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[COVID-19 Virus] The Sinkies are fucked Thread.
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surely fucked this time...
prepare for second wave...
It does not really matter how many waves there because very few of those that test positive are actually sick.
Bloody shit skins want to fuck up kangaroo land,,if got cock up,,these ah nehs willing to bear all liability? This kind of shit excuse also can give about letting a non-citizen in for mental health reasons,,,as if ah nehs care about their daughters....and there are more than 50k kangaroos trying to come back and keep getting knocked back,,,and they let foreigners in,,,the Kangaroo gahmen is just as dumb as the PAP
India travel ban proposed after coronavirus cases in Perth hotel quarantine prompts concern
By Nicolas Perpitch
Posted 32mminutes ago
Suresh Rajan says there would need to be exceptions to any ban on travel from India.(
ABC News: Rhiannon Shine
)
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Key points:
Her uncle is not an Australian citizen but is applying under the current system to come to Western Australia.
Mr McGowan will raise the proposed ban with National Cabinet, saying in the past month alone 40 per cent of cases in WA quarantine hotels had recently been in India.
That is up from 11 per cent in the previous month.
India has become the new global epicentre of coronavirus, averaging almost 250,000 new cases each day.
India's health system has struggled heavily under the weight of new infections.(
Reuters: Danish Siddiqui, File Photo
)
Mr McGowan's call came after two people staying at a Perth quarantine hotel contracted the UK strain of COVID-19 from returned overseas travellers from India who were in another room.
Mr Rajan said he broadly supported the suggestion but hoped there could be exceptions made on humanitarian and compassionate grounds.
"If the Premier's call is in relation to medical advice then I would certainly support it," he said.
Don't single out India, travellers say
Mr Rajan, who is also president of the Ethnic Communities Council of WA, lost an uncle in India to the virus this week, and said it was devastating to see COVID-19 ravaging the country.
But he said people like Aishwarya's uncle should be allowed into WA on humanitarian and compassionate grounds.
Aishwarya Aswath died in hospital in Perth after waiting two hours for help.(
Supplied: Family
)
"We are trying to bring her uncle to provide some emotional and mental health support to the family, and we are at the stage where we have applied for a visa and he has booked his tickets, but if this ban comes in he will not be able to come here," he said.
"This is a case of extreme need on the part of an Australian citizen. We need to make sure that we can provide that mental health support."
Read our full coverage of the coronavirus pandemic
Khush Monga, who lives in Perth's southern suburbs, finished her hotel quarantine last night after travelling to India for her father's funeral.
She thought India should not be singled out for any ban.
Expert doctor backs ban
But David Berger, an emergency doctor who has just co-authored a research paper in the Medical Journal of Australia on preventing the airborne transmission of COVID-19, argued there was a case for a temporary travel ban from India.
Dr Berger said the transmission in the Perth quarantine hotel was certainly because of airborne transmission and highlighted the hotel quarantine system could not deal with highly transmissible variants of the virus.
Two people were infected at the Mercure Hotel after the virus travelled from one room to another.(
ABC News: Steve Johns
)
"Given the risk that India currently presents with its highly transmissible, highly infectious variant, which is absolutely out-of-control, I think there is an argument for a very temporary cessation [of travel] from India," he said.
"But we need to revamp hotel quarantine so it is safe."
Mr McGowan also called for pre-testing measures ahead of international flights to be examined.
"Our thoughts are with our friends in India at this difficult time, as well as with our Western Australian Indian community," he said.
"They are trying to put a stop to the third wave, however in Australia we need to do everything we can to keep this double mutant variant away."
India travel ban proposed after coronavirus cases in Perth hotel quarantine prompts concern
By Nicolas Perpitch
Posted 32mminutes ago
Suresh Rajan says there would need to be exceptions to any ban on travel from India.(
ABC News: Rhiannon Shine
)
Share
Key points:
- Two-fifths of recent COVID-19 cases in WA quarantine travelled from India
- The WA Premier will raise the travel ban idea with National Cabinet
- There are fears a ban would unfairly single out people coming from India
Her uncle is not an Australian citizen but is applying under the current system to come to Western Australia.
Mr McGowan will raise the proposed ban with National Cabinet, saying in the past month alone 40 per cent of cases in WA quarantine hotels had recently been in India.
That is up from 11 per cent in the previous month.
India has become the new global epicentre of coronavirus, averaging almost 250,000 new cases each day.
India's health system has struggled heavily under the weight of new infections.(
Reuters: Danish Siddiqui, File Photo
)
Mr McGowan's call came after two people staying at a Perth quarantine hotel contracted the UK strain of COVID-19 from returned overseas travellers from India who were in another room.
Mr Rajan said he broadly supported the suggestion but hoped there could be exceptions made on humanitarian and compassionate grounds.
"If the Premier's call is in relation to medical advice then I would certainly support it," he said.
"I would be happy for example to have these people coming in have a COVID test up to 72 hours before departure, and then again when they arrive."
Don't single out India, travellers say
Mr Rajan, who is also president of the Ethnic Communities Council of WA, lost an uncle in India to the virus this week, and said it was devastating to see COVID-19 ravaging the country.
But he said people like Aishwarya's uncle should be allowed into WA on humanitarian and compassionate grounds.
Aishwarya Aswath died in hospital in Perth after waiting two hours for help.(
Supplied: Family
)
"We are trying to bring her uncle to provide some emotional and mental health support to the family, and we are at the stage where we have applied for a visa and he has booked his tickets, but if this ban comes in he will not be able to come here," he said.
"This is a case of extreme need on the part of an Australian citizen. We need to make sure that we can provide that mental health support."
Read our full coverage of the coronavirus pandemic
Khush Monga, who lives in Perth's southern suburbs, finished her hotel quarantine last night after travelling to India for her father's funeral.
She thought India should not be singled out for any ban.
"Yes, the numbers are high, but the numbers in US are quite high as well. If you want to put a ban and keep Australia safe, put a ban from all around the world, not just India."
Expert doctor backs ban
But David Berger, an emergency doctor who has just co-authored a research paper in the Medical Journal of Australia on preventing the airborne transmission of COVID-19, argued there was a case for a temporary travel ban from India.
Dr Berger said the transmission in the Perth quarantine hotel was certainly because of airborne transmission and highlighted the hotel quarantine system could not deal with highly transmissible variants of the virus.
Two people were infected at the Mercure Hotel after the virus travelled from one room to another.(
ABC News: Steve Johns
)
"Given the risk that India currently presents with its highly transmissible, highly infectious variant, which is absolutely out-of-control, I think there is an argument for a very temporary cessation [of travel] from India," he said.
"But we need to revamp hotel quarantine so it is safe."
Mr McGowan also called for pre-testing measures ahead of international flights to be examined.
"Our thoughts are with our friends in India at this difficult time, as well as with our Western Australian Indian community," he said.
"They are trying to put a stop to the third wave, however in Australia we need to do everything we can to keep this double mutant variant away."
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We still have our Gold Standards!
do we subsidise dorm owners again???????????????????????????/
..how many fucked FDWs????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
telegraph.co.uk
If Sweden’s Covid strategy is such a disaster, why is it still so popular?
Fraser Nelson 15 April 2021 • 9:30pm
6-8 minutes
If lockdown is the greatest social experiment in the world, then Sweden is the control. By keeping everyday life going it has become a global rebel – and to some, a rogue state. When it emerged with the highest Covid levels in Europe earlier this week, it was held up as proof of the terrible price paid for reckless defiance. There is only one missing ingredient to this great cautionary tale: a lack of remorse among Swedes. Even now, with another wave underway, they have no intention of locking down.
The story told of Sweden by those outside of the country is certainly damning. Headlines proclaim that its great experiment has been “abandoned” and that even its king now admits its more relaxed policy led to disaster. Michael Gove talks about how Sweden started well, but ended up with a battery of measures to keep people apart – even to stop them visiting bars. He says this not out of any animus to Sweden but because his critics point to it as the alternative to locking down: what Britain might have done.
So Sweden has ended up as a target in the bizarre culture wars over lockdown, invoked by both sides as an example of either heaven or hell. Anders Tegnell, the state epidemiologist, says it’s too early to judge because it takes years for any post-pandemic picture to settle. But a recent poll showed three-quarters of Swedes have their minds made up, saying Tegnell’s team has handled things either well or very well. So how to reconcile Swedish confidence with the story of Swedish disaster?
For a start, much of what’s said about Sweden is false. The argument that its “herd immunity strategy” failed to stem the virus is fairly easily answered: there never was such a strategy. Tegnell has always said so. He sought to keep virus levels low enough to stop hospitals being overwhelmed – but, also, minimise the collateral damage to people’s lives and health. This would always mean tolerating higher Covid levels than in locked-down countries, as the price of protecting more lives overall.
Another fallacy is the idea of Sweden as a restriction-free utopia. Bars, restaurants and cafes are all socially distanced and must close by 8.30pm. Millions of Swedes have been working from home since all of this started. A rule of eight is in place, albeit with private homes exempt. So there are some laws, but most is guidance.
The recent "personal lockdown" in the region of Uppsala is really no such thing. “It just restates the same non-binding advice we’ve been given since the start of the pandemic,” says a friend of mine, who lives in the city. One of its local politicians promoted the stay-at-home message on his Facebook page then, the next day, published high praise for a Persian restaurant he’d just visited. It wasn’t even a scandal: personal interpretation of guidelines is the norm. Sweden has used its folkvett: common sense. The big question is whether that could have worked here.
If you look only at Covid deaths then Sweden does as badly as Britain, at least in the first wave (not the second, which is very much still ongoing). But factor in collateral damage, and things change. Studies of all age-adjusted deaths – not just deaths from the virus – shows an increase of just 1.5 per cent in Sweden last year: England’s were up 10 per cent. Excess deaths among under-65s actually fell in Sweden but rose sharply here. A lockdown effect, or only a coincidence? It’s hard to tell. But in Sweden, such jigsaw pieces matter: it always was about the whole picture.
Swedish pupils up to the age of 16 still haven’t missed a day of school: this also has a value, albeit one that’s harder to quantify. The Institute for Fiscal Studies guesses £350 billion of lost earnings for British children. But the impact on society – not least on the thousands of pupils who have mysteriously vanished from school rolls – is something you can’t put a price on.
Judging economic damage is easier. By minimising disruption, Sweden’s economy shrank by 3 per cent last year: Britain’s plummeted by 10 per cent. Sweden’s budget, published yesterday, envisages the economy making a full recovery from the pandemic by Christmas. Britain is shooting for mid-2022, even with our vaccine success. The cost of the pandemic (measured by extra public debt) is heading for £7,700 per head in Britain by next year, more than twice as much as in Sweden. Per capita, they (still) have less Covid death.
Sweden’s fast recovery means its furlough scheme has almost run out of takers. At the last count, almost five million Brits were still on furlough, unsure if their job will exist at the end of all this. And while Tegnell didn’t expect a vaccine, its arrival hasn’t changed his lockdown strategy. Or, it seems, ours.
It’s always tough to make meaningful comparisons between different economies, but cancer diagnosis is easier. Fear of a virus keeps people away from hospitals. Swedish breast cancer referrals were down by about 10 per cent in the first ten months of last year. But the British figures are far steeper: a roughly 30 per cent decline in breast cancer referrals, for example. The question – still waiting for a clear answer – is how far lockdowns raise the death toll by discouraging use of basic healthcare. For cancer, heart disease and more.
This isn’t to say that Sweden got it right and Britain got it wrong, just that there is far more to all this than can be summed up on any Covid league table. Tegnell has made plenty of mistakes. He didn’t expect the second wave and some of his admirers have been made to look ridiculous by predicting that the virus would die out by last summer. Only this week he was forced to admit another failure: in the second wave, just as in the first, not enough was done to protect pensioners in care homes.
Stefan Löfven, the Swedish Prime Minister, unwittingly summed up his country’s approach when, after begging people not to hit the high street before Christmas, he was caught doing precisely that himself. Swedes want to control the virus, but also to protect normal life. As does most of the world. What marks Sweden out is an unbroken belief that its method could still be proved right in the end.
If Sweden’s Covid strategy is such a disaster, why is it still so popular?
Fraser Nelson 15 April 2021 • 9:30pm
6-8 minutes
If lockdown is the greatest social experiment in the world, then Sweden is the control. By keeping everyday life going it has become a global rebel – and to some, a rogue state. When it emerged with the highest Covid levels in Europe earlier this week, it was held up as proof of the terrible price paid for reckless defiance. There is only one missing ingredient to this great cautionary tale: a lack of remorse among Swedes. Even now, with another wave underway, they have no intention of locking down.
The story told of Sweden by those outside of the country is certainly damning. Headlines proclaim that its great experiment has been “abandoned” and that even its king now admits its more relaxed policy led to disaster. Michael Gove talks about how Sweden started well, but ended up with a battery of measures to keep people apart – even to stop them visiting bars. He says this not out of any animus to Sweden but because his critics point to it as the alternative to locking down: what Britain might have done.
So Sweden has ended up as a target in the bizarre culture wars over lockdown, invoked by both sides as an example of either heaven or hell. Anders Tegnell, the state epidemiologist, says it’s too early to judge because it takes years for any post-pandemic picture to settle. But a recent poll showed three-quarters of Swedes have their minds made up, saying Tegnell’s team has handled things either well or very well. So how to reconcile Swedish confidence with the story of Swedish disaster?
For a start, much of what’s said about Sweden is false. The argument that its “herd immunity strategy” failed to stem the virus is fairly easily answered: there never was such a strategy. Tegnell has always said so. He sought to keep virus levels low enough to stop hospitals being overwhelmed – but, also, minimise the collateral damage to people’s lives and health. This would always mean tolerating higher Covid levels than in locked-down countries, as the price of protecting more lives overall.
Another fallacy is the idea of Sweden as a restriction-free utopia. Bars, restaurants and cafes are all socially distanced and must close by 8.30pm. Millions of Swedes have been working from home since all of this started. A rule of eight is in place, albeit with private homes exempt. So there are some laws, but most is guidance.
The recent "personal lockdown" in the region of Uppsala is really no such thing. “It just restates the same non-binding advice we’ve been given since the start of the pandemic,” says a friend of mine, who lives in the city. One of its local politicians promoted the stay-at-home message on his Facebook page then, the next day, published high praise for a Persian restaurant he’d just visited. It wasn’t even a scandal: personal interpretation of guidelines is the norm. Sweden has used its folkvett: common sense. The big question is whether that could have worked here.
If you look only at Covid deaths then Sweden does as badly as Britain, at least in the first wave (not the second, which is very much still ongoing). But factor in collateral damage, and things change. Studies of all age-adjusted deaths – not just deaths from the virus – shows an increase of just 1.5 per cent in Sweden last year: England’s were up 10 per cent. Excess deaths among under-65s actually fell in Sweden but rose sharply here. A lockdown effect, or only a coincidence? It’s hard to tell. But in Sweden, such jigsaw pieces matter: it always was about the whole picture.
Swedish pupils up to the age of 16 still haven’t missed a day of school: this also has a value, albeit one that’s harder to quantify. The Institute for Fiscal Studies guesses £350 billion of lost earnings for British children. But the impact on society – not least on the thousands of pupils who have mysteriously vanished from school rolls – is something you can’t put a price on.
Judging economic damage is easier. By minimising disruption, Sweden’s economy shrank by 3 per cent last year: Britain’s plummeted by 10 per cent. Sweden’s budget, published yesterday, envisages the economy making a full recovery from the pandemic by Christmas. Britain is shooting for mid-2022, even with our vaccine success. The cost of the pandemic (measured by extra public debt) is heading for £7,700 per head in Britain by next year, more than twice as much as in Sweden. Per capita, they (still) have less Covid death.
Sweden’s fast recovery means its furlough scheme has almost run out of takers. At the last count, almost five million Brits were still on furlough, unsure if their job will exist at the end of all this. And while Tegnell didn’t expect a vaccine, its arrival hasn’t changed his lockdown strategy. Or, it seems, ours.
It’s always tough to make meaningful comparisons between different economies, but cancer diagnosis is easier. Fear of a virus keeps people away from hospitals. Swedish breast cancer referrals were down by about 10 per cent in the first ten months of last year. But the British figures are far steeper: a roughly 30 per cent decline in breast cancer referrals, for example. The question – still waiting for a clear answer – is how far lockdowns raise the death toll by discouraging use of basic healthcare. For cancer, heart disease and more.
This isn’t to say that Sweden got it right and Britain got it wrong, just that there is far more to all this than can be summed up on any Covid league table. Tegnell has made plenty of mistakes. He didn’t expect the second wave and some of his admirers have been made to look ridiculous by predicting that the virus would die out by last summer. Only this week he was forced to admit another failure: in the second wave, just as in the first, not enough was done to protect pensioners in care homes.
Stefan Löfven, the Swedish Prime Minister, unwittingly summed up his country’s approach when, after begging people not to hit the high street before Christmas, he was caught doing precisely that himself. Swedes want to control the virus, but also to protect normal life. As does most of the world. What marks Sweden out is an unbroken belief that its method could still be proved right in the end.
@kaninabuchaojibye pls remove your post and say sorry for posting fake news
11 or 2 it makes no difference. Covid is not going away.
Yesterday official news say 1 case, not 11 cases. Pls read MOH update
Yesterday dorm 11, Community 1 lah.
Dorm 11 cases were not reported by MOH. I think u can read MOH website
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