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[Loofydralb]

1400 years ago n slavery still goes on by mudslimes? Guess all mudslimes are hypocrites n liars..than good mudslimes should take up arms n abolish those mudslimes who take slaves but in the end it's western countries with Christian populations that took a stand against slavery..u say Islam is anti slavery n the 1st country to abolish slavery is the UK...the last country to abolish slavery is Mauritania...under Western pressure..so for 1400 years mudslimes did nothing to end slavery?

Islam...the only religion to free slaves...n mudslimes promoted slavery better than Christianity ...

U r right..the bible never said anything about abolishing slavery...but Christians n Christianity stopped n abolish slavery whilst mudslimes continue promoting it....

You're right. There are many who claim to be muslims but are hypocrites. Allah knows who are the real muslims.

In Islam, faith is not by compulsion. If they truly believe, they will follow the teachings and let go of slavery. Otherwise they will be like the hypocrite christians talibans who will force the belief upon others.

And where did the muslims ever promoted slavery?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

You're right. There are many who claim to be muslims but are hypocrites. Allah knows who are the real muslims.

In Islam, faith is not by compulsion. If they truly believe, they will follow the teachings and let go of slavery. Otherwise they will be like the hypocrite christians talibans who will force the belief upon others.

And where did the muslims ever promoted slavery?

The Arab slave trade

 

[JohnTan]

Even when the sunni wiped out the shiites, sunni muslims will torture or kill muslims for not following islam strictly. Islam is a religion must be followed very strictly to pass judgement day.

There are also different sects within sunni islam. They would kill other sunni moslems of other sects if given the chance.

 

[JohnTan]

In Islam, faith is not by compulsion.

Your statement contradicts the mohammedan hadith scriptures.

If they truly believe, they will follow the teachings and let go of slavery.

moslems maintained slavery because they sincerely believe they were following their only 'prophet' mahomet in keeping slaves.

 

[Loofydralb]

Your statement contradicts the mohammedan hadith scriptures.

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moslems maintained slavery because they sincerely believe they were following their only 'prophet' mahomet in keeping slaves.

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Nothing wrong with the prophet exchanging a kafir slave with a believing slave. Once he is a Muslim, he is free.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Nothing wrong with the prophet exchanging a kafir slave with a believing slave. Once he is a Muslim, he is free.

So all mudslimes slaves are free?

 

[duluxe]

Slavery existed till the 1950s in Arab lands ...and u say 'conflate the wrong actions ' etc...than it's up to those so called 'good' Muslims to stand up n rebel n destroy terrorists mudslimes...but this never happened n so far u have never renounce such wrong actions, because u sympathise with all mudslimes because that is wat islam is

In theory, all muslims are good people. The bad muslims will get auto disown by pious muslims and became ex-muslims, regardless the actions of the bad muslims were influenced by the holy texts.

 

[Loofydralb]

So all mudslimes slaves are free?

Obligation is to free slaves, especially if they have accepted Islam.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Obligation is to free slaves, especially if they have accepted Islam.

And yet the abolishment of slavery was started by western countries...did mudslimes free non-mudslimes slaves?

 

[Loofydralb]

And yet the abolishment of slavery was started by western countries...did mudslimes free non-mudslimes slaves?

Wrong it started when the prophet bought and freed slaves.
Then he exhorted slave owners to do the same, long before the cruel west even could recognize that slavery was immoral.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Wrong it started when the prophet bought and freed slaves.
Then he exhorted slave owners to do the same, long before the cruel west even could recognize that slavery was immoral.

And yet the Arab slave trade flourished... nothing was done about abolishing slavery till the Brits abolish it....

 

[Loofydralb]

And yet the Arab slave trade flourished... nothing was done about abolishing slavery till the Brits abolish it....

The white west only realized the immorality of slavery when they started to abandon Christianity. So in essence christian's belief that Jesus died for their sins is the root cause.
Christians immorality knows no bounds. Guess who is engineering WW3?

 

[JohnTan]

Nothing wrong with the prophet exchanging a kafir slave with a believing slave. Once he is a Muslim, he is free.

Apparently not. Moslems continue kidnapping people for slavery and even keeping moslems in slavery because their only 'prophet' mahomet himself engaged in the slavery trade.

 

[Loofydralb]

Apparently not. Moslems continue kidnapping people for slavery and even keeping moslems in slavery because their only 'prophet' mahomet himself engaged in the slavery trade.

Again don't conflate Muslims and islam.
And yes he bought slaves and yes he freed them.

 

[JohnTan]

Again don't conflate Muslims and islam.
And yes he bought slaves and yes he freed them.

moslems do slave trafficking and kidnapping because they are following their 'prophet' mahomet. mahomet is islam and islam is mahomet.

 

[Loofydralb]

moslems do slave trafficking and kidnapping because they are following their 'prophet' mahomet. mahomet is islam and islam is mahomet.

You mean like the KKK and christians are synonymous?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

The white west only realized the immorality of slavery when they started to abandon Christianity. So in essence christian's belief that Jesus died for their sins is the root cause.
Christians immorality knows no bounds. Guess who is engineering WW3?

Mudslimes moralism like U have been saying...islam say set slaves free..but Mudslimes enforced slavery till this day...n did nothing to abolish slavery.. slavery was abolish by western countries...so why did Mudslimes not abolish slavery themselves? They promoted slavery despite what U say yr prophet say.

 

[Loofydralb]

Mudslimes moralism like U have been saying...islam say set slaves free..but Mudslimes enforced slavery till this day...n did nothing to abolish slavery.. slavery was abolish by western countries...so why did Mudslimes not abolish slavery themselves? They promoted slavery despite what U say yr prophet say.

Where is the Muslim enforced slavery that you claim?

Islam isn't Taliban. Keeping to the rules are between you and Allah except issues that corrupt the society. The concept of the Islamic state isn't like your modern day states that control and enforce everything. There is much more freedom in Islamic states.
Transgressions and the penalties are not the right of the state but the one whose loss it is upon. The state only helps you to get those rights.
Eg somebody kills your husband unjustly, state has no gain or lose in that, but you do. So you have a right to demand compensation and let he perpetrator go free or exact your pound of retribution.
And also note that in those times there were slaves who did not want to be free because they were treated so good, just that they do not want to be Muslims.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Where is the Muslim enforced slavery that you claim?

Islam isn't Taliban. Keeping to the rules are between you and Allah except issues that corrupt the society. The concept of the Islamic state isn't like your modern day states that control and enforce everything. There is much more freedom in Islamic states.
Transgressions and the penalties are not the right of the state but the one whose loss it is upon. The state only helps you to get those rights.
Eg somebody kills your husband unjustly, state has no gain or lose in that, but you do. So you have a right to demand compensation and let he perpetrator go free or exact your pound of retribution.
And also note that in those times there were slaves who did not want to be free because they were treated so good, just that they do not want to be Muslims.

Islam isn't Taliban? U sure? Aren't they Mudslimes? And as I said b4..if the prophet is against slavery, why slavery was not abolished by Mudslimes?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Where is the Muslim enforced slavery that you claim?

Islam isn't Taliban. Keeping to the rules are between you and Allah except issues that corrupt the society. The concept of the Islamic state isn't like your modern day states that control and enforce everything. There is much more freedom in Islamic states.
Transgressions and the penalties are not the right of the state but the one whose loss it is upon. The state only helps you to get those rights.
Eg somebody kills your husband unjustly, state has no gain or lose in that, but you do. So you have a right to demand compensation and let he perpetrator go free or exact your pound of retribution.
And also note that in those times there were slaves who did not want to be free because they were treated so good, just that they do not want to be Muslims.