FCBC set to become Singapore No.1 Church!!!

[BuiKia]

They share "love" easily...isn't that Christian enough?

that is my point, which 'Christian Community' would u expect to speak out on Con Hee? The Catholic church would not bother as its not their business. And its not a 'social justice' issue like abortion etc. And the Catholic Church do not believe in asking for tithes. So what is there to speak out on? And furthermore, Con Hee and gang are not Christians....what things are they doing that is 'Christian'??

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Con Hee and Gang do not know what 'love' in the Christian context mean...

They share "love" easily...isn't that Christian enough?

 

[scoobydoo]

Fixed your post.

hmm, name got "F" and "CB" in it - coincidence?
what abt his single-parent daughter?
what moral issues is he KPKB abt?

 

[congo9]

Pastor Lawrence Khong is a man of integrity for upholding the Christian values! I support him in asking for a review of the decision to dismiss the church worker! How to manage the church if we have such loose moral in holy places!

It is precisely because of Pastor Khong that FCBC grows strong day by day and its number swell.

What church do you guys attend?

I have over estimated him. I think as a Church leader, you must grow more brains then brawn as you progresses. Pastor Prince from New creation church is the best. He goes USA preach GOSPEL and goes on TV to spread the Gospel.

FCBC Lawrence Khong is waging a losing battle against secular World. If i am one of the Church counsel, i will actually put in a vote of no confidence and curtail his power. This will not put FCBC reputation into m&d. Obviously, FCBC is going to lose anyway. You just cannot simply apply the law of land and Law of Church at the same time.

 

[scoobydoo]

If FCBC can win this round. they WILL become Singapore No. 1 Church.

He is a man very stubborn in his Christian principles. That I can respect.

hmm, name got "F" and "CB" in it - coincidence?
what abt his single-parent daughter?
what moral issues and principles is he KPKB abt?

 

[BuiKia]

If can, the Muslim would have forced it on us a long time ago.

You just cannot simply apply the law of land and Law of Church at the same time.

 

[Asterix]

What is a "true Christian"?

Precisely. Christianity itself started out as a deviant Jewish sect. To this day, the orthodox Jews practice Judaism and regard Christianity as heretical.

"Difference of opinion is advantageous in religion. The several sects perform the office of a Censor - over each other." - Thomas Jefferson

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff397160.html

 

[The_Hypocrite]

So since jews view.christianity as a deviant sect. What is Judaism actually? Will there b an eternal war between Christians n Jews?

Precisely. Christianity itself started out as a deviant Jewish sect. To this day, the orthodox Jews practice Judaism and regard Christianity as heretical.

"Difference of opinion is advantageous in religion. The several sects perform the office of a Censor - over each other." - Thomas Jefferson

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff397160.html

 

[Asterix]

So since jews view.christianity as a deviant sect. What is Judaism actually? Will there b an eternal war between Christians n Jews?

I think you missed the point entirely, as Mao said “Let a hundred flowers bloom”
So in matters of religion, let a hundred sects bloom, Christian Muslim whatever
If members of any religious sect breach secular laws, they ought to be charged
For those secular crimes alone which the facts of the case support
No need to demonise, gossip and bring in unrelated happenings
Prosecutor’s burden is to prove the secular crime up to the standard required
For any other Tom, Dick or Harry accused of the same crime
Difference between Christianity and Judaism, well you can Google it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Judaism

 

[Agoraphobic]

Church of Born Again Devil Worshippers.

Cheers!

...........What church do you guys attend?

 

[csi88]

got photo of her daughter bo?

 

[wendychan]

This chap thought he can be another David Copperfield.
He and his wife together with his daughter produced a magic show claiming to be filmed live in LV.
But in actual fact, the entire show was produced somewhere else with everything staged including all his so called audience as his assistance.

so he LIED?

 

[SlickJon]

that's why his desperately trying to pump up more attention for his poor selling magic show via his stupid antics with the govt

 

[Confuseous]

Used to attend Lightning Church
Where Pastor Lee here
Demonstrates for the faithful
Power of resurrection
(to be continued …)

[video=youtube;WAzXvZ67I58]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAzXvZ67I58[/video]

Famous last words. I tremble in fear.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

got photo of her daughter bo?

Dun bother. Fat and ugly like fuck

 

[scoobydoo]

Dun bother. Fat and ugly like fuck

hmm, i wanna ask again.
what about his unmarried single-parent daughter?
so, what is he KPKB abt?

 

[laksaboy]

hmm, i wanna ask again.
what about his unmarried single-parent daughter?
so, what is he KPKB abt?

He's just displeased that the govt people had sullied his reputation by telling the truth: the pastor's daughter was a fornicator who had a baby out of wedlock. 面子问题.

As with most other things for these well-heeled folks in Sinkieland, once money and/or face is involved, that veneer of civility disappears and the gloves are off.

 

[rushifa666]

she is an admin staff, not clergy. would you sack the cleaner too for having an affair? and religious groups do not have to follow the law of the land? i think thats called a jihad

 

[WongMengMeng]

She is not an ordinary admin staff.

 

[WongMengMeng]

Okay, let me explain these in simple layman terms:

1. The staff was dismissed and she challenged it as being "unfair dismissal" according to Sinkie employment laws.

2. Legitimate grounds for dismissal obviously depends on the nature of the job.

Example 1: Bargain Hen is a 60 plus surgeon. His hands, while steady enough to write and type normally, do not make the grade anymore for surgery where a tiny error of a few millimetres can lead to instant death for a patient. The hospital at which Bargain Hen works decides to fire him. Is this unfair dismissal? No. The reason for the dismissal is related to his work as a surgeon.

Example 2: Kaypoh Auntie is 40 plus typist. Her hands have become unsteady lately, however she can write and type normally, it does not affect her work as a typist. Her employer fires her for having unsteady hands. Is this unfair dismissal? Yes. The reason for dismissal is not related to her work and does not affect it.

3. What is the nature of the church employee's work? Marriage counseling. Is her adultery related to her work?

The staff was the “designated representative” to meet couples seeking to wed — and to explain what was required of them — and thus her employment “bears sufficient or close proximity” with its mission, the church added.

Yes, very related, because she is expected to guide members of the congregation who are getting married on proper conduct. How is she going to do that when the whole damn church knows that she herself has breached those rules of proper conduct flagrantly?

4. The Manpower Ministar should be shot for the crime of not understanding the laws that he is supposed to be enforcing.

In his affidavit, Mr Khong also hit out at how the MOM conducted the inquiry into the dismissal. In particular, he said the MOM’s Assistant Commissioner for Labour had, during a meeting on Oct 8 last year, made an “unwarranted” reference to his daughter — she had a child out of wedlock — which was “tantamount to a personal attack”.
Arguing that his daughter Priscilla’s conduct was irrelevant to the case because she was never an FCBC employee and that she had confessed and sought forgiveness before her pastors, Mr Khong said: “I am surprised that (the Assistant Commissioner for Labour), as a representative of MOM, would make such comments without a full understanding of the facts.”

5. This Assistant Commissioner for Labour should be fired. Only employment matters are within the Manpower Ministry's purview. The pastor's daughter is not an employee and it is none of that overpaid Ministry's business. Controlling the influx of foreign "talents" by ensuring that those admitted indeed have qualifications which are needed by the Sinkie economy on the other hand falls squarely within this Ministry's purview and everybody knows that it has failed MISERABLY.

He also took issue with the ministry for only recording statements from the church’s junior staff, and not any of its leaders. The Assistant Commissioner for Labour’s conduct and the MOM’s failure to take the church leaders’ statements meant that the inquiry and Mr Tan’s subsequent decision were “tainted with bias”, Mr Khong claimed.

6. This is typical Lightning way of doing things. Junior staff are easily intimidated. It taints the proceedings and subject them to successful challenge in Court for being unfair. Imagine a divorce case in which the mediator only listens to the wife, but not the husband. Sama sama.

Quoted passages are from this article on Today:

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/church-seeking-guidance-what-constitutes-religious-affairs