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Crumbling of Singapore?

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13. Even the handicap are not spared. Were they collateral damage in the clash between Govt and dissenters. From every angle I look, the Govt, MPs, YMCA, Han HH are all responsible for the ugly show at Hong Lim yesterday. You are right. Singapore is indeed crumbling.

Many businesses in SG are not doing well for the past three months. With USA and Europe not doing well too, will SG go into a recession next year?? Will the property bubble burst soon? With many unsold condos, will the property companies default on their loans?

With WTI oil selling at US$85 and Brent at US$91 per barrel, what are the implications for SG blue chip companies like Kep Corp, SIA, BDS, etc?
 

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Any Singapore politician who fights for foreigners and proclaim that they must enjoy equal Singaporeans' rights when these foreigners do not shoulder equal Singaporeans' responsibilities is a traitor. Worse is when these politicians use pap control mass media to scold Singaporeans who fight that equal rights come with equal responsibilities as xenophobic. These Singaporean politicians are a disgrace and a danger to Singapore and cause wide foreigners/singaporeans divide in SG.

Guess who is the main culprit in this area?
 

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Any Singapore politician who fights for foreigners and proclaim that they must enjoy equal Singaporeans' rights when these foreigners do not shoulder equal Singaporeans' responsibilities is a traitor. Worse is when these politicians use pap control mass media to scold Singaporeans who fight that equal rights come with equal responsibilities as xenophobic. These Singaporean politicians are a disgrace and a danger to Singapore and cause wide foreigners/singaporeans divide in SG.

Guess who is the main culprit in this area?

If any foreigner or PR want to enjoy same rights as Singaporeans, he must apply to be a Singapore Citizen and if found suitable, become a Singaporean. Then he will enjoy equal rights. If not accepted as a Singaporean, he continues to be a foreigner. Citizenship comes with privileges and responsibilities

A foreigner cannot demand equal rights, opportunities, treatment, etc if he doesn't want to become a Singaporean and shoulder equal responsibilities. How can we allow a Singapore politician to fight for equal rights, equal opportunities, equal treatment for foreigners? Vote that politician out at the next GE.

Singaporeans need to wake up and know who their enemy is.

Our enemy is not the foreigner. Our enemy is the Singaporean politician who fights against Singaporeans.
 
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Any Singapore politician who fights for foreigners and proclaim that they must enjoy equal Singaporeans' rights when these foreigners do not shoulder equal Singaporeans' responsibilities is a traitor. Worse is when these politicians use pap control mass media to scold Singaporeans who fight that equal rights come with equal responsibilities as xenophobic. These Singaporean politicians are a disgrace and a danger to Singapore and cause wide foreigners/singaporeans divide in SG.

Guess who is the main culprit in this area?

Kindly tell us who. Been a long time since I read Singapore newspaper and news website.
 

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Kindly tell us who. Been a long time since I read Singapore newspaper and news website.

Looks like you have not been keeping in touch with Singapore and Singaporeans.

Do you agree that Singaporean politicians who fight for equal benefits for foreigners without shouldering equal responsibilities are traitors?
 

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Yes. And I suspect there's a deeper reason besides the obvious manpower, political economical reason which is the old fart discriminate against the majority of the local breed 土生土長 Singaporeans.

But that's just my hypothesis.
 
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Yes. And I suspect there's a deeper reason besides the obvious manpower, political economical reason which is the old fart discriminate against the majority of the local breed 土生土長 Singaporeans.

But that's just my hypothesis.

I am glad that you agree that Singapore politicians must fight for a better Singapore and better life for Singaporeans. Singapore politicians must be of Singaporeans, by Singaporeans and for Singaporeans
 

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No, I am just curious, what is your definition of a Singaporean. Who is a Singaporean? And I am not talking about i/c or birth certificate...
 

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No, I am just curious, what is your definition of a Singaporean. Who is a Singaporean? And I am not talking about i/c or birth certificate...

I am a simple person. To me a Singaporean is a citizen of Singapore who loves the country, will defend Singapore when it is threatened and will work for the betterment of other fellow citizens.

You are right. Some people have warped and complicated ideas of who a Singaporean is. LHL thinks that he can import a PRC from a China village and make him a Singaporean overnight. I disagree with him. A Singaporean is not just a person who holds a Singapore passport. A Singaporean must embrace the values, ethos and feel proud when Majulah Singapura is sung, etc.

Who do you think is a Singaporean?
 
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No, I am just curious, what is your definition of a Singaporean. Who is a Singaporean? And I am not talking about i/c or birth certificate...

What do you think of PAP's knee jerk reaction to open up the SAF to Volunteers and allow them to choose their preferred vocations considering that true blue SG guys are compelled to do two years NS without option?
 

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I am a simple person. To me a Singaporean is a citizen of Singapore who loves the country, will defend Singapore when it is threatened and will work for the betterment of other fellow citizens.

You are right. Some people have warped and complicated ideas of who a Singaporean is. LHL thinks that he can import a PRC from a China village and make him a Singaporean overnight. I disagree with him. A Singaporean is not just a person who holds a Singapore passport. A Singaporean must embrace the values, ethos and feel proud when Majulah Singapura is sung, etc.

Who do you think is a Singaporean?

Someohow I just find that the PAP machinery is too big, Singaporeans are being brainwashed into many things. We are heavily influnenced by the PAP gahmen and their political leaders.
 

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What do you think of PAP's knee jerk reaction to open up the SAF to Volunteers and allow them to choose their preferred vocations considering that true blue SG guys are compelled to do two years NS without option?

To me NS is not the priority issue. The priority issue is our identity. Who are we? What is our way of life? What are our values? What are we defending besides this piece of land? After settling those urgent issue, then talk about NS. Else, 爲誰而戰??
 
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Someohow I just find that the PAP machinery is too big, Singaporeans are being brainwashed into many things. We are heavily influnenced by the PAP gahmen and their political leaders.

That's true.

The motive to brainwash Singaporeans was evil. The pap leadership must do the right thing now and not continue to do evil things. Let the truth be heard.
 

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To me NS is not the priority issue. The priority issue is our identity. Who are we? What is our way of life? What are our values? What are we defending besides this piece of land? After settling those urgent issue, then talk about NS. Else, 爲誰而戰??

That's true. so shd the pap compel SG guys to do NS and allow foreigners to have the advantage of not being burdened by NS?
 

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The more important question, if we keep our sovereignty our land, but spiritually we are devoid, we are Juz another mindless pap cog and digit, what's the point of our ns? Anyway, I agree with u, everyone should do ns, no exception for new immigrants.
 

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The more important question, if we keep our sovereignty our land, but spiritually we are devoid, we are Juz another mindless pap cog and digit

Agree. Singapore should not blindly pursue economic growth at all expense. This is something which LHL and the PAP cant grasp. And because of their blind pursuit of materialism at all costs, LHL and PAP have done irreparable damage to Singapore and Singaporeans. LHL has no vision for Singapore. His idea of well being is to rope in all kinds of businesses and people into SG...casinos, gambling, horse racing, prostitution, loan sharking, etc. LHL has not done anything to help promote manufacturing, companies, etc.

I feel that what lhl and pap did will result in the crumbling of SG

That's why I started this thread.
 
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