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Dear King

I believe the archives will hold some surprises as to the extent that LKY had to compromise in order to hold on to the support of his colleagues or to the extent that he had to adjust his views to their ideas. He may have been dominant in his prime , but his dominance had to be tempered by the fact that he was on a team who co founded the PAP with him. They might not have been willing to challenge him politically but the quid pro pro for the old guard was a greater lee way for dissent and independence then most people think.

Btw I am talking old guard as in LKY and his cabinet and close supporters.



Locke
 
Locke shall be the Secretary-General of the next new party, the Liberal Party (LP). Cleareyes shall be the Chairman.
 
Dear Locke,

I have no problem in recruiting people with BETTER Caliber (perceived or otherwise) into my rank and file. If they feel that they could perform BETTER POLITICALLY than me and they should take charge of the party, I am more than willing to stand aside for them to take the wheel.

As for "management" of people is very different from "caliber" of all other triads.


Goh Meng Seng




Dear GMS

The opposition in Singapore suffers from an excess of ego pride and ambition without delivering any noteworthy results. Singapore and democracy has suffered for it. I can't help but shake my head in despair at the number of idiots and robots who want to be Indian Chiefs with no indians to speak about.

Ng Teck Siong and that ugly saga over the reform party is illustrative of the excesses and stupidity within the opposition camp and why it will never attract real political talent nor groom them for that matter. The personal need to be in control and to be king of their own mountain however small and ineffectual overrides any instinct for the greater good.

Who or what was Ng Teck Siong without JB ? Was he a figurehead or was he someone in his own right an opposition political leader ? Who was he or how could he hope to stop or even control the rise of KJ in his father's party ? Was his notion of him using KJ for his own political ambitions nothing short of delusional ? And the fact that he sets up his own party after leaving RP points to his own naked political ambition.

My dear GMS after having climbed the slippery slope to the top........how much political ambition can you take from people below you ? Or for that matter would you even recruit five or six kj 's and TKLs into your party ? How would you lead them and on what basis ? That is the nature of politics




Locke
 
Was his notion of him using KJ for his own political ambitions nothing short of delusional ?

No Ng Teck Siong didn't try to use KJ. The problem started when he did NOT want to use KJ. He didn't want KJ as leader as he felt KJ was not experienced.
 
No Ng Teck Siong didn't try to use KJ. The problem started when he did NOT want to use KJ. He didn't want KJ as leader as he felt KJ was not experienced.

the impression nts gives is that he is a deadwood trying to stop the world from revolving.

i don't thnk that he was willing or ready to to give up his authority when he was voted out from RP

the younger ng saw an opportunity to exploit him and pitted him against KJ as a concealed resentment he had which was contrary to why he still joined RP instead of SDP. the last know hideout of his is SDP. why took a detour to RP in the first place?

something wasn't right.
 
Dear Locke,

I have no problem in recruiting people with BETTER Caliber (perceived or otherwise) into my rank and file. If they feel that they could perform BETTER POLITICALLY than me and they should take charge of the party, I am more than willing to stand aside for them to take the wheel.

As for "management" of people is very different from "caliber" of all other triads.


Goh Meng Seng


"better calibre" people are better off setting up new opp parties and put themselves high on the pedestal throne.:rolleyes:
 
I have no problem in recruiting people with BETTER Caliber (perceived or otherwise) into my rank and file. If they feel that they could perform BETTER POLITICALLY than me and they should take charge of the party, I am more than willing to stand aside for them to take the wheel.

This is the classic oxymoron. You decide who's better. You're still the best. That was Deng Xiaoping ideology then. That's Lee Kuan Yew ideology now. They both agreed that it's best to shoot 200,000 if they demonstrate.
 
For a long time, Goh Meng Seng, Jaslyn Go and Chia Ti Lik were few of those who used their real identities to post in Sammyboy forum.

Today, all 3 are secretary generals of parties. Goh Meng Seng is NSP Sec-Gen, Jaslyn Go USD Sec-Gen and Chia Ti Lik is likely to be Socialist Front (SF) protem Sec-Gen since only his name was announced (other than Ng Teck Siong).

Who says Sammyboy forum is just a forum?

These are 'lau kar kui kor' sec-gens lah. 'Mo lung yong' type of politicians. Dead wood and washouts.

Those sec-gens in parliament are wise to choose where they participate in discussions - things that matter!


:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:
 
so something wasn't right .... mmm

you steal temple money is RIGHT!

you bash your father until bloody is RIGHT!

you call your mother laucheebai is RIGHT!

you backstabbed people you tried to befriend is RIGHT!

you tried to con a forummer's property is RIGHT!

you cursed an old man at his death bed is RIGHT!

you claim to be still a virgin but the truth is because you never use your lanjiao but enjoy having lanjiao is RIGHT!

the above are not right!

Be happy that you are the most ridiculed, most derided, most laughed at forummer here, for no one can imagine what bigger a failure in life you are in person ..... this is definitely RIGHT!

Actually I'm puzzled why this guy never ever took anyone to the court since these are definitely defamation cases. Why huh???

It's true then?????

If it's true then this bugger really has skin comparable in thickness to jumbo!

kekekekekeke


:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:
 
everything about chee is also true.

i m their long lost father is also true:D
 
These are 'lau kar kui kor' sec-gens lah. 'Mo lung yong' type of politicians. Dead wood and washouts.

Those sec-gens in parliament are wise to choose where they participate in discussions - things that matter!


:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

Oppo Sec Gens who can:

1. J B Jeyaratnam
2. Chiam See Tong
3. Low Thia Khiang
4. Steve Chia

Oppo Chairmen who can:

1. Lee Siew Choh
2. Ling How Doong (until he sided with the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan and Bukit Gombak gave him one tight slap and the Singapore electorate never forgot him)
3. Sylvia Lim

Oppo Sec Gens who cannot:

1. MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan
2. Ken Sun

Oppo Sec Gens yet to be proven:

1. Goh Meng Seng
2. Jaslyn Go
3. Chia Ti Lik
 
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