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Darwin Theory of Evolution has been proven scientifically

Toronto

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...and these are the works that are favoured by the prince of darkness, Satan and his angels).

Psalm23

Ezekiel 28:18: Therefore I (God) will bring forth a fire from the midst of you (Satan), the fire will devour you and I (God) will bring your (Satan's) ashes upon the Earth.

Satan is gone, and you still believe the world is being ruled by Satan.

To believe YOU or the bible?



You are right, the bible is wrong.

Or

You are wrong, the bible is right.
 
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Dear Toronto,

I think you are having big nightmare! May be it's better you skip the discussion on the religion. Looks like you are very confused. From what we read of your replie, you are confused between Conqueror and Psalm23!

I never confused between Conqueror and Psalm23. If you have problem reading and understanding a simple forum post, how would you be expected to read up enough and understanding correctly on a very complex and specialised subject like Evolution Science to give your fair comments, and forget about trying to refute any biologist's claim.


Remember, in another religion thread that made discussion on biblical slavery. I have to point out and corrected your errorneous interpretation of a biblical OT passage that 6 years redemption period is actually applicable for jewish slaves only. You have to be corrected on your understanding of your religion books, so do you believe you have the moral right or credibility to stop me from religion discussion in an open forum?

However, I believe in free speech and respect your right to stop me. But I can't in this case, you are praying and exploiting on some trivial mistakes you believed I made and tried to knockdown people with them instead of the core arguments.

And that kinana, I can't be bothered with her lack of content posts.
 
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Can. And if this proves to be a workable and desirable outcome, this can become the norm in the evolution process. You must be aware that for animals with multiple births as a norm, more than two breasts are the normal profile.


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Known in Rome as Diana and in Greece as Artemis, she is the twin sister of Apollo and daughter of Zeus and Leto. Artemis was always a virgin, an eternally young, untamed girl, nourishing all life. Thus Diana has many breasts because she has many children to feed. Her hands form the gesture of bestowing worldly and spiritual blessings. She is crowned with the Goddess?s sacred vessel, and the lunar disk makes a halo around her head. Diana is the Earth herself, whose mountains are breast and whose body is a dwelling place for all living creatures. Even in the patriarchal era, her worship was so strong that her temple at Ephesus was considered one on the seven wonders of the ancient world.
 

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Queen Of Heaven

Can. And if this proves to be a workable and desirable outcome, this can become the norm in the evolution process. You must be aware that for animals with multiple births as a norm, more than two breasts are the normal profile.


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Ancient Israelites sinned against God because they worship the Queen of Heaven. Today, the new Queen of Heaven is known as Virgin Mary or Our Lady of Fatima in Roman Catholicism.

Every aspect of Roman Catholicism is heathen.
 

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God Is The God Of The Living

Sorry! You have the wrong thought. I have never been a Catholic.

I meant the Protestant Bible, specifically, the KJV.

Remember as follower of Christ, we are members of His Body (and that is the Church) and there is only ONE Church, the Church of Christ. No one, neither you, nor me, nor pastors, priests, deacons, bishops can tell you who are those members. Only Jesus himself can

Psalm23


Okay then, maybe I have got it wrongly. Protestant church like Lutheran also uses KJV ? My previous church used to swear by the KJV too. But, I begged to differ and I spoke to God about this. And guess what did He say. A fantastic answer from the mouth of God. I must clap my hand hardly to agree with Him. :biggrin:

My God is the god of the living.
 
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Conqueror

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Re: God Is The God Of The Living

Let us now examine in detail why the evolutionist scenario regarding the formation of proteins is impossible.

Even the correct sequence of the right amino acids is still not enough for the formation of a functional protein molecule. In addition to these requirements, each of the 20 different types of amino acids present in the composition of proteins must be left-handed. There are two different types of amino acids-as of all organic molecules-called "left-handed" and "right-handed." The difference between them is the mirror-symmetry between their three dimensional structures, which is similar to that of a person's right and left hands.



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Amino acids of either of these two types can easily bond with one another. But one astonishing fact that has been revealed by research is that all the proteins in plants and animals on this planet, from the simplest organism to the most complex, are made up of left-handed amino acids. If even a single right-handed amino acid gets attached to the structure of a protein, the protein is rendered useless. In a series of experiments, surprisingly, bacteria that were exposed to right-handed amino acids immediately destroyed them. In some cases, they produced usable left-handed amino acids from the fractured components.

Let us for an instant suppose that life came about by chance as evolutionists claim it did. In this case, the right- and left-handed amino acids that were generated by chance should be present in roughly equal proportions in nature. Therefore, all living things should have both right- and left-handed amino acids in their constitution, because chemically it is possible for amino acids of both types to combine with each other. However, as we know, in the real world the proteins existing in all living organisms are made up only of left-handed amino acids.

The question of how proteins can pick out only the left-handed ones from among all amino acids, and how not even a single right-handed amino acid gets involved in the life process, is a problem that still baffles evolutionists. Such a specific and conscious selection constitutes one of the greatest impasses facing the theory of evolution.

Moreover, this characteristic of proteins makes the problem facing evolutionists with respect to "chance" even worse. In order for a "meaningful" protein to be generated, it is not enough for the amino acids to be present in a particular number and sequence, and to be combined together in the right three-dimensional design. Additionally, all these amino acids have to be left-handed: not even one of them can be right-handed. Yet there is no natural selection mechanism which can identify that a right-handed amino acid has been added to the sequence and recognize that it must therefore be removed from the chain. This situation once more eliminates for good the possibility of coincidence and chance.

The Britannica Science Encyclopaedia, which is an outspoken defender of evolution, states that the amino acids of all living organisms on earth, and the building blocks of complex polymers such as proteins, have the same left-handed asymmetry. It adds that this is tantamount to tossing a coin a million times and always getting heads. The same encyclopaedia states that it is impossible to understand why molecules become left-handed or right-handed, and that this choice is fascinatingly related to the origin of life on earth.248

If a coin always turns up heads when tossed a million times, is it more logical to attribute that to chance, or else to accept that there is conscious intervention going on? The answer should be obvious. However, obvious though it may be, evolutionists still take refuge in coincidence, simply because they do not want to accept the existence of conscious intervention.

A situation similar to the left-handedness of amino acids also exists with respect to nucleotides, the smallest units of the nucleic acids, DNA and RNA. In contrast to proteins, in which only left-handed amino acids are chosen, in the case of the nucleic acids, the preferred forms of their nucleotide components are always right-handed. This is another fact that can never be explained by chance.

In conclusion, it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the probabilities we have examined that the origin of life cannot be explained by chance. If we attempt to calculate the probability of an average-sized protein consisting of 400 amino acids being selected only from left-handed amino acids, we come up with a probability of 1 in 2400, or 10120. Just for a comparison, let us remember that the number of electrons in the universe is estimated at 1079, which although vast, is a much smaller number. The probability of these amino acids forming the required sequence and functional form would generate much larger numbers. If we add these probabilities to each other, and if we go on to work out the probabilities of even higher numbers and types of proteins, the calculations become inconceivable.
 

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Re: Queen Of Heaven

Ancient Israelites sinned against God because they worship the Queen of Heaven. Today, the new Queen of Heaven is known as Virgin Mary or Our Lady of Fatima in Roman Catholicism.

Every aspect of Roman Catholicism is heathen.

Why is the worshipping of a Goddess that blessed you with many offsprings so evil and sinful? And not the worship of a God that spear headed the 1st born baby of Egypt? I don't get it!
 

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Re: Queen Of Heaven

Why is the worshipping of a Goddess that blessed you with many offsprings so evil and sinful? And not the worship of a God that spear headed the 1st born baby of Egypt? I don't get it!

Because that Goddess is not the creator of heaven and earth.
 

currypuff

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Re: God Is The God Of The Living

Okay then, maybe I have got it wrongly. Protestant church like Lutheran also uses KJV ? My previous church used to swear by the KJV too. But, I begged to differ and I spoke to God about this. And guess what did He say. A fantastic answer from the mouth of God. I must clap my hand hardly to agree with Him. :biggrin:

My God is the god of the living.

Huh...different church sect worships a different God, the correct understanding? I have met many christians that claimed their church is the true church and others not.

I still don't get the difference between lutheran and protestant. I thought they are same?

Interested, God communicate with you in what tongue?
 

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Huh...different church sect worships a different God, the correct understanding? I have met many christians that claimed their church is the true church and others not.

I still don't get the difference between lutheran and protestant. I thought they are same?

Interested, God communicate with you in what tongue?

Lutherans are protestants. It seems you don't even know what you are talking about. Why not you respect others and do a bit of easy research before you throw questions on other people's religion?
 

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Lutherans are protestants. It seems you don't even know what you are talking about. Why not you respect others and do a bit of easy research before you throw questions on other people's religion?

If i know, I won't be asking. That why I am coming to this forum to learn from the brothers. It's not easy for outsiders to understand the complex organisation of your faith.
 

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Because that Goddess is not the creator of heaven and earth.

Dianna existed before Jesus came. Different churches claim the God they worship is the living God, the others are not. How would anyone know your claim is the right one? Just because you say so or the bible says so?
Your living God is the one that ordered the murder of Egyptian's first born and blessed only Moses with many offsprings. Is that a special God?

Thank a lot for your reply and sharing.
 

Kinana

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Re: Queen Of Heaven

Dianna existed before Jesus came. Different churches claim the God they worship is the living God, the others are not. How would anyone know your claim is the right one? Just because you say so or the bible says so?
Your living God is the one that ordered the murder of Egyptian's first born and blessed only Moses with many offsprings. Is that a special God?

Thank a lot for your reply and sharing.

Jesus exist before Diana. Read John chapter 1.

No murder of Egyptians. Again you would do well to read the entire Genesis before you claim murder.
 
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Psalm23,
I think you need to read that post once more time. In that post #294, I was trying to tell Conqueror that he was the one that gave me the impression you were a catholic. You read careful, he passage suggested you are one.

That's where your big problem! Why you need to let other people tell you about others. Just go to the source directly. This is humam fragility and weakness. You have been fooled by the evolutionists telling you that the evidence of those dead fossils million million of years ago were part of your ancestors. Just go to the source....the living source today and they are right inside your body - those million and million of cells and their DNA. The DNA, the language of life that made up who you are will give you the direct source that you were not from the rocks.

Listen.....go to the source....listen to God directly, the word of God, the Bible.
 

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Re: Queen Of Heaven

Religion is the Greatest evil and stupidity on Earth.

Man created Gods out of fear.

Christianity is 2,500 years old.

Earth is 4.54 billion years old. Nuff said....:*:
 

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Re: God Is The God Of The Living

Let us now examine in detail why the evolutionist scenario regarding the formation of proteins is impossible.

Even the correct sequence of the right amino acids is still not enough for the formation of a functional protein molecule. In addition to these requirements, each of the 20 different types of amino acids present in the composition of proteins must be left-handed. There are two different types of amino acids-as of all organic molecules-called "left-handed" and "right-handed." The difference between them is the mirror-symmetry between their three dimensional structures, which is similar to that of a person's right and left hands.



199.jpg



Amino acids of either of these two types can easily bond with one another. But one astonishing fact that has been revealed by research is that all the proteins in plants and animals on this planet, from the simplest organism to the most complex, are made up of left-handed amino acids. If even a single right-handed amino acid gets attached to the structure of a protein, the protein is rendered useless. In a series of experiments, surprisingly, bacteria that were exposed to right-handed amino acids immediately destroyed them. In some cases, they produced usable left-handed amino acids from the fractured components.

Let us for an instant suppose that life came about by chance as evolutionists claim it did. In this case, the right- and left-handed amino acids that were generated by chance should be present in roughly equal proportions in nature. Therefore, all living things should have both right- and left-handed amino acids in their constitution, because chemically it is possible for amino acids of both types to combine with each other. However, as we know, in the real world the proteins existing in all living organisms are made up only of left-handed amino acids.

The question of how proteins can pick out only the left-handed ones from among all amino acids, and how not even a single right-handed amino acid gets involved in the life process, is a problem that still baffles evolutionists. Such a specific and conscious selection constitutes one of the greatest impasses facing the theory of evolution.

Moreover, this characteristic of proteins makes the problem facing evolutionists with respect to "chance" even worse. In order for a "meaningful" protein to be generated, it is not enough for the amino acids to be present in a particular number and sequence, and to be combined together in the right three-dimensional design. Additionally, all these amino acids have to be left-handed: not even one of them can be right-handed. Yet there is no natural selection mechanism which can identify that a right-handed amino acid has been added to the sequence and recognize that it must therefore be removed from the chain. This situation once more eliminates for good the possibility of coincidence and chance.

The Britannica Science Encyclopaedia, which is an outspoken defender of evolution, states that the amino acids of all living organisms on earth, and the building blocks of complex polymers such as proteins, have the same left-handed asymmetry. It adds that this is tantamount to tossing a coin a million times and always getting heads. The same encyclopaedia states that it is impossible to understand why molecules become left-handed or right-handed, and that this choice is fascinatingly related to the origin of life on earth.248

If a coin always turns up heads when tossed a million times, is it more logical to attribute that to chance, or else to accept that there is conscious intervention going on? The answer should be obvious. However, obvious though it may be, evolutionists still take refuge in coincidence, simply because they do not want to accept the existence of conscious intervention.

A situation similar to the left-handedness of amino acids also exists with respect to nucleotides, the smallest units of the nucleic acids, DNA and RNA. In contrast to proteins, in which only left-handed amino acids are chosen, in the case of the nucleic acids, the preferred forms of their nucleotide components are always right-handed. This is another fact that can never be explained by chance.

In conclusion, it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the probabilities we have examined that the origin of life cannot be explained by chance. If we attempt to calculate the probability of an average-sized protein consisting of 400 amino acids being selected only from left-handed amino acids, we come up with a probability of 1 in 2400, or 10120. Just for a comparison, let us remember that the number of electrons in the universe is estimated at 1079, which although vast, is a much smaller number. The probability of these amino acids forming the required sequence and functional form would generate much larger numbers. If we add these probabilities to each other, and if we go on to work out the probabilities of even higher numbers and types of proteins, the calculations become inconceivable.


This is what real science (or rather operational science) is all about. The formation of cells and their component parts cannot be evolved through random chance. As rightly pointed out, adding all the factors described in your message above, it is like throwing a coin 10 billion (not million!) times and each time only the head shows up!

Sadly, no evolutionists dare to challenge this. Evolutionists and their followings (the Doggie, the Driftees, the Tornado, the Fishy, the Rojak Scientist) will just come out again and again and tell about the 'facts of fossils. They have nothing to show up beyond those dead fossils. Yes - fossils are real but they have misinterpreted and misrepresented with their so-called 'scientiific findings.'

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