• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Crumbling of Singapore?

Many foreigners think Singaporeans are rich but Few people know the whole truth. PAP wants us to think Singapore is rich without it saying so. The covid has caused a big dent in Singapore's reserves. How big a dent it is will depend on how long covid lasts. The cash cows pap has depended on have been badly wounded over the last two years. Cash cows are:
1. rip off HDB housing price. (if pap makes $100k per flat and builds 20k flats per year, it pockets $200,000,000 per year)
2. service, conservancy, high waterb rates and high utility rates and propety taxes (if each hdb household pays $100 a month in excess of what its costs to maintain each flat, pap pockets $100x12x1 million household = $1.2B per year)
3. Foreign worker levies (with 1m forwign workers and assuming each worker levy is $500 per month, pap pockets $500x12x1m= $6B per year)

covid has slowed down hdb building programme and cut foreign workers numbers. So to save its cash cows, pap must try to open borders, build hdb flats and bring in more foreign workers. never mind opening borders will kill more singaporeans. you die your business. PAP's cash cows must not die.

Wake up 61%
 
PAP is in trouble:
1. Hand picking a crony to be the selected president. The crony, instead of doing her job by cross checking the pap, is a yes person and just signs what the pap wants.

This is just a meaningless distraction.

President in stinkypura is just a figurehead. Got no power no worth. A token melayun or ah neh is employed to show stinkypura is diverse and tolerant. But when it comes to electing PMs, eunuch loong spilled the beans and said it like it is: Stinkypura not read for non-Chinese as PM.

No Melayun
No Ah Neh
No Eurasian
No other community can expect to be PM of stinkypura as said by eunuch loong in plain language.



6. Wrong economic policies. Building hdb flats and malls to collect revenues instead of generating revenues through manufacturing products and providing useful services. With covid, building of flats and malls are stalled. so less revenue.


Old fart Harry Lee is given undue credit.

Simple fact is just like other slanties that crooked bastard merely copied others. Basically copy pasted ang moh kias' to the tee.

When Japs did it early, when stinkypura was one of the first to do so with other tigers, it seemed temporarily, for some decades, they were some sort of miracles. As we find out with the passage of time, all of those older tigers incl Hong Kies and Taiwanese as well as stinkies, are been left in the dust.

Gooks doing better, arguably, partly because not only is it a much bigger than the other tigers (combined), but also it is a yankee poodle with yankee military base on its soil same as japs. And also it is a democracy, been so for over 3 decades now. not politically diplomatically isolated like norkies or taiwanese either.

Yet , in many objective indices, gooks fare worse than one or more of the former Asian Tigers who themselves are not doing all that well nowadays.


Now you want to manufacture X, Y or Z in stinkypura which is land scarce, already the 2nd most densely populated country after Monaco and yet without a critical mass of population, industry or companies or employees or researchers or anything notable to sustain activities (for sake of comparison, stinkypura is smaller than Hongkies and Osaka), the question is why not manufacture the same X, Y or Z in tiongkok (no 1 choice for most companies irrespective of origin in most cases)? if not tiongkok, why not ASEAN which has much bigger and cheaper pool of labour, land, bigger markets, more raw materials, economy of scale and scope to sustain activities.

Dun forget it was old fart harry lee the disgruntled bastard who broached the idea of stinkypura re-joining Malaysia about 5 to 7 years before he uplorried, no one in Malaysia wants stinkypura with all those chinks back. If anything, many Malaysians want more chinks to leave Malaysia and I think that's a reasonable desire.

The old fart could also see the writing on the wall. Using tax evasion and money laundering as the twin pillars of its supposed economic advancements could only have lasted so long and without any adequate hinterland, Stinkypura is not viable in the long run. just as it was feared not to be viable in 1965, except that by copying ang moh kias and opening their legs wide open for ang moh kias, old fart harry lee delayed the inevitable and created a faux impression that he created a miracle of sorts, which is self sustaining and admirable.

Very far from the truth was that impression.


9. PAP has already squandered at least $100B of our reserves. With halimah not doing her job to protect the reserves, will more be squandered?

The Indian Prez is just a figurehead.

No point trying to shift any blame to the figurehead.


10. Will this bunch of pap waste all our reserves?

They only know gambling.

For all the hype about old fart harry lee and pap-pigs, they have to do what pretty much all other yankee poodles do: cuddle up to their yankee masters' for some fodder.

The Zionsit terrorists publicly and openly procured hundrds of billions of $/euro worth of free aid from yanks, not to mention other private and indirect aid and donations.

Southern Gooks or Taiwanese - similar stories. They looked up to their yankee masters, just planted a slanty rice eating chopstick version of yankee in korean peninsula and formosa. nothing more.

Those inveterate gamblers' new trick is to pour their reserves on yankee "big tech" coys. Some of them alone worth more than a trillion due to massive printing press activity by their central bank.

These artificially pumped up coys valuations then raise stinkypura supposed reserves, which is used to fund many activities or needs.

Essentially, they print money out of thin air to meet many of their needs. And this scam is coated - like onions - in multiple layers upon layers of mysterious rules and descriptions that are intended to bamboozle your average reader who is brainwashed already by mass commercial silly media propaganda day in day out that is meant to dumb down the masses to the level of a tiong villager or a CECA dalit.




12. Singapore will crumble because of 3G and 4G PAP
13. LKY's batch build Singapore. Will LHL and HSK's batches destroy Singapore?


3G and 4G are incompetent for sure.

Not sure if LKY or gang could have fared much better.

The secret sauce is just copying ang moh kias earlier.

Look at Japs.

After '90s they lost their mojo. still haven't got it back. Why?

Simple.

No ideas.

Copy cat copy paste may look miraculous when they are catching up. Same for stinkies or gooks or tiongkok. Once that method runs out of steam, slanties chopstick races are barren deserts for novel original ideas in any discipline or area of endeavour or activity.
 
This is just a meaningless distraction.

President in stinkypura is just a figurehead. Got no power no worth. A token melayun or ah neh is employed to show stinkypura is diverse and tolerant. But when it comes to electing PMs, eunuch loong spilled the beans and said it like it is: Stinkypura not read for non-Chinese as PM.

No Melayun
No Ah Neh
No Eurasian
No other community can expect to be PM of stinkypura as said by eunuch loong in plain language.
I absolutely disagree with you. Singapore's Elected President has very honourable duties to fulfil. The EP is not supposed to be useless. Just because SRN, TT and halimah are useless, doesnt mean that the EP has no role or duty to do
 
I absolutely disagree with you. Singapore's Elected President has very honourable duties to fulfil. The EP is not supposed to be useless. Just because SRN, TT and halimah are useless, doesnt mean that the EP has no role or duty to do

how about the elected presidency be restricted to ethnic chinese for ever while the PM position be restricted to non chinese forever, then?

yeah. right. i don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
 
If halimah wants to be EP but is useless, who do we blame if not her?

the puppet master
The President is just a figurehead.
It's the PM that has all the executive powers.

Which is why eunuch loong spilled the beans when he said stinkypura not ready for non chinese PM. who are you trying to fool here?
 
how about the elected presidency be restricted to ethnic chinese for ever while the PM position be restricted to non chinese forever, then?

yeah. right. i don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
Why is there a need to restrict anyone from being an Elected President if she or he is popularly elected?

Why is there to restrict any race from becoming the PM?

Dont let pap tell you what they want. One day pap will be the Opposition, just like. LHL or HSK cant speak for Singaporeans and tell ue]s we are not ready for a non Chinese PM.
 
the puppet master
The President is just a figurehead.
It's the PM that has all the executive powers.

Which is why eunuch loong spilled the beans when he said stinkypura not ready for non chinese PM. who are you trying to fool here?
You are so naive to say that the EP is a figurehead. Just because an EP is not doing her duty, doesnt mean all EPs are figureheads.

What are the role and powers of the Singapore President?

As stated on the Istana’s official website, the President plays 3 crucial roles:

  1. Ceremonial role: As the Head of State, the President officiates at state events, and represents Singapore on the global stage in cultivating and enhancing relationships with other countries.
  2. Community role: The President may lend weight to and promote social and charitable causes, as well as attend community events.
  3. Constitutional role: The President has powers provided for under the Constitution which he or she may exercise. These powers can be classified into 3 categories, namely, financial powers, powers concerning the appointment of key office holders, and miscellaneous powers.

Financial Powers

The President may disapprove:

  • Any budgets of any statutory board or government company, if he or she is of the view that the budget is likely to draw on reserves not accumulated by that statutory board or government company during the Government’s current term of office; and
  • Any proposed transaction of a statutory board or government company, if he or she is of the view that the budget is likely to draw on reserves not accumulated by the statutory board or government company prior to the Government’s current term of office.
Also, the President may withhold assent to/not concur with:

  • Any Bill passed by Parliament which changes, either directly or indirectly, the powers of the Central Provident Fund (CPF) Board to invest CPF monies;
  • Any Bill passed by Parliament which allows the borrowing of money, giving of guarantee, or raising of loan by the Government, if the Bill, in his or her view, is likely to draw on reserves not accumulated by the Government during its current term of office;
  • Any Supply Bill, Supplementary Supply Bill or Final Supply Bill for any financial year if, in his or her view, the estimates, supplementary estimates or the statement of excess are likely to draw on the reserves which were not accumulated by the Government during its current term of office;
  • The making of advances from a Contingencies Fund that Parliament may create, which, in the President’s view, if replaced, is likely to draw on the reserves which were not accumulated by the Government during its current term of office;
  • Any resolutions passed by Parliament authorising expenditure for part of any year before the passing of the Supply law for that year, but the aggregate sums so voted shall be included under the appropriate heads, in the Supply law for that year; and
  • Any resolutions passed by Parliament authorising expenditure for the whole or part of the year, if it appears to Parliament desirable to do so due to the magnitude or indefinite character of any service, or to circumstances of unusual urgency.

Powers Concerning the Appointment of Key Office Holders

The President may refuse to appoint a person to any of the following offices, or to revoke such appointment, if he or she does not agree with the advice or recommendation of the authority on whose advice or recommendation he or she is to act:

  • The Chief Justice, Judges of the Supreme Court, and the Judicial Commissioners, Senior Judges and International Judges of the Supreme Court;
  • The Attorney-General;
  • The Chairman and members of the Presidential Council for Minority Rights;
  • The chairman and members of the Presidential Council for Religious Harmony (the “PCRH”);
  • The chairman and members of an advisory board constituted to ascertain whether a person should be detained for more than 3 months without trial;
  • The Chairman and members of the Public Service Commission (PSC), and the members of a personnel board established to exercise powers and functions of the PSC;
  • A member of the Legal Service Commission (other than the Chief Justice, the Attorney-General and and the Chairman of the PSC) and the members of a personnel board established to exercise the powers and functions of the Legal Service Commission;
  • The Chief Valuer;
  • The Auditor-General;
  • The Accountant-General;
  • The Chief of Defence Force;
  • The Chiefs of the Air Force, Army and Navy;
  • A member (other than an ex-officio member) of the Armed Forces Council;
  • The Commissioner of Police; and
  • The Director of the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB).
Where the President has been authorised by written law to appoint the chairman, chief executive officer or member of a statutory board, the President may refuse to make any such appointment, or to revoke such appointment, if he or she does not agree with the advice or recommendation of the authority on whose advice or recommendation he or she is required to act.

If the President has not been given such authority by written law, his or her consent is required before an appointment to the office of chairman, chief executive officer, or member of any statutory board, or the revocation of such appointment, may be made.

Finally, the President’s consent is required before a person is appointed to or removed from the position of a chief executive officer or a director of a Government company.

Finally, the President is empowered to shall appoint a Member of Parliament (MP) as Prime Minister who in the President’s judgement is likely to command the confidence of the majority of the MPs. Also, the President shall appoint MPs to fill the positions of the other Ministers, based on the Prime Minister’s advice.

Miscellaneous Powers

Other than the specific powers conferred upon the President, the President is also vested with a variety of other miscellaneous powers.

The President may:

  • Discontinue a Parliamentary session: The President may dissolve Parliament upon the PM’s advice.
  • Withhold his assent to any Bill: This excludes a Bill that aims to amend the Constitution if the Bill seeks to, directly or indirectly, circumvent or curtail the President’s discretionary powers provided for under the Constitution.
  • Consent to the Director of the CPIB making inquiries or conducting investigations: Such inquiries or investigations are made in respect of any information received by the Director regarding the conduct of a person, or any allegation or complaint made against a person.
  • Cancel, vary, confirm or refuse to confirm a restraining order made under the Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act: This can be done where the advice of the Cabinet is contrary to the recommendation of the PCRH.
  • Provide concurrence for preventive detention: This is required where the advisory board constituted to ascertain whether a person should be preventively detained recommends that the person be released, and the authority which advised or ordered that person’s detention does not accept such recommendation. Such person cannot be detained, or further detained, without the President’s concurrence.
  • Appoint members of the Council of Presidential Advisers: The President may appoint 3 out of the 8 members that constitute the Council, and may nominate a member of the Council to be the Chairman.
  • Refer questions regarding the effect of any constitutional provision: The President may refer to a tribunal, consisting of at least 3 Supreme Court Judges, any question regarding the effect of any provision in the Constitution which has arisen or appears to the President likely to arise.
  • Issue a Proclamation of Emergency: The President may issue a Proclamation of Emergency where he or she is satisfied that the security or economic life of Singapore is threatened such that it constitutes a grave emergency.
  • Grant an offender clemency: This power is exercised on Cabinet’s advice. The President may also remit a sentence, penalty or forfeiture imposed by law.
As seen, the President assumes several roles and has a range of powers that he or she may exercise based on his or her discretion.
 
Last edited:
Why is there a need to restrict anyone from being an Elected President if she or he is popularly elected?

Why is there to restrict any race from becoming the PM?

Dont let pap tell you what they want. One day pap will be the Opposition, just like. LHL or HSK cant speak for Singaporeans and tell ue]s we are not ready for a non Chinese PM.

In case you didn't know, PAP-pigs = stinkapoor.
 
You are so naive to say that the EP is a figurehead. Just because an EP is not doing her duty, doesnt mean all EPs are figureheads.

What are the role and powers of the Singapore President?

As stated on the Istana’s official website, the President plays 3 crucial roles:

  1. Ceremonial role: As the Head of State, the President officiates at state events, and represents Singapore on the global stage in cultivating and enhancing relationships with other countries.
  2. Community role: The President may lend weight to and promote social and charitable causes, as well as attend community events.
  3. Constitutional role: The President has powers provided for under the Constitution which he or she may exercise. These powers can be classified into 3 categories, namely, financial powers, powers concerning the appointment of key office holders, and miscellaneous powers.

Financial Powers

The President may disapprove:

  • Any budgets of any statutory board or government company, if he or she is of the view that the budget is likely to draw on reserves not accumulated by that statutory board or government company during the Government’s current term of office; and
  • Any proposed transaction of a statutory board or government company, if he or she is of the view that the budget is likely to draw on reserves not accumulated by the statutory board or government company prior to the Government’s current term of office.
Also, the President may withhold assent to/not concur with:

  • Any Bill passed by Parliament which changes, either directly or indirectly, the powers of the Central Provident Fund (CPF) Board to invest CPF monies;
  • Any Bill passed by Parliament which allows the borrowing of money, giving of guarantee, or raising of loan by the Government, if the Bill, in his or her view, is likely to draw on reserves not accumulated by the Government during its current term of office;
  • Any Supply Bill, Supplementary Supply Bill or Final Supply Bill for any financial year if, in his or her view, the estimates, supplementary estimates or the statement of excess are likely to draw on the reserves which were not accumulated by the Government during its current term of office;
  • The making of advances from a Contingencies Fund that Parliament may create, which, in the President’s view, if replaced, is likely to draw on the reserves which were not accumulated by the Government during its current term of office;
  • Any resolutions passed by Parliament authorising expenditure for part of any year before the passing of the Supply law for that year, but the aggregate sums so voted shall be included under the appropriate heads, in the Supply law for that year; and
  • Any resolutions passed by Parliament authorising expenditure for the whole or part of the year, if it appears to Parliament desirable to do so due to the magnitude or indefinite character of any service, or to circumstances of unusual urgency.

Powers Concerning the Appointment of Key Office Holders

The President may refuse to appoint a person to any of the following offices, or to revoke such appointment, if he or she does not agree with the advice or recommendation of the authority on whose advice or recommendation he or she is to act:

  • The Chief Justice, Judges of the Supreme Court, and the Judicial Commissioners, Senior Judges and International Judges of the Supreme Court;
  • The Attorney-General;
  • The Chairman and members of the Presidential Council for Minority Rights;
  • The chairman and members of the Presidential Council for Religious Harmony (the “PCRH”);
  • The chairman and members of an advisory board constituted to ascertain whether a person should be detained for more than 3 months without trial;
  • The Chairman and members of the Public Service Commission (PSC), and the members of a personnel board established to exercise powers and functions of the PSC;
  • A member of the Legal Service Commission (other than the Chief Justice, the Attorney-General and and the Chairman of the PSC) and the members of a personnel board established to exercise the powers and functions of the Legal Service Commission;
  • The Chief Valuer;
  • The Auditor-General;
  • The Accountant-General;
  • The Chief of Defence Force;
  • The Chiefs of the Air Force, Army and Navy;
  • A member (other than an ex-officio member) of the Armed Forces Council;
  • The Commissioner of Police; and
  • The Director of the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB).
Where the President has been authorised by written law to appoint the chairman, chief executive officer or member of a statutory board, the President may refuse to make any such appointment, or to revoke such appointment, if he or she does not agree with the advice or recommendation of the authority on whose advice or recommendation he or she is required to act.

If the President has not been given such authority by written law, his or her consent is required before an appointment to the office of chairman, chief executive officer, or member of any statutory board, or the revocation of such appointment, may be made.

Finally, the President’s consent is required before a person is appointed to or removed from the position of a chief executive officer or a director of a Government company.

Finally, the President is empowered to shall appoint a Member of Parliament (MP) as Prime Minister who in the President’s judgement is likely to command the confidence of the majority of the MPs. Also, the President shall appoint MPs to fill the positions of the other Ministers, based on the Prime Minister’s advice.

Miscellaneous Powers

Other than the specific powers conferred upon the President, the President is also vested with a variety of other miscellaneous powers.

The President may:

  • Discontinue a Parliamentary session: The President may dissolve Parliament upon the PM’s advice.
  • Withhold his assent to any Bill: This excludes a Bill that aims to amend the Constitution if the Bill seeks to, directly or indirectly, circumvent or curtail the President’s discretionary powers provided for under the Constitution.
  • Consent to the Director of the CPIB making inquiries or conducting investigations: Such inquiries or investigations are made in respect of any information received by the Director regarding the conduct of a person, or any allegation or complaint made against a person.
  • Cancel, vary, confirm or refuse to confirm a restraining order made under the Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act: This can be done where the advice of the Cabinet is contrary to the recommendation of the PCRH.
  • Provide concurrence for preventive detention: This is required where the advisory board constituted to ascertain whether a person should be preventively detained recommends that the person be released, and the authority which advised or ordered that person’s detention does not accept such recommendation. Such person cannot be detained, or further detained, without the President’s concurrence.
  • Appoint members of the Council of Presidential Advisers: The President may appoint 3 out of the 8 members that constitute the Council, and may nominate a member of the Council to be the Chairman.
  • Refer questions regarding the effect of any constitutional provision: The President may refer to a tribunal, consisting of at least 3 Supreme Court Judges, any question regarding the effect of any provision in the Constitution which has arisen or appears to the President likely to arise.
  • Issue a Proclamation of Emergency: The President may issue a Proclamation of Emergency where he or she is satisfied that the security or economic life of Singapore is threatened such that it constitutes a grave emergency.
  • Grant an offender clemency: This power is exercised on Cabinet’s advice. The President may also remit a sentence, penalty or forfeiture imposed by law.
As seen, the President assumes several roles and has a range of powers that he or she may exercise based on his or her discretion.


BS

  • Ceremonial role: As the Head of State, the President officiates at state events, and represents Singapore on the global stage in cultivating and enhancing relationships with other countries.
this sums it up

the prez is there only for a ceremonial role that's why it's placed at 1st position.

rest is just mumbo jumbo meant to fill up space
 
BS

  • Ceremonial role: As the Head of State, the President officiates at state events, and represents Singapore on the global stage in cultivating and enhancing relationships with other countries.
this sums it up

the prez is there only for a ceremonial role that's why it's placed at 1st position.

rest is just mumbo jumbo meant to fill up space
The roles and duties of Singapore's Elected President are clearly spelt out.

They are not bullshit just because halimah does not do her duties diligently.
 
The roles and duties of Singapore's Elected President are clearly spelt out.

They are not bullshit just because halimah does not do her duties diligently.

It is clearly spelt out first and foremost that the President of Stinkypura is a figurehead and his/her role is purely ceremonial. It is only your fault that this simple notion continues to elude you.
 
It is clearly spelt out first and foremost that the President of Stinkypura is a figurehead and his/her role is purely ceremonial. It is only your fault that this simple notion continues to elude you.
Despite the important roles and responsibilties which are clearly spelt out, there are some singaporeans, like mudhatter and halimah, who think that the Elected Prersident is just a figure head. Ignorance does not mean it is right for halimah to be a figure head. Tony, halimah are figure heads. But that does not mean that the EP is a figure head
 
Disagree

old guards != 4G
Past pap wanted everyone to be able to own a home now 4G are the fucks
SPH has been in cahoots with PAP to hide the truth from singaporeans for the last 56yrs. Now SPH media is dead as no one trust it. By 2022, SPH will be no more. and will go under Kep Corp. After that to go is PAP. It will be out of govt and be in Opposition. It is a matter of time, probably in the next two or three GEs
 
Last edited:
Despite the important roles and responsibilties which are clearly spelt out, there are some singaporeans, like mudhatter and halimah, who think that the Elected Prersident is just a figure head. Ignorance does not mean it is right for halimah to be a figure head. Tony, halimah are figure heads. But that does not mean that the EP is a figure head

It is clearly spelt out first and foremost that the President of Stinkypura is a figurehead and his/her role is purely ceremonial. It is only your fault that this simple notion continues to elude you.
 
Yes ..with these boomers around
a27d24_ced0a1316f624db58f692ba5ee8736b8~mv2.webp

Dp6SQhul.jpg

onl3qoe.png

a27d24_ce52ed279ccd48528bac1b8a844b8108~mv2.webp


a27d24_fcc6dbaacc6745daa0c69d553e4ed5e2~mv2.webp
 
Last edited:
Back
Top