Does Singapore Still have Triads or Secret Societies???

[HK14K]

Blk 307 AMK was vacated by 2004, then in 2005 it was kena demolished and rebuild. The new blk 307 now bears little resemblance to the old 307 that we know of...

Precisely, I dun think the new 307 has a coffeeshop, pardon me if i'm wrong

 

[magical]

Below 100k is not shameful la, but like what u said, it depends largely on the influence of the headman. We once had a headman who is those stay at home time, seldom venture out of his territory, rarely goes drinking and everynite sitting in the same old coffeeshop. Ouf 7th month proceeds was less than 40k nia, eventually we retire him and replace with a new blood. The last few years was good, but we realised we had been slow but catching up with other branches. And our last year 7th month was slightly over 100k.This year we are targeting more. I heard si tong this year are organising 300 tables and pak hai 200 tables.
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[taxidriver]

Below 100k is not shameful la, but like what u said, it depends largely on the influence of the headman. We once had a headman who is those stay at home time, seldom venture out of his territory, rarely goes drinking and everynite sitting in the same old coffeeshop. Ouf 7th month proceeds was less than 40k nia, eventually we retire him and replace with a new blood. The last few years was good, but we realised we had been slow but catching up with other branches. And our last year 7th month was slightly over 100k.This year we are targeting more. I heard si tong this year are organising 300 tables and pak hai 200 tables.
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wow, See Tong is strong, i thought it was defunct.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Below 100k is not shameful la, but like what u said, it depends largely on the influence of the headman. We once had a headman who is those stay at home time, seldom venture out of his territory, rarely goes drinking and everynite sitting in the same old coffeeshop. Ouf 7th month proceeds was less than 40k nia, eventually we retire him and replace with a new blood. The last few years was good, but we realised we had been slow but catching up with other branches. And our last year 7th month was slightly over 100k.This year we are targeting more. I heard si tong this year are organising 300 tables and pak hai 200 tables.
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PHT has always been strong when it comes to 7th month dinners. Many of their rich chaps are into underground business, especially 4D and Toto. The many cars parked in the viciinity when dinner is on is a good indicator of their wealth and influence. Imo, the strongest in the western part of S'pore. GHK should be second.

Si Tong no longer actively recruiting. Alot of senior citizens in their ranks. $$$$ support from overseas. They are also represented up in Jurong.

 

[GoldenDragon]

At least 4 to 5 years ago
Sorry , I don't have the faintest idea where their new hang-out may be

I will discreetly enquire when I meet AST chaps.

 

[dietcoke]

Think they have shifted to the hawker centre at blk 226 AMK ave 3, which is another hot spot for AST?

yes, most have shifted there. btw, 226 HC is controlled by 2 lee taos. AST and TYT. TYT side is facing the main road, whereas AST side is facing the inner part of the market.

both lee tao also tiao lang to support strength. AST reinforcement comes from 307, whereas TYT reinforcement comes from 202.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

yes, most have shifted there. btw, 226 HC is controlled by 2 lee taos. AST and TYT. TYT side is facing the main road, whereas AST side is facing the inner part of the market.

both lee tao also tiao lang to support strength. AST reinforcement comes from 307, whereas TYT reinforcement comes from 202.

Overseas mafia fight for control of turf.
Sinkieland turf all owned by pap.
SS fight over to control leftovers breadcrumbs like HC....one HC still need to share....

 

[taxidriver]

PHT has always been strong when it comes to 7th month dinners. Many of their rich chaps are into underground business, especially 4D and Toto. The many cars parked in the viciinity when dinner is on is a good indicator of their wealth and influence. Imo, the strongest in the western part of S'pore. GHK should be second.

Si Tong no longer actively recruiting. Alot of senior citizens in their ranks. $$$$ support from overseas. They are also represented up in Jurong.

i am pretty sure PHT is quite strong in the commercial affairs but not so sure about GHK. I think GHK is close to defunct now. PHT also seems to be dwindling. Loose gangs like 369 sprouting everywhere, tough for the poodles to control them.

 

[iamhere]

historically, they were from surviving military clans formed as "the resistance" after fall of dynasties to undermine usurpers of the throne. underground rebels so to speak. traditional chinese dynasties carry triangular flags for war. it was for practical purposes to minimize wind load due to large size for visual aid and ease of twirl and sway during handling and marches. the mongols perfected the use of triangular flags for battlefield signaling, and they were done exclusively on horseback. the early instance of resistance to a usurper was near the end of the han dynasty, with triads fashioning themselves as saviors and protectors of the people in the likes of liu bang, kuan yu and that bushy bearded buffoon. go to any temples on cny, and you'll find triad members paying homage to kuan yu, symbol of bravery, virtue and honor.

the drawings in temples showing Guan Yu, Guan Ping and Zhou Cang...

 

[Poomer]

i am pretty sure PHT is quite strong in the commercial affairs but not so sure about GHK. I think GHK is close to defunct now. PHT also seems to be dwindling. Loose gangs like 369 sprouting everywhere, tough for the poodles to control them.

Nah, PHT is doing well, they have lots of new blood, and from what I hear their old timers are raking it in. And till now, nobody have been able to plant flag in their mountain stronghold.

 

[Poomer]

Below 100k is not shameful la, but like what u said, it depends largely on the influence of the headman. We once had a headman who is those stay at home time, seldom venture out of his territory, rarely goes drinking and everynite sitting in the same old coffeeshop. Ouf 7th month proceeds was less than 40k nia, eventually we retire him and replace with a new blood. The last few years was good, but we realised we had been slow but catching up with other branches. And our last year 7th month was slightly over 100k.This year we are targeting more. I heard si tong this year are organising 300 tables and pak hai 200 tables.
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wow, See Tong is strong, i thought it was defunct.

The See Tong old timers are still around, that one I can confirm.

300 tables in the same venue? Where can hold, anyway, they must have alot of supporters.

200 tables for PHT, that I'm not surprised.

 

[youth123]

yes, most have shifted there. btw, 226 HC is controlled by 2 lee taos. AST and TYT. TYT side is facing the main road, whereas AST side is facing the inner part of the market.

both lee tao also tiao lang to support strength. AST reinforcement comes from 307, whereas TYT reinforcement comes from 202.

Ya, TYT is also active in that area. I also remember GLK at blk 107 as well.

 

[dietcoke]

Ya, TYT is also active in that area. I also remember GLK at blk 107 as well.

what is GLK??

 

[taxidriver]

what is GLK??

24 GLK = 24 Ghee Leng Kiat
last heard they active in dover, gim moh, holland but that was 90s.

 

[taxidriver]

Overseas mafia fight for control of turf.
Sinkieland turf all owned by pap.
SS fight over to control leftovers breadcrumbs like HC....one HC still need to share....

HC = Hawker Centre?
WTF they do with these areas man. cannot set up gambling dens, no protection money. seat all day and drink ABC stout also must pay money. quite ridiculous to say you are a SS member and these are what you do in your territory.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

HC = Hawker Centre?
WTF they do with these areas man. cannot set up gambling dens, no protection money. seat all day and drink ABC stout also must pay money. quite ridiculous to say you are a SS member and these are what you do in your territory.

Last time got ah longs and bookies operate from HC and kopitiams....now all gone hi tech....really beats me what benefits from 'owning' a HC as turf.....besides the 7th month dinners as mentioned.

 

[GoldenDragon]

i am pretty sure PHT is quite strong in the commercial affairs but not so sure about GHK. I think GHK is close to defunct now. PHT also seems to be dwindling. Loose gangs like 369 sprouting everywhere, tough for the poodles to control them.

Attended one of GHK's dinner in Jurong years ago. Maybe 150 tables. From what I know, both groups aren't dwindling. Between the two, PHT has more $$$ and more members.

 

[GoldenDragon]

And till now, nobody have been able to plant flag in their mountain stronghold.

Any attempts will be met by strong resistance. Sure to have many casualites if clash takes place. Fortunately, most of these strongholds are more or less accepted by other groups.

 

[GoldenDragon]

last heard they active in dover, gim moh, holland but that was 90s.

Same today.

 

[taxidriver]

Attended one of GHK's dinner in Jurong years ago. Maybe 150 tables. From what I know, both groups aren't dwindling. Between the two, PHT has more $$$ and more members.

you seem well connected. youths of their gangs been fighting each other since 90's. don't understand what's in for these gang members nowadays.