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First WP GRC - Aljunied?

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
Haha

You are being overweening.

Even SDA won just 30+% of votes and they worked the grounds for years.. Why should you win?

Because we can. In Solidarity, we can.

Of course, there are many factors which will make it possible and it seems that all these factors are favorably in place.

In Chinese, to gain success, you needs to have three elements: 天时地利人和。

Timing/situation, environment and people.

All these 3 elements are falling into place right now.

Goh Meng Seng
 

Ramseth

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
In Chinese, to gain success, you needs to have three elements: 天时地利人和。

Timing/situation, environment and people.

All these 3 elements are falling into place right now.

Time: PAP decides the when to call election.

People: PAP has 66.6.% support to begin with.

Land: PAP decides the electoral boundaries.
 

Perspective

Alfrescian
Loyal
Timing/situation: During this time people vote PAP

Environment: During this environment people vote PAP

People: People vote PAP
 

sinren67

Alfrescian
Loyal
At this moment, losing Tamp GRC is not within my consideration. I am more concerned about what if we win Tamp GRC?

Goh Meng Seng

People will interpret as you just want to win the election but do not know what to do thereafter if won, so better don't vote for you since you do not know how to run a town council.

So you have the passion to run election for 9 days but no passion to manage the TC and serve the residents for 5 years?
 

Ramseth

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
People will interpret as you just want to win the election but do not know what to do thereafter if won, so better don't vote for you since you do not know how to run a town council.

So you have the passion to run election for 9 days but no passion to manage the TC and serve the residents for 5 years?

Yeah man, he sounds like it's OK to lose, everything's normal. But if win, madness, how to run a GRC and TC, more likely to run road to HK!
 

Subok

Alfrescian
Loyal
天时 - fair enough ... the time has/had already came.

地利 - the ground is ready for harvest

人和 - NEGATIVE.... some blabber mouth told press unity in oppositions not considered.

Normally it's Man proposes, Heaven disposes. But in this case Heaven proposes, Man disposes.

"Hee for God only, shee for God in him" (John Milton)
 
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Subok

Alfrescian
Loyal
Yeah man, he sounds like it's OK to lose, everything's normal. But if win, madness, how to run a GRC and TC, more likely to run road to HK!

If one who cannot/did not manage a decent business to upgrade from a HDB flat to even a condominium, is highly doubtful whether "one" can manage the millions of dollars in town council funds.

One that advocates for high salary to be equaled to one's competency in running a town council, is highly debatable.

One who probably never saw such fat pay check before, would probably take months to recover from "shock" of sudden wealth.

BUT, better monkeys than elephants, one's a clown while the other a klutz. better a monkey that amuses us than an elephant that blunders on us.

*sigh - such is the sorry state for the constituents of Tampines GRC. :(
 

sinren67

Alfrescian
Loyal
Yeah man, he sounds like it's OK to lose, everything's normal. But if win, madness, how to run a GRC and TC, more likely to run road to HK!

I made this comment cos after the GE06, that stupid tomato leader went around to say "luckily i lost, if not i do not know what to do". I felt betrayed and asked myself - "what the fuck am i doing all these to spend my precious time and effort and then our candidates like him don't have the desire to win?"

I just do not want GMS kena from WP's virus.
 

Ramseth

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
I made this comment cos after the GE06, that stupid tomato leader went around to say "luckily i lost, if not i do not know what to do". I felt betrayed and asked myself - "what the fuck am i doing all these to spend my precious time and effort and then our candidates like him don't have the desire to win?"

I just do not want GMS kena from WP's virus.

Hahaha!!! I think you don't mean tomato. You mean big potato 大番薯。:biggrin:
 

manokie

Alfrescian
Loyal
I made this comment cos after the GE06, that stupid tomato leader went around to say "luckily i lost, if not i do not know what to do". I felt betrayed and asked myself - "what the fuck am i doing all these to spend my precious time and effort and then our candidates like him don't have the desire to win?"

I just do not want GMS kena from WP's virus.

Who said that?

This person should be removed from WP :mad:
 

Goh Meng Seng

Alfrescian (InfP) [Comp]
Generous Asset
People will interpret as you just want to win the election but do not know what to do thereafter if won, so better don't vote for you since you do not know how to run a town council.

So you have the passion to run election for 9 days but no passion to manage the TC and serve the residents for 5 years?

Sinren,

Winning a seat for myself is no longer a challenge. Winning a GRC is a small challenge. Running a Town Council is not considered as a challenge at all.

What is the biggest challenge to me is how to be part of a government.

Winning a GRC would mean the next step is to plan and move towards winning enough seats to become the government, even if it is a coalition government.

Goh Meng Seng
 

Perspective

Alfrescian
Loyal
Oh, you mean that guy who voted PAP.

Hmm, went round telling people his voting choice yah but went round telling people lucky he lost, that I never heard of, unless it is not "went round", cos "went round" means everyone heard.

Unless this is manifested like KJ's gaffes, hard to say the source is reliable. This is not to be partisan, it's just to be fair.
 

Subok

Alfrescian
Loyal
Well, I am not CSJ. CSJ is not me... and that was in 1992.

Many things have changed over 2 decades.

Goh Meng Seng

Many things had changed over the last 2 decades for sure.. Other than RP and their better candidates, LTK and gang, CSJ and the old faithfuls, cannot say much of the integrity, qualities of some of the other OPP candidates. More "OPP"ortunists than "OPP"ositions.

One thing for sure, GMS is not even 0.01% the man of Dr CSJ.

Intellect par intellect
Beliefs par beliefs
Branding par branding
Status par status

GMS did not even accomplish an inch of what Dr CSJ did. Even the daughters of Dr CSJ I believe knows what their daddy is fighting for than GMS and his "sell flat campaign".
for anyone who believes that Dr CSJ is the bane of oppositions is as much as running dog as PAP would want the populace to believe.

Dr CSJ stood up to the occasion to SM Goh, "Where's Singaporean's money!" Dr CSJ questioned MM Lee on the former iron fist rule in Singapore. May I ask, what did GMS do?

Dr CSJ struggle against the regime had already gone beyond political boundaries, while GMS is still go round and round finding his own "branding".

Dr CSJ does not deserve to be Singapore's Prime Minister. The Prime Ministership does not DESERVE a man such as Dr CSJ!

Instead, Dr CSJ should be elected as the Republic's President. Dr CSJ is the "José Manuel Ramos-Horta" of Singapore.

Believe you me! If Dr CSJ is elected, I am sure he would be a recipient of Nobel Peace Prize!


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compared to GMS

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Compare NSP National Day Message to SDP's

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GMS is quick to dis-associate himself from SDP and call SDP extremist and quick to admit to the "national press" that He aka NSP that joining SDA is not considered.

Now, as the dust settles... who is the one against the opposition.....



GMS what had you done for Singaporeans? Even you are all for HIGH SALARIES paid to PAP through their brand of MERITOCRACY and ACCOUNTABILITY.

Humility will go a long way in your journey towards a political office less you forget, today, why the people's hearts are turning away from PAP.



to say the least... after all these years.. .Dr CSJ did not quit on Singaporeans, he did not pack his bags and go to Hong Kong. He came, he stayed and HE STAYS! I not not sure even if he will see the fruit of what he is fighting for in this lifetime, I wish he will.

Lose a GMS, and you find another kind of him in the next batch of "NUS - bred" elitist who thinks they alone can conquer the world, at the next Starbucks/Coffee Bean joints. Lose a Dr CSJ, I am afraid we would have to wait another "epic" 50 years for another to come along. ...
 
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Sideswipe

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
One thing for sure, GMS is not even 0.01% the man of Dr CSJ.
GMS what had you done for Singaporeans?

SDP and Mr Chee can't win elections ( he can't even contest ) If there is a three party fight in my constituency ( PAP, GMS and Chee ), I admire Chee but will tactical vote GMS because Chee can't win.

why u have so high expectations of GMS now?
He is not in cabinet nor a MP. NSP has no seat in parliament. What can he do for Singaporeans now?
you can judge him fairly later if he win and enter parliament next GE.
 

Ramseth

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
SDP and Mr Chee can't win elections ( he can't even contest ) If there is a three party fight in my constituency ( PAP, GMS and Chee ), I admire Chee but will tactical vote GMS because Chee can't win.

why u have so high expectations of GMS now?
He is not in cabinet nor a MP. NSP has no seat in parliament. What can he do for Singaporeans now?
you can judge him fairly later if he win and enter parliament next GE.

Unless he refuses, win or lose as full MP, GMS will be at least NCMP in the next Parliament. Yes, watch him.
 
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