Does Singapore Still have Triads or Secret Societies???

[GoldenDragon]

However, it can be regulated! And permits are given out to run these joints! As long as the shit in white can dipped their fingers or rather pinky into it!

7th month akan datang. These dinners are almost all SS/triad linked - north, south, east and west. MPs attending these events can't be deaf and blind. Nowadays also no need to collect protection money. 7th month dinners is not simply makan besar only. Those doing biz in that area will either donate things to be auctioned or bid for items. Who gets the cash?

 

[GoldenDragon]

I agreed with what u say... SG so-called gangster fight because of staring incidents... Triads in HK or Taiwan now all turn to commercialize triads already, fight only because of rice bowl...

The very, very senior headmen or at least quite a number of them, have to 'kowtow' to their younger members nowadays. Why? Because the younger chaps are financially well off being in the keu, beh and beh pio biz. These old heads need to eat and survive too. Their hands are tied if one of their $$$$ supporter, junior in rank, acted wrongly and need backing for a showdown with rival group.

Imo, the biggest gangsters are the rich chaps. There is someone in the soccer bookmaking biz who can even settle international disputes between gangs in certain parts of Asia - Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines.

 

[HK14K]

The very, very senior headmen or at least quite a number of them, have to 'kowtow' to their younger members nowadays. Why? Because the younger chaps are financially well off being in the keu, beh and beh pio biz. These old heads need to eat and survive too. Their hands are tied if one of their $$$$ supporter, junior in rank, acted wrongly and need backing for a showdown with rival group.

Imo, the biggest gangsters are the rich chaps. There is someone in the soccer bookmaking biz who can even settle international disputes between gangs in certain parts of Asia - Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines.

Is not in your opinion, you're absolutely right.... When Fok Ying Tung was still alive, he back 14K with his wealth n the whole triad know him as BOSS n not 大佬

 

[HK14K]

The very, very senior headmen or at least quite a number of them, have to 'kowtow' to their younger members nowadays. Why? Because the younger chaps are financially well off being in the keu, beh and beh pio biz. These old heads need to eat and survive too. Their hands are tied if one of their $$$$ supporter, junior in rank, acted wrongly and need backing for a showdown with rival group.

Imo, the biggest gangsters are the rich chaps. There is someone in the soccer bookmaking biz who can even settle international disputes between gangs in certain parts of Asia - Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines.

Sun Yee Onn is back by the Hiang family.... The boss is the one acting as a bodyguard for Chow Yun Fatt in God Of Gambler，"向华强” n his brother ”向华胜“...

 

[spotter542]

When there are Chinese , there will always be triads
That includes Chinatowns in most European countries

 

[Dark Knight]

In Sillypore, SS = Poodles = MIW.
These group of people are related and they cannot function without each other (if you know what I mean).

 

[eatshitndie]

The incident you mentioned is true but later on Singaporeans over at Amsterdam cannot make it already my friend... And just for yr info, today's HK triad no longer put their focus in Amsterdam despite 14K still have operations in Amsterdam. Now is the China market

as usual, sinkies could never be united and sustain the momentum for the long term, and worse, they backstabbed each other after a few strings of early successes. just look at oppo politics here. same drama, same outcomes. in the netherlands, once their best and most competent leader was gone, it was dog eat dog. sinkies traditionally have relied on a visionary strongman to lead them. it's also a chinkie tradition. all that saf training for "foot soldiers" helped in the early years, but without good leadership, the most successful gangs will crumble.

sorry for politicizing this thread.

 

[Physiocrat]

Unless there exist groups which are planning to revolt secretly.

The term "Secret societies" simply makes no sense.

For groups who are so eager to 响党 to let you know where they are from .........can they be considered secret?

 

[eatshitndie]

Unless there exist groups which are planning to revolt secretly.

The term "Secret societies" simply makes no sense.

For groups who are so eager to 响党 to let you know where they are from be considered secret?

historically, they were from surviving military clans formed as "the resistance" after fall of dynasties to undermine usurpers of the throne. underground rebels so to speak. traditional chinese dynasties carry triangular flags for war. it was for practical purposes to minimize wind load due to large size for visual aid and ease of twirl and sway during handling and marches. the mongols perfected the use of triangular flags for battlefield signaling, and they were done exclusively on horseback. the early instance of resistance to a usurper was near the end of the han dynasty, with triads fashioning themselves as saviors and protectors of the people in the likes of liu bang, kuan yu and that bushy bearded buffoon. go to any temples on cny, and you'll find triad members paying homage to kuan yu, symbol of bravery, virtue and honor.

 

[HK14K]

Unless there exist groups which are planning to revolt secretly.

The term "Secret societies" simply makes no sense.

For groups who are so eager to 响党 to let you know where they are from .........can they be considered secret?

That's why they're called triads now n not secret society!!!

 

[spotter542]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(underground_society)

 

[Physiocrat]

That's why they're called triads now n not secret society!!!

Cool. I have no problem with the word triad to describe the current groups.

As per eatshitndie' s explanation, I do pray for that sort of secret societies 天地会 but not the current triads 三合会。

 

[tonychat]

While abroad, I still read news about youngsters slashing people up just because of staring incident like the one in Pasir Ris n the most recent, CineLeisure...

My question is does Singapore still exist with triads or secret societies??? During my school time, i know SS in singapore like the AST, 08, 18XDH, 21, 24, 369 etc....but alot of "lao jiao" all went in or either come out become gd boy already... Does SS still exist in SG???

got, those without balls one.

 

[Physiocrat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(underground_society)

Have gone through the article. Although the article seems to equate 天地会 with 三合会, but I do think there is a difference.

三合会 will vote for PAP.
天地会 will not be bothered with the election.

 

[HK14K]

Cool. I have no problem with the word triad to describe the current groups.

As per eatshitndie' s explanation, I do pray for that sort of secret societies 天地会 but not the current triads 三合会。

Actually now be it HK, Taiwan or China n even Japan... Triads are all commercialize already!!! Look at Shanghai those disco n pubs, owned by HK triad members n pay those who just ROD from PLA to be the bouncer...

Just early this year in March, the current most powerful triad in HK 和胜和organized a "D&D" in one of the Shenzhen restaurant n almost 200 members inclusive of the no.1 up the lorry by chinese police!!!

 

[Physiocrat]

Actually now be it HK, Taiwan or China n even Japan... Triads are all commercialize already!!!

Thats the part thats sickening. Ideology < fiat currency. Apparently, Sam Hui 's cb songs do have a great impact on the chinese society. Avarice.

Btw there is this Ngee Ann kongsi entity in SG which seems to be linked to Ngee Ann polytechnic. Not so sure about that shopping centre Ngee Ann City. Are they related to your hongkong triad?

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Secret Society Branch under Specialised Crime Div of the CID is still around. CLTP Act also around. The answer to your question is crystal clear.
SS/triad, illegal gambling and prostitution will NEVER be eradicated.

Eradicating SS/triads is just an aspiration. It will take 200 years.

 

[HK14K]

Thats the part thats sickening. Ideology < fiat currency. Apparently, Sam Hui 's cb songs do have a great impact on the chinese society. Avarice.

Btw there is this Ngee Ann kongsi entity in SG which seems to be linked to Ngee Ann polytechnic. Not so sure about that shopping centre Ngee Ann City. Are they related to your hongkong triad?

First I've to clarify, I'm a businessman n not a triad members.

Ngee Ann City is owned by local. I've an ex-gf who for Ngee Ann City in the past as what events executive or something. The Ngee Ann Kongsi you mentioned is SG good boy, not triad neither is it related

 

[Physiocrat]

First I've to clarify, I'm a businessman n not a triad members.

With a username like yours, you can't really fault me can you?

 

[winnipegjets]

Btw, current triad and SS in S'pore is a big joke compared to Malaysia, Taiwan, Japan, HK and even Macau. No truce exists between the SPF and the underworld.
Most of our very senior headmen are connected to the MIW. They are directly or indirectly involved in grassroot activities. Just ask Jurong chaps who is always next to Tharman. Who was always close to Ong Ah Heng when he was active? Enough said, for now.

I suspected that the PAP is connected to the triad, thank you for confirming that. As the adage says that if it walks like a triad, talks like a triad, it must be a triad.