Fivestars & NSP's Official Stand -Please clarify

[scroobal]

It maybe prudent for NSP to make it clear once and for all if the person behind the moniker "Fiverstars" is in anyway an official representative of NSP.

This chap has made some ridiculous comments many of which was racially insensitive including comments that claim that PAP is supported by Indians and Malays.

As he has been sending out messages in regard to meetings and gatherings of NSP, no one can be blamed if he is perceived to be an official rep.

Pointless having a well constructed agenda with someone chipping away at the base with insensitive and poorly constructed and ridiculous analyses and yet making NSP annoucements with no one else from NSP correcting it.

 

[Ramseth]

Since he's using a moniker instead of his real name (e.g. in the case of Goh Meng Seng) I think we shouldn't take his postings as officially representative of NSP, even if he claims so (which I think he don't).

 

[scroobal]

There is no else making annoucements on NSP matters except him in an officious manner. What do you think the perception is ?

Not only that, no party official has made any attempt to distance themselves from his comments.

Guess who was using a moniker to invite netizens of WP events?

Since he's using a moniker instead of his real name (e.g. in the case of Goh Meng Seng) I think we shouldn't take his postings as officially representative of NSP, even if he claims so (which I think he don't).

 

[Perspective]

It maybe prudent for NSP to make it clear once and for all if the person behind the moniker "Fiverstars" is in anyway an official representative of NSP.

This chap has made some ridiculous comments many of which was racially insensitive including comments that claim that PAP is supported by Indians and Malays.

As he has been sending out messages in regard to meetings and gatherings of NSP, no one can be blamed if he is perceived to be an official rep.

Pointless having a well constructed agenda with someone chipping away at the base with insensitive and poorly constructed and ridiculous analyses and yet making NSP annoucements with no one else from NSP correcting it.

Firstly, is Fivestar with the NSP?

Second, has he written only and purely on NSP matters?

Thirdly, would a spokesperson who is appointed be using a nick?

I think answers to the above are all no. And I think no one knows, that is why no one stopped. Somewhere in another forum, there might be people posting everything RP or SDA. Even the PAP is unable to monitor the whole internet.

 

[cleareyes]

It maybe prudent for NSP to make it clear once and for all if the person behind the moniker "Fiverstars" is in anyway an official representative of NSP.

This chap has made some ridiculous comments many of which was racially insensitive including comments that claim that PAP is supported by Indians and Malays.

As he has been sending out messages in regard to meetings and gatherings of NSP, no one can be blamed if he is perceived to be an official rep.

Pointless having a well constructed agenda with someone chipping away at the base with insensitive and poorly constructed and ridiculous analyses and yet making NSP annoucements with no one else from NSP correcting it.

Fivestar is very pro-chinese and pro-malaysia. does that mean NSP is having the same stand?

if its so, fivestar is giving PAP fuel for fire in the coming election as a party that does not have singapore"s interest.

so does NSP care abt this?

 

[scroobal]

There is only one person that is making annoucements on NSP events and it is Fivestars.

Rightly or wrongly people would make the link to NSP. NSP would then have to bear the results of that association if no one corrects it.

Fivestar is very pro-chinese and pro-malaysia. does that mean NSP is having the same stand?

if its so, fivestar is giving PAP fuel for fire in the coming election as a party that does not have singapore"s interest.

so does NSP care abt this?

 

[Ramseth]

Scroobal, if political parties spend their precious and already limited time and manpower resources fighting wild bush fires, then I'm worried. How many websites and wild postings can any political party keep monitoring and replying? Even not PAP can cover them all.

You're taking this forum too seriously. I don't think this forum is worth more than a swing of 5 to 10 votes, whichever way.

 

[scroobal]

There has only been one individual with strong views along racial lines sending out officious sounding annoucements involving only one party.

Can you name any others in this or any other forum?

Scroobal, if political parties spend their precious and already limited time and manpower resources fighting wild bush fires, then I'm worried. How many websites and wild postings can any political party keep monitoring and replying? Even not PAP can cover them all.

 

[cleareyes]

Scroobal, if political parties spend their precious and already limited time and manpower resources fighting wild bush fires, then I'm worried. How many websites and wild postings can any political party keep monitoring and replying? Even not PAP can cover them all.

Some fires can be ignored as they will just die away on their own. Some fires cannot be ignored as when you dun watch over it, it could burn out of control and destroy anyone, related or not.

So what is fivestar? a fire to be ignored or a fire that would burn down NSP and even the rest of the opposition?

Imgaine had PAP quizzed NSP on the position of fivestar, what he had been doing and his relations to NSP and NSP is unable to give a good answer, what will happen then? What then will you say when PAP drags the rest of the opposotion parties along wth NSP to be roasted just because of what fivestar had taken position on?

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

To be honest, personally, I don't know whether Fivestar is NSP member or not but I am very sure that he is not a "spokesman" of NSP. I shouldn't be seen as "spokesman" of NSP as well.

The spokesman of the NSP has to be the party President or Secretary General.

Even if Fivestar is a NSP member, I think I will respect his freedom of speech, no matter how ridiculous some people may view it. Well even PAP ministers and MPs don't make sense some time, so what's not?

Goh Meng Seng

 

[fivestars]

This chap has made some ridiculous comments many of which was racially insensitive including comments that claim that PAP is supported by Indians and Malays.

1) I can claim for Malays and Indians votes for PAP. Or the voters had voted PAP? (2006)

I am not Allah or Nabi MD no;2 or Iman Mahadi.

2) Minority Malays and Indians voted Opposition. Majority Malays and Indians voted PAP. 40% of 75% Chinese voted opposition and 60% of 75% Chinese voted PAP. PAP voters are Rich, Elite, Financial Assistant holder, VWO, GLC, GIC, MNCs and government staffs. This is fact or presume? or observe during voting day?

This is fact of view from Singaporean or Malaysian or both? Why?

Do you know some Malaysian Malay hate Singapore Malay? The Different.

Do not blame me for taking Malaysian Balacan. I am not that smelly that you think. I am not the minority Malay that voted opposition. I am Chinese speaking good malay not the Englandish. Post 1963 Malaysia spirit.

 

[Ramseth]

Imgaine had PAP quizzed NSP on the position of fivestar, what he had been doing and his relations to NSP and NSP is unable to give a good answer, what will happen then? What then will you say when PAP drags the rest of the opposotion parties along wth NSP to be roasted just because of what fivestar had taken position on?

If that happens, the best reply is "who's fivestar?"

 

[leetahbar]

If that happens, the best reply is "who's fivestar?"

all roads lead to rome and all clones lead to ____________ (mastershapeshifter, perhaps)

goh meng seng has always been targeted by such characters like lamei, avantas aka ...aka...aka...limtuakang..aka... and etc. even that chiatilik couldn't be spared from suspicion. all these people are little people with petty vengefulness. the nerd or mastershapeshifter is a snake.

do not overlook those suspects.

 

[Perspective]

Scroobal, if political parties spend their precious and already limited time and manpower resources fighting wild bush fires, then I'm worried. How many websites and wild postings can any political party keep monitoring and replying? Even not PAP can cover them all.

You're taking this forum too seriously. I don't think this forum is worth more than a swing of 5 to 10 votes, whichever way.

Yes, I think Sammyboy forum - in whatever past and present incarnations, Delphi, VB - have not swung more than 1 full percentage of the votes in any general election throughout its existence. Personally I think if any "damage" could be done to NSP, Goh Meng Seng could do more.

 

[guavatree]

all roads lead to rome and all clones lead to ____________ (mastershapeshifter, perhaps)goh meng seng has always been targeted by such characters like lamei, avantas aka ...aka...aka...limtuakang..aka... and etc. even that chiatilik couldn't be spared from suspicion. all these people are little people with petty vengefulness. the nerd or mastershapeshifter is a snake.do not overlook those suspects.)

lanjiao sucking unemployed parasite old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, betrayer, all rolled into one!

you're a fucking moron pretend to be an innocent pig!

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Yes, I think Sammyboy forum - in whatever past and present incarnations, Delphi, VB - have not swung more than 1 full percentage of the votes in any general election throughout its existence. Personally I think if any "damage" could be done to NSP, Goh Meng Seng could do more.

I really don't know I am that "influential" to start with... can do great damage to a political party!

Well at the very least I didn't vote for PAP neither did I keep asking people to quit the party if they don't agree with the leadership. Worse even, if I did both and yet I am re-elected as CEC member and worse, appointed as key appointment holders like Organizing Secretary or Youth Wing office bearers, then that would be great damage to NSP.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[fivestars]

pro-chinese and pro-malaysia. if its so, fivestar is giving PAP fuel for fire in the coming election as a party that does not have singapore"s interest.

Pro Chinese

I never said I only trust Chinese in SAF or Cisco.

I am Pro Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Nantah. More on culture and language. I am also support Malay and Tamil culture and language.

Pro Malaysia.

It is Lee Kuan Yew who merge with Malaysia. Not me or Barisan Socialist. Some promise with Tuanku if Malaysia and Singapore will merge again if come to a political agrement point. (Dr M and LKY had big problem on this issue) Maybe Chinese or Indian can be Malaysia PM. After independent, some of UMNO system to help Malay will continue in Singapore silently.

It is Chiam See Tong from SDA. Who Pro Malaysia in Economy Union. I am Malaysia Economy Union supporter. I wish Singapore Opposition will make it success. It can be done.

Opposition pledge us as one united people, regardless of race, language or religion to build a democratic society based on justice and equality to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress for our nation.

And Opposition and Malaysia agreed with Malaysia Economy Union and Singapore is the Federal Territory of Singapore's Administration as an Independent states. Where PAP is more pro APEC and built an HQ in Singapore. Where Indonesia is more Pro ASEAN and built HQ in Jakarta.

 

[Perspective]

I really don't know I am that "influential" to start with... can do great damage to a political party!

Well at the very least I didn't vote for PAP neither did I keep asking people to quit the party if they don't agree with the leadership. Worse even, if I did both and yet I am re-elected as CEC member and worse, appointed as key appointment holders like Organizing Secretary or Youth Wing office bearers, then that would be great damage to NSP.

Goh Meng Seng

Don't be so defensive and read again. I'm saying you could potentially do more damage because you're using your real name and a known NSP member, not you have done any damage. Proves no point to me by attacking members of another opposition party and moreover was your ex-party except what I already know that you are an ingrate enough and have forgotten the PAP.

BTW, there's no playing with words. It's just poor English.

 

[leetahbar]

I really don't know I am that "influential" to start with... can do great damage to a political party!

Well at the very least I didn't vote for PAP neither did I keep asking people to quit the party if they don't agree with the leadership. Worse even, if I did both and yet I am re-elected as CEC member and worse, appointed as key appointment holders like Organizing Secretary or Youth Wing office bearers, then that would be great damage to NSP.

Goh Meng Seng

meng seng, there are always petty people around to pick your cherries. like my li'l brother had said this to u before. some even wanna pick your grapeseeds! LOL!!

 

[leetahbar]

To be honest, personally, I don't know whether Fivestar is NSP member or not but I am very sure that he is not a "spokesman" of NSP. I shouldn't be seen as "spokesman" of NSP as well.

The spokesman of the NSP has to be the party President or Secretary General.

Even if Fivestar is a NSP member, I think I will respect his freedom of speech, no matter how ridiculous some people may view it. Well even PAP ministers and MPs don't make sense some time, so what's not?

Goh Meng Seng

which means that all those sdppies posting here could be clones of CHEE SOON JUAN!!??