Cruise Ships Punters Eg Leisure World , Long Jie , Virgo FALLs In Here ...

[DutukLim]

How come this thread is live again. And how come nobody goes on SC my regular haunt.

justl00king, I hear you are a bac player. So am I. Can discuss how differently we play the game

 

[AhDin97]

Just back from LW,notice that the insurance payout is different ONLY on 4pts for bac.
If player draws a 4pt & banker 3pt ,insurance will pays 1.but if is the other way round, the payout is 1 pays 1.5.
Anyone knows why?

 

[justl00king]

How come this thread is live again. And how come nobody goes on SC my regular haunt.

justl00king, I hear you are a bac player. So am I. Can discuss how differently we play the game

Hi bro, I follow the chart to see patterns and a trend player.

I guess most do not go SC as need to pay the high cruise charges, might as well just pay levy to go IR. Or do you have free cruise or redeem via rws points?

 

[justl00king]

Just back from LW,notice that the insurance payout is different ONLY on 4pts for bac.
If player draws a 4pt & banker 3pt ,insurance will pays 1.but if is the other way round, the payout is 1 pays 1.5.
Anyone knows why?

I think these are lousy odds, never seen such insurance odds.
When I was playing at LJ or RWS, the insurance odds are

6 points- 1 pay 3
7 points- 1 pay 4
8 points- 1 pay 7
9 points- 1 pay 8 tie pay

Good to buy some insurance if you are playing big bets, otherwise..just fight!

 

[DutukLim]

Hi bro, I follow the chart to see patterns and a trend player.

I guess most do not go SC as need to pay the high cruise charges, might as well just pay levy to go IR. Or do you have free cruise or redeem via rws points?

I just follow the crowd. If the betting is split I just take a break from betting.

I think you are right about SC Gemini. In Penang SC Libra and Amusement World are both doing fabulously there. Libra seaport tax is RM68 and I think AW is half that. Gemini seaport tax is much higher than Leisure World. I pay with GP and for me it cost me very little. Maybe not the same for other people. Gemini is doing very badly in SG.

 

[justl00king]

I just follow the crowd. If the betting is split I just take a break from betting.

I think you are right about SC Gemini. In Penang SC Libra and Amusement World are both doing fabulously there. Libra seaport tax is RM68 and I think AW is half that. Gemini seaport tax is much higher than Leisure World. I pay with GP and for me it cost me very little. Maybe not the same for other people. Gemini is doing very badly in SG.

The LW cruise is a really old ship, the cabins and all are much overdue for a makeover!

So I wouldn't mind going SC if they offer free/discounted/rebate cabins, I'll gladly pay the seaport tax.
Can double up as a holiday cruise cum some gaming, plus free food!
But no idea how to go about it, so never tried.

Guess it's also convenience, wanna play just drive to IR, easy access.
Good luck and heng heng bro!

 

[AhDin97]

I think these are lousy odds, never seen such insurance odds.
When I was playing at LJ or RWS, the insurance odds are

6 points- 1 pay 3
7 points- 1 pay 4
8 points- 1 pay 7
9 points- 1 pay 8 tie pay



Good to buy some insurance if you are playing big bets, otherwise..just fight!

Bro,the above odds u mentioned is right at LW.
What i mean is when player stands at 4pt,ins is 1 pay 1,but when banker stands at 4pt ,ins is 1 pay 1.5.

 

[DutukLim]

The LW cruise is a really old ship, the cabins and all are much overdue for a makeover!

So I wouldn't mind going SC if they offer free/discounted/rebate cabins, I'll gladly pay the seaport tax.
Can double up as a holiday cruise cum some gaming, plus free food!
But no idea how to go about it, so never tried.

Guess it's also convenience, wanna play just drive to IR, easy access.
Good luck and heng heng bro!

Gemini has a program where if you get 12 GP you get 1 free cabin night. For bac if you flat bet you will theoretically lose $13.5 per GP.
I go on the Libra to get my GPs. You get 1 free night for every 10GP but you are paying in MYR. So effectively you are paying $5 per GP. For the popular 3N cruise to PG & LKY it will cost me 30 x $5 i.e. $150 for this cruise on the Gemini.
Nowadays with the low cost airline you would pay just over $100 for a return SG-PG ticket.

 

[justl00king]

Bro,the above odds u mentioned is right at LW.
What i mean is when player stands at 4pt,ins is 1 pay 1,but when banker stands at 4pt ,ins is 1 pay 1.5.

I normally do not like to play insurance as I'm just a small player. Unless when doing bigger bets like 1k or 2k, then I may buy some to cover the bet.

To me, this insurance thing is just another way to increase the house odds, same like banker tax.
So only those 1 pay 3 or above I will consider.

Eg- 1k bet on 7 points, insurance at 1 pay 4, I'll just cover 200/250. But not always though, will only buy insurance pending my gaming form and also that of the table.

Good luck and heng heng bro!

 

[justl00king]

Gemini has a program where if you get 12 GP you get 1 free cabin night. For bac if you flat bet you will theoretically lose $15 per GP.
I go on the Libra to get my GPs. You get 1 free night for every 10GP but you are paying in MYR. So effectively you are paying $4 per GP. For the popular 3N cruise to PG & LKY it will cost me 30 x $4 i.e. $120 for this cruise on the Gemini.
Nowadays with the low cost airline you would pay just over $100 for a return SG-PG ticket.

Sounds good! Board direct via harbourfront?

I got no GP points, but I've few hundred rws points that's expiring soon, can use to redeem free cabins?
Last time at LJ, I get free cabin via rolling rebates. They also have the Thursday night CNW cruise as well, with direct boarding so quite convenient.

 

[DutukLim]

Sounds good! Board direct via harbourfront?

I got no GP points, but I've few hundred rws points that's expiring soon, can use to redeem free cabins?
Last time at LJ, I get free cabin via rolling rebates. They also have the Thursday night CNW cruise as well, with direct boarding so quite convenient.

Yes, boarding at Harbourfront.
RWS points cannot be used on SC or GH.

 

[justl00king]

Yes, boarding at Harbourfront.
RWS points cannot be used on SC or GH.

Thanks for the info bro.

You have heng heng trips onboard SC, huat ah!

 

[AhDin97]

I normally do not like to play insurance as I'm just a small player. Unless when doing bigger bets like 1k or 2k, then I may buy some to cover the bet.

To me, this insurance thing is just another way to increase the house odds, same like banker tax.
So only those 1 pay 3 or above I will consider.

Eg- 1k bet on 7 points, insurance at 1 pay 4, I'll just cover 200/250. But not always though, will only buy insurance pending my gaming form and also that of the table.

Good luck and heng heng bro!

Me too..only when 200 & above i may buy some & only when is 1 pays 3(standing at 6 pts).
But im very curious to know that the odds for both player & banker are the same except when it comes to 4pts,player gets 1 to 1 payout n banker gets 1.5 payout

 

[justl00king]

Me too..only when 200 & above i may buy some & only when is 1 pays 3(standing at 6 pts).
But im very curious to know that the odds for both player & banker are the same except when it comes to 4pts,player gets 1 to 1 payout n banker gets 1.5 payout

I reckon could be due to probability,house odds, whether the need to draw third card etc.
Just like there's only banker 5% tax but none for player, or banker 6 half payment but none for player.

Attach the drawing card rules for your reference
http://www.blackjack-strategycard.com/baccarat_strategy_&_rules.htm

Anyway, these are lousy odds, will not even consider, just fight!

 

[terry85]

Below are the infomation on benefits @ LW.

Cruise tickets $43.

NN Chips buy in for ferry tickets rebates.

Buy in $300 - Rebate $25
Buy in $500 - Rebate $35

Promotion on last ferry 8:30pm from Sunday night to thursday Night (Exclude eve of public holidays) @ only $13.

NN Chips check in for ferry tickets:

$100 - Rebate $5

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Cabin Prices are as below:

Buy in NN Chips for free cabin:
Buy in $1500 - Sunday to thursday
Buy in $2500 - Friday & Saturday

*You may slowly roll your chips and accumulate instead of buying in directly.

Payment by cash:
$40 - Sunday to Thursday
$80 - Friday & Saturday

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To enjoy rolling commission in the casino, you may opt for Junket or house.

Junket available are in various colours: Red, Orange, Blue, Yellow, Pink.

House rolling comm is at 1% for <10k check in & 1.2% for >10k check in.

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New activities started 2 weeks ago, Live BPL soccer betting available at treasure cove(Climb up the round staircase in the middle of the casino) every weekends. Cash payments and payout directly after match ends.
Enjoy beer at promotional prices. 5 bottles of assorted beers at only $12 nett.

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For ferry ticket booking or more enquires call New century tours @ 6214 2822.

 

[DutukLim]

Sounds like a good deal especially for the Uncles and Aunties. Definitely lower price points than SC. Especially for the free cabins. But how about the bed bugs.

 

[AhDin97]

Another trend i noticed is some punter will use a 1k capital and once they win around 30% they stop...and this continue for another 2~3 days... but when they lose,not only their capital are gone they still either went to atm or resort to borrowing.
Reason behind: human emotion

 

[AhDin97]

Below are the infomation on benefits @ LW.

Cruise tickets $43.
i
NN Chips buy in for ferry tickets rebates.

Buy in $300 - Rebate $25
Buy in $500 - Rebate $35

Promotion on last ferry 8:30pm from Sunday night to thursday Night (Exclude eve of public holidays) @ only $13.

NN Chips check in for ferry tickets:

$100 - Rebate $5

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cabin Prices are as below:

Buy in NN Chips for free cabin:
Buy in $1500 - Sunday to thursday
Buy in $2500 - Friday & Saturday

*You may slowly roll your chips and accumulate instead of buying in directly.

Payment by cash:
$40 - Sunday to Thursday
$80 - Friday & Saturday

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

To enjoy rolling commission in the casino, you may opt for Junket or house.

Junket available are in various colours: Red, Orange, Blue, Yellow, Pink.

House rolling comm is at 1% for <10k check in & 1.2% for >10k check in.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

New activities started 2 weeks ago, Live BPL soccer betting available at treasure cove(Climb up the round staircase in the middle of the casino) every weekends. Cash payments and payout directly after match ends.
Enjoy beer at promotional prices. 5 bottles of assorted beers at only $12 nett.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For ferry ticket booking or more enquires call New century tours @ 6214 2822.

Bro,u mean they accept bets on BPL nowadays?

 

[justl00king]

Sounds like a good deal especially for the Uncles and Aunties. Definitely lower price points than SC. Especially for the free cabins. But how about the bed bugs.

Cheap ferry after rebate, free food onboard and low min bets at the tables. All these are to entice the older folks which have lots of time on their hands. This is why LW is still floating all this while, they definitely got the strategy right!

As for the bed bugs, I wouldn't dare lay on the bed. Unless really tired, I'll use the towel provided by them to put on top. Once I even brought my own set of bedsheets and pillow case! The other thing is the towel, I always bring my own or just buy from the shop there. :p

Give you an impression on the condition of the cabin. But to be fair to them, I'm a cleanliness freak.

 

[justl00king]

Another trend i noticed is some punter will use a 1k capital and once they win around 30% they stop...and this continue for another 2~3 days... but when they lose,not only their capital are gone they still either went to atm or resort to borrowing.
Reason behind: human emotion

Happens when one loses and hope to fight back with more bankroll.
One can be winning for many days, but can't withstand losses for next few days. Reason being losses on those days will normally be more than the winning ones.

I adopt a cut loss method, if I win right from the start, I'll leave.
If lose the BR, I'll try to fight back with backup BR. Once I recover to breakeven, I stop.
BR intact to fight another day.
Those days of BR and backup BR also gone, time to go home. :*: