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Corruption in SCDF and CNB

Ah Ram, I think you are wrong here. They do take in direct entry (grads) and advertised in the papers. ISD and SID don't. Their officers also undergo "C" course at PA. Not sure where they are training today.

Other than Director and DD posts which featured officers seconded from ISD and the police (David Ng and Aw Kum Cheong from ISD, Chua Cher Yak, Soh Kee Hean, Koh Teck Hin and Wong Choon Mann from the SPF), I don't recall any seconded in the past 10-15 years. CCY had a driver from the police. He was re-employed. There is also another ex-pau there. He spent time with several other entities (MOM, SATS, bank etc) before SKH took him in. He was in SSB when Kee Hean was DD CID.

CPIB Investigation officers or at least the full IO and not the lower ranks trained in house these days. Other than the law courses and the usual firearms courses, their training is a specialized one not the same with the general policeman. Once they completed their local course, they would sent overseas for further training. They are sent to ICAC (HK) and a few others i think. Whether they get to go for further training by FBI or not, i don't know. That was the package i heard, no i'm not with CPIB :D
 
Same cut and paste news from Jakarta Globe.

Singapore. A married IT executive is believed to have had sex with two top-ranking public officers being investigated under the Prevention of Corruption Act.

The 36-year-old woman is assisting the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) in the cases involving the former chiefs of the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) and Central Narcotics Bureau (CNB), Peter Lim Sin Pang and Ng Boon Gay.

Sources told The Straits Times that the two men had been unaware that she had been intimate with both of them. Both officers are married. In Ng’s case, he had known the woman for over three years and they are believed to have been close since early 2009.

She is said to be an employee of an American multinational software company which she joined about six months ago. She was previously a sales director at a Japanese multinational company and it is understood the probe is related to her time at this firm, which provides IT storage solutions for businesses and organizations.

The woman, whose husband is a businessman, is believed to have left her previous job about the time the CPIB investigations began.

In the investigations concerning Ng, it is believed that he signed two IT-related procurement contracts through the normal processes of multiple levels of checks and the normal basis for awarding such tenders: the lowest quote available.

The woman’s previous firm was a subcontractor to two other companies which were awarded these contracts and it is believed the name of the Japanese subcontractor would not have been stated in the tender documents when Ng approved them.

It is believed that the amounts involved in the two contracts totalled around $350,000.

The case surrounding the SCDF’s Lim is also believed to involve the tender and procurement of IT-related products.

Public discussion has been swirling around the identity of the mystery woman connected to the probe since Wednesday, when a New Paper report said a woman IT executive linked to both Lim and Ng was involved in the case.

It is believed that both men admitted during questioning that they had improper relationships with a woman.

Staff of private IT firms aiding in probe

The Straits Times could not contact the woman directly for comments yesterday but she was described by friends and contacts as tall, slim, long-haired and vivacious.

The CPIB said on Wednesday both Ng and Lim, who were arrested separately under the Prevention of Corruption Act, were out on bail and helping in what the bureau called separate investigations.

Ng, 44, was nabbed at his Bukit Batok home on Dec. 19. Lim, 51, was taken in on Jan. 4.

The former government scholarship recipients, who together served more than 40 years in the uniformed services, have been suspended from their duties since Wednesday. They will be replaced from Feb. 1.

Both have started to seek legal advice, and it is understood that Ng’s wife and family are standing by him, offering their full support.

Another six senior SCDF officers, along with employees in private sector IT firms, have been assisting in the probe too.

Ng and Lim were investigated following allegations of “serious personal misconduct,” the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) had said on Tuesday.

A CPIB statement a day later said: “As investigations are still ongoing, it is premature to assume that former commissioner of the SCDF Peter Lim Sin Pang and former director (of) CNB Ng Boon Gay would be ultimately liable for any criminal proceedings.”

The bureau had added that in the case of public servants, and especially where there may be no criminal wrongdoings but serious misconduct, the matter may also be referred to the ministry or agency concerned for appropriate disciplinary action to be taken.

Meanwhile, ST Electronics issued a statement yesterday clarifying that none of its executives had been called up by the CPIB to assist with investigations into the case. The New Paper had yesterday reported that an ST Electronics executive was assisting with CPIB investigations.

Reprinted courtesy of Straits Times Indonesia. To subscribe to Straits Times Indonesia and/or the Jakarta Globe call 021 2553 5055.
 
The recent sacking of CEO Saw and the very positive political reaction is giving a lot of incentive for the two to be harshly treated. I would bet that one or both should be looking at 3 to 6 months.

The chances of them winning if they do not PG is about the same as JBJ winning. If they don't PG and go jail quietly, the sentances should go up to 1 yr or more.

It will be a disciplinary action for Ng, Lim might get jail terms.
 
A police Officer can investigate a CPIB officer for corruption. Its is provided by law. If for example the top 3 are involved or even one of the heads of department, it will likely go to Special Investigation Section of CID. This is to avoid interdepartmental cover-up.

SIS primarily investigates murder but in the past have been tasked with such sensitive cases as MRT trains drivers impending strike, Teh Cheang Wan's suicide, large scale industrial accident etc. Sometime a very senior officer will be tasked to handled the case with SIS or a team providing support. A DSP was charged in court for rape and the IO was a Supt. All senior officers after passing are required to undergo 2 years of investigations so they can handle most cases with ease.

ISD has a special role if an incident or activity falls within national interest. The Official Secrets Case involving Tharman and SPH journalist is very unusual as it was the first time ISD led the investigation and prosecuted the case in open court. It had its funny moments as well. They actually applied for search warrant when it was within their powers to raid SPH. The magistrate and courts panicked and called Ministry and asked for direction.

It was also a mistake. LHL as a young minister was flexing his muscle. It backfired and you will not see ISD hqndling such cases overtly.

Thanks for the Info bro.Now i understand how it works now.
 
LKY is incorruptible! LHL is incorruptible! HC is incorruptible! They are ordained to be incorruptible!

That's why these men and woman hold important positions of trust. It's a triple bonuses for all Singaporeans that they are smart and capable, and willing to sacrifice. Money - no matter how much - cannot buy such people. They come once in a blue or purple moon.


What cock sacrifices are you talking about when they pay themselves millions every year... Ask you this.. How many millions of dollars have the FamiLee accumulated over the years in pay and bonuses..??? I bet its enough to last your whole generation a lifetime.. Of course lah money is not an issue for them...:rolleyes:
 
What cock sacrifices are you talking about when they pay themselves millions every year... Ask you this.. How many millions of dollars have the FamiLee accumulated over the years in pay and bonuses..??? I bet its enough to last your whole generation a lifetime.. Of course lah money is not an issue for them...:rolleyes:

They could have made millions more if they had not been in government. That's the problem with some Singaporeans - you see small picture, short term and short distance.

His younger brother - not in politics - earn much more. Other bright lawyers earn much more on their own than LKY.
 
since when is ST an American multinational firm??

UPDATED (26 Jan, 6pm to include statement from ST Electronics)

Singapore Technologies Electronics (ST Electronics) said on Thursday that none of its staff has been called up by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) to assist with investigations relating to the probe of two former top civil servants.
 
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They could have made millions more if they had not been in government. That's the problem with some Singaporeans - you see small picture, short term and short distance.

His younger brother - not in politics - earn much more. Other bright lawyers earn much more on their own than LKY.

Ok you did a good job for today defending the PAP.. Now you can go see your PAP MP to collect your $50 NTUC supermarket voucher...:rolleyes:
 
Wah Piangz, how come now zha boh become 36yo?? and involve Jit Poon Kia now.
 
Apparently, SKH is of the view that corruption charges will not be meted out for this case.

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1) His younger brother - not in politics - earn much more. 2) Other bright lawyers earn much more on their own than LKY.
1) what if his surname was Sito, Ng, Tan, Cheng or something else?
2) yeah you right, bright lawyers _ those not so bright have to earn it other ways
 
They could have made millions more if they had not been in government. That's the problem with some Singaporeans - you see small picture, short term and short distance.

His younger brother - not in politics - earn much more. Other bright lawyers earn much more on their own than LKY.

hahaha, this is the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
 
Not to worry. Your little brother will remain intact and attached for a long time to come!

LKY is incorruptible! LHL is incorruptible! HC is incorruptible! They are ordained to be incorruptible!

That's why these men and woman hold important positions of trust. It's a triple bonuses for all Singaporeans that they are smart and capable, and willing to sacrifice. Money - no matter how much - cannot buy such people. They come once in a blue or purple moon.


Kan ni na beh phua chee bye! Chee bye kia, you still got a couple of unanswered questions on your previous posts, go answer them before you join in new discussions spreading your bullshit! Kan ni na bu lao chee bye!:oIo::oIo::oIo:
 
Pecking order wise, this is the hierarchy and reflects functional importance, skills set and complexity of the Job. PSC also follows these to recruit senior officers.

ISD
SPF
ICA
CNB
Prisons
SCDF

Very much reflected by the grade, quality and posting of Heads and Sr Officers. CNB interstingly has access to specific databases second only to ISD because of the organised nature of drug lords.


Compared to above, CPIB and SID (Security & Intelligence Division) formerly known as ESD (External Security Division) are premier agencies and they enjoy a higher salary scale.
 
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