Election IN for shock results -

[laksaboy]

Malaysian hovel or Mynmmar conclave?

I think it's a Russian gulag. I saw a few tall and blonde ones walking around in the town centre. I heard some Russian words spoken.

 

[Seee3]

Everyone seems to think PAP will slip further in this coming GE.

Yet, nobody knows why ?

Since the GE 2011, the issues of contention ( population, immigration, housing, health-care, transport , etc ) have been tackled and much progress have been made by the PAP.

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You are right that pap will slip and the cause is not clear. This is because the issues are many. However, it can be grouped into a single category - insincere and twisting with words.

Don't say aged collect cardboard because they wish to exercise if the the majority do it out of need.
Don't say there are lots of job opportunity if the vacancies are for cleaners and security guards.
Don't say $1000 monthly can afford to buy a flat and support a family if it can't even support a single person.
Don't say a heart operation cost $8 if majority can't afford that kind of insurance premium

The list seems endless but your post is exactly like what pap has been doing by saying that they have tackled most of the issues. Just health care issue alone, implementing the Medishield life is not taking care of health care issue. This Medishield life implementation alone is enough reason for us to vote opp even if he/she is a nut because we don't wish to be treated like fools with all these scams like Medishield life. Better to pay a nut 18k than someone who is out to sweet talk with little good.

 

[glockman]

I think vile pappies are still confident.
Note this time no wholesale cash giveout like last GE.
Only payout to target groups.....either they believe certain groups cannot be placate anymore or that the votes from targeted groups like low income and PG are enough to carry them through.
Or they still got wild card up their sleeves....note the smear campaign against opposition is on cue (MND and Daniel Goh).
Pinky not cried or apologize yet. No lawsuits yet.
I think vile pappies haven seen the coffin yet.

If they are still confident like you said, then they are really disconnected and deserve to be punished at the poll. They probably figured they have trump cards in the form of LKY's death and SG50 (hence no need for wholesale cash give-outs). These emotions are fleeting but yet they hope will carry them through.

In their heart of hearts, they must realise that they have not fixed issues pertaining to immigration, population. transportation, housing, health care. There is still a lot of anger, if not more than in GE2011. They are not confident but playing bluff.

 

[soIsee]

Had the PAP stuck with its 'old school' principles, shown some humility and done a proper job taking care of Singaporeans, it would not have come to this.

They're lucky that Sinkies are still relatively docile. Torches and pitchforks would have been out long ago in other countries.

If these supposedly rebellious Sinkie need expertise to construct a guillotine...I can help! Hahahaha

 

[soIsee]

If they are still confident like you said, then they are really disconnected and deserve to be punished at the poll. They probably figured they have trump cards in the form of LKY's death and SG50 (hence no need for wholesale cash give-outs). These emotions are fleeting but yet they hope will carry them through.

In their heart of hearts, they must realise that they have not fixed issues pertaining to immigration, population. transportation, housing, health care. There is still a lot of anger, if not more than in GE2011. They are not confident but playing bluff.

There is no issue that need urgent fixing or need to be fixed by the PaP.

Not convinced? All you have to do is to step out of your own country, to realise how much better your own country really is.

I think ppl like you lacks ...GRATITUDE.

And for that, I feel time and again the PAP have to tighten the screws to remind ppl like you...

how lucky you have been under their rule.

 

[kiwibird7]

Everyone seems to think PAP will slip further in this coming GE.

Yet, nobody knows why ?

Since the GE 2011, the issues of contention ( population, immigration, housing, health-care, transport , etc ) have been tackled and much progress have been made by the PAP.

If Opps raise the same old issues as in GE 2011, they are simply running out of ideas. In other words, from 2011 to 2015, the Opps have not thought of what they want Singapore to be. Instead, all they do in this GE is to parrot the same old issues that were already debated in 2011.

My gut feeling is that the shocking results will be that PAP will return in a bigger margin of win than the last GE. Simply because half of the Opps are a motley crew of opportunists ( they are going for the $18k MP pay in the guise of speaking up for Singaporeans. Nothing is free you know. ) and distractors ( activists turn politicians at the last minute ) and the other half do not know how to manage a town council ( if only they bother to check why FMSS earns so much money in less than 2 years while their own Town Council's finances are in deficit, but they don't want to do it because it would be embarrassing to let the Aljunied residents know that they have screwed up big time ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZGutMJir4

You should really watch the NUSS Political Dialogue discussion chaired by Vishaw. The opposition candidates from every party explained their visions/plans including the AHPETC issue and dealt with impromptu Q&A from the floor. Unlike LHL interviews, the difficult questions were not prepared ahead.

The PAP female MP panellist Sim An kena arrowed to go was literally a "Flower vase" case, talk without really dealing with the issues. None of the PAP big guns dared to show up to risk answering difficult questions.

The PAP MP Sim An was really slaughtered! It really looked bleak for PAP there.

 

[kiwibird7]

An non PAP coalition is not entirely impossible as it only takes 45 seats to knock out PAP to opposition benches. Any coalition with a reduced PAP majority is impossible as the PAP regards every NON PAP party an ENEMY that must be FIXED! Didn't LHL himself say he has to spend time FIXING opposition and buying votes (throwing meat at voters?)
It was brought up by SingFirst at the NUSSU Political dialogue discussion with all opposition panellists & PAP MP "Flower Vase" Sim An also present.
28 seats from WP and 17 from the other opposition parties to form the next govt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZGutMJir4

 

[laksaboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZGutMJir4

You should really watch the NUSS Political Dialogue discussion chaired by Vishaw. The opposition candidates from every party explained their visions/plans including the AHPETC issue and dealt with impromptu Q&A from the floor. Unlike LHL interviews, the difficult questions were not prepared ahead.

The PAP female MP panellist Sim An kena arrowed to go was literally a "Flower vase" case, talk without really dealing with the issues. None of the PAP big guns dared to show up to risk answering difficult questions.

The PAP MP Sim An was really slaughtered! It really looked bleak for PAP there.

Sim Ann is one of the PAP minions who puzzles me as to how they even got the job in the first place. Must be connected here, connected there, like Grace Fu, Desmond Lee and Tin Pei Ling etc.

 

[Wunderfool]

You are right that pap will slip and the cause is not clear. This is because the issues are many. However, it can be grouped into a single category - insincere and twisting with words.

Don't say aged collect cardboard because they wish to exercise if the the majority do it out of need.
Don't say there are lots of job opportunity if the vacancies are for cleaners and security guards.
Don't say $1000 monthly can afford to buy a flat and support a family if it can't even support a single person.
Don't say a heart operation cost $8 if majority can't afford that kind of insurance premium

The list seems endless but your post is exactly like what pap has been doing by saying that they have tackled most of the issues. Just health care issue alone, implementing the Medishield life is not taking care of health care issue. This Medishield life implementation alone is enough reason for us to vote opp even if he/she is a nut because we don't wish to be treated like fools with all these scams like Medishield life. Better to pay a nut 18k than someone who is out to sweet talk with little good.

Sure, there will always be the poor and downtrodden in whatever country we go. But the crux of the issue is whether the Singapore government is doing better than other countries in taking care of her poor citizens.

Name a country in the region that is doing better than Singapore in taking care of the poor and downtrodden.

Can we do more ? Of course, the government can always do more. But, will there be trade-offs ?

Do our ministers know what they are talking about? Do they come with the facts and statistics to support their claims?

What 's about the Opps ? Do they have the statistics to prove otherwise or they are just hot-air arguments?

Can the Opps do a better job ?

If they can run a town council well , perhaps ...

 

[Dinkum]

There is no issue that need urgent fixing or need to be fixed by the PaP.

Not convinced? All you have to do is to step out of your own country, to realise how much better your own country really is.

I think ppl like you lacks ...GRATITUDE.

And for that, I feel time and again the PAP have to tighten the screws to remind ppl like you...

how lucky you have been under their rule.

Even the dog also has no heck care for this fella who sells us out wholesale!

 

[glockman]

Had the PAP stuck with its 'old school' principles, shown some humility and done a proper job taking care of Singaporeans, it would not have come to this.

They're lucky that Sinkies are still relatively docile. Torches and pitchforks would have been out long ago in other countries.

Yes, this is their own undoing. They used to have the support of a large majority of sinkies. It's their own fault they did not stop and check themselves when support started to dwindle. Now they are at the end of their "useful life". It's up to sinkies to find the courage to VTO.

 

[rocket]

it is a fact that core singaporeans resentment towards PAP is deep.

 

[glockman]

There is no issue that need urgent fixing or need to be fixed by the PaP.

Not convinced? All you have to do is to step out of your own country, to realise how much better your own country really is.

I think ppl like you lacks ...GRATITUDE.

And for that, I feel time and again the PAP have to tighten the screws to remind ppl like you...

how lucky you have been under their rule.

Using the age old tired argument of comparing with other countries. If you think Spore is better than those countries, I tell you now that it could have been betterer! If only the pap had governed with more foresight, compassion, humility and democratically.

Unlike you, I don't equate gratitude with servitude or blind loyalty. When leaders are self-serving and place party above country, then it is the people's patriotic duty to deny them the vote.

 

[Wunderfool]

it is a fact that core singaporeans resentment towards PAP is deep.

You will know on Sep 11.

In fact, you should already know back in March...



The man and his party are synonymous.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

We shall see if huge turnout for vile lky funeral will translate into votes.
We shall see if PG scheme can con the old.
We shall see if town council fixing will bear fruit.
We shall see smear campaign will be successful.
We shall see if SG50 really got good will.
We shall see if import new citizens will get their vote.

Finally we shall see if sinkies are awaken

You will know on Sep 11.

In fact, you should already know back in March...

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The man and his party are synonymous.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

PAP will not fall and only crazies will think such things...at most the oppo can hope to win is another GRC and a few more SMCs,,Singkies will only vote for a strong oppo party like WP,,,and seriously,,who in their right mind will vote for the 3rd rate oppos? SDA, NSP, RP and Got More shit party have no political appeal. DPP, SFP have more credibility and I will call them 2nd tier oppos,,but they are contesting in real PAP strongholds,,,so hard to win. SDP under Chee has gone down the drain and many do not trust Chee. Chee has set the opposition agenda back 10 years with his ousting of CST,,,and look,,he is unemployed and can feed his family,,something fishy going on,,,,and of course his past antics will return giving the Oppos a bad name,,,just look at the Punggol East BE,,,he nearly derailed that with his antics and sprouting crap like SDP contest the seat and WP run town councils,,,what a load of crock,,,and Chee was discharged from bankruptcy to spilt the oppo votes and he nearly did it the last time,,,this clown cant be trusted,,,I will still vote for any oppo parties,,,but 2nd and 3rd rate oppos contest,,I will be outvoted anyway,,,All that can be hope for is PAP get less than 55% of the vote giving pinky a harder time as he cant claim a 'Mandate' (of course he has been dating his husband so he does have a mandate). A low winning percentage will unsettle him even more,,,that is the best singkies can hope for. I think if the oppos can deny the PAP the 2/3 majority it will be a good start,,but I wont be too hopeful,,,and also heaps of naturalised FTs who will vote for the pappies,,,so a long shot indeed,

 

[Wunderfool]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZGutMJir4

You should really watch the NUSS Political Dialogue discussion chaired by Vishaw. The opposition candidates from every party explained their visions/plans including the AHPETC issue and dealt with impromptu Q&A from the floor. Unlike LHL interviews, the difficult questions were not prepared ahead.

The PAP female MP panellist Sim An kena arrowed to go was literally a "Flower vase" case, talk without really dealing with the issues. None of the PAP big guns dared to show up to risk answering difficult questions.

The PAP MP Sim An was really slaughtered! It really looked bleak for PAP there.

Come on... if Sim An doesn't play the "humility card", you think she can come out of the wolves' pack alive
At least she has the guts to be there.

Why don't you ask why WP didn't want to attend the National Day Rally ? Same logic here , but where's his guts?

 

[bigboss]

You will know on Sep 11.

In fact, you should already know back in March...

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The man and his party are synonymous.

Limpeh also turned up to pay last respect to LKY but not going to vote for the pappies in coming GE.
Respecting LKY for his contribution to the country is not the same as supporting the pappies to do what they are now doing. So, don't think all these people turning up to pay respect to LKY will surely vote for pappies.

 

[bigboss]

....ask why WP didn't want to attend the National Day Rally ? Same logic here , but where's his guts?

WP knew LHL would be singing the same song in every NDR. Why not spend the time getting close to the residents in their ward? Not attending the NDR is a good move to distance themselves from the usual cock talk of the PM.

 

[Wunderfool]

Limpeh also turned up to pay last respect to LKY but not going to vote for the pappies in coming GE.
Respecting LKY for his contribution to the country is not the same as supporting the pappies to do what they are now doing. So, don't think all these people turning up to pay respect to LKY will surely vote for pappies.

You have a disconnect... what is the difference between LKY 's contributions and PAP's contributions to the country ?