 

[melzp]

After wiping off kampongs, the next option is rental flat. What else ? Changi beach?

 

[borom]

A lot has to do with the govt policy esp of the party that has been entrenched for so long.
In its eagerness to punch above its weight, be so called world class ect2, PAP has chosen the short cut way of mass importation of so called foreign talent.
Thousands of scholarships were given to foreigners and their so called open policy has deprived locals of tertiary educational opportunities, job opportunities and caused many to be retrenched by their forties.

PAP could have chosen to invest more heavily in locals eg by giving free education to locals up to tertiary first degree level, free public transport to school children ect2 but no, it chose instead to give thousands of scholarships to foreigners ,and reserve thousands of places in universities for outsiders .
CECA is not a racial issue but PAP choose to paint it so- just ask local Indians what they think of CECA.
Is the PAP saying each and every job done by a CECA cannot be done by a local Indian or Malay?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

For the chinese, they have the advantage of overseas contacts to trade and do business. Same eith indians. Not so the malays. What you have in java, you can find similar items in KL, sulawesi or sumatra.

That is just a m&d excuse. Dont the m&ds have home ground advantage? N in the constitution, m&ds get free education...

 

[Leongsam]

And so this difficult yet somewhat controversial question was finally raised by a brave soul at Reddit Singapore, where he cited excerpts of a recent conversation with a Malay friend and produced thoughtful perspectives based on his personal experiences:

"Was speaking to a Malay friend last night about how highly educated members of the Malay community in Singapore were and wondered why so many folks ended up in the Normal Technical Stream. He cited the fact that Malay families are too big and a significant number of them get started too early. To me, that doesn't make sense because there are also quite a few Chinese families that are quite big in size and they still do relatively well.
I personally feel that Malay families are more supportive towards their kids chasing their own dreams. Unfortunately for them, their dreams in Singapore just don't pay off financially; ultimately many of them have to endure a long and tedious process before ever achieving the slightest iota of tangible success.
Growing up, I studied in the Normal Academic stream and frankly this does something to your self-esteem. Even though I've caught up with my peers since, I always had a chip on my shoulders owing to the fact I had to work doubly hard to arrive at where I am today. With so many Malay kids being assigned to the Normal Technical stream, something ought to be done to at least minimize the stigma associated with this tier of secondary school education, which is often seen as reserved only for the less academically inclined."

Not unexpectedly many Reddiporeans chimed in with their viewpoints, some exerting that an individual's determination to make something of himself supersedes racial considerations. Others cited cultural differences, one's access to resources and the manner of upbringing as possible influencing factors. Then again, is the comparison between the academic achievements of Malays and Chinese (or any other race for that matter) even a fair one? More importantly, is the Singapore education system really complicit in not doing enough to give the Malay community a proper leg-up like everyone else, and meritocracy just a mere hip buzzword bandied about by the government? Food for thought by netizens showcased below:

https://www.domainofexperts.com/2018/02/has-singapores-education-failed-malay.html​

The Malay community has failed the education system.

 

[syed putra]

That is just a m&d excuse. Dont the m&ds have home ground advantage? N in the constitution, m&ds get free education...

Plus very limited work avenues even if you do pass through the education system.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Plus very limited work avenues even if you do pass through the education system.

Why is that?

 

[syed putra]

Why is that?

No speak mandarin, no pork

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

For the chinese, they have the advantage of overseas contacts to trade and do business. Same eith indians. Not so the malays. What you have in java, you can find similar items in KL, sulawesi or sumatra.

as decendants of orang asli, bumi hv headstart. ie chulup kepala butoh

 

[syed putra]

The Malay community has failed the education system.

Normally, malays are most likely to join the army or police but that have been limited. Msybe a fishing academy for malay students should be introduced. As a way to earn a living.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

No speak mandarin, no pork

Than how come we got an ah neh President posing as a mudslime? And what is wrong with pork and alcohol?

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

No speak mandarin, no pork

itz alright git freefucks from dotters sis mothers n grannies

 

[syed putra]

as decendants of orang asli, bumi hv headstart. ie chulup kepala butoh

Otang asli and malays live within the environment.
Chinese will come and flatten the entire area down.