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karmabear

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....they might as well pack up and leave for Malaysia as they will have no place in Singapore society. Life will only get a lot more difficult for them....If the Malays have to form their own party and make their own rules, you can be rest assured the 25% Malay vote will no longer be there for the Chinese community... Without the Malay vote it is unlikely the opposition party can win Aljunied GRC unless WP wins at least 7 out of 10 Chinese votes. You think this is possible? -

I just took snippets from your reply, hope you don't mind. And please bear in mind i am really asking out of my own ignorance. But the questions I pose is sincere and I hope we can have some reasonable discussion on this.

a) Is it not true that more and more malays are choosing to move across the causeway? This is already happening and UNDER PAP rule.

b) Malays need their own party period. Stop whoring that 25% vote to the highest bidder, Its bad for the community. How does hiding in the mosque and taking PHD in arabic/islamic studies advance the economic well being of the malays? I chose CIMB as an example because its an amazing achievement. And if thats possible, why not more? Once again, if Datuk Seri Nazir Razak can do it, why not other malays?

c) Whether it is PAP or WP forming the rules, its someone else forming the rules FOR you. And it may not be rules you like. Hence, you got to come out of the mosque and start exerting that 25% vote. Start demanding for changes, reasonable posts in government and civil service. You may not get it this election but you have to start asking for things. Why is it unreasonable for a malay to be Chief of Army? Think about it. Because they might betray Singapore to other countries like Malaysia and Indonesia? If that perception stays (and it will stay regardless of PAP dominance or not), the Malay community in Singapore will forever be marginalised and you will never get anywhere in Singapore EXCEPT more handouts (big if - see point D). Nobody is going to change that perception for you. You got to go out there and do it.

d) And the cold reality is that the malay vote will be less and less significant as more pinoy, ah neh, ah tiong, myanmese, viets etc come in. And in time to come, the handouts get less and less. Classic examples are the red indians of america and the aborigines in australia. Do they get handouts? Yes. Do they play a significant part in the economy? Absolutely not. hence, are you aiming to be the orang asli equivalent in Singapore?

Anyway, i ranted a bit too long but i hope it makes sense.
 

Debonerman

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Talking about smaller and smaller handouts, until 5 or more years ago, I have never heard of a Malay family's HDB flat being repossessed and I am not talking about by banks but the HDB itself.

I am not talking bull here. If only the HDB can rent "beach front property to those chased out."

I had always thought that was the golden rule, the PAP's only concession to the Tanah Melayu wet dream.

Well they as long as they are still happy to wake up and find that the sperm had been deposited into their underwear and not the real thing, so be it.
 

Windsor

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"Anyway, i ranted a bit too long but i hope it makes sense. "

It makes sense if your discussion is with rationale people. With someone like him whose sirens starts wailing if he sees anything racial, you can argue til the cows come home and even then the topic that you are talking about is no longer the subject. I have always read his comments and knew what it will be like so best you follow my example and put him on "Ignore." He will only bring you down to his level.
 

kingrant

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Is the Clan Association not meddling in politics? If so, then it miust register as a political organisation or society.
 

allanlee

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Is the Clan Association not meddling in politics? If so, then it miust register as a political organisation or society.

No. 1 MafiaLEE came into power with the help of the Hakka clan associations....... their clansmen "persuaded" many chinese in the chinatown area to give him their votes or faced the consequences.... and they have supported each other throughout the years until a couple of years ago when the clan elders became disillusioned with No. 1 MafiaLEE and broke ranks with the MIWs...... the clan's secretive HST unit specially formed to do the dirty work of the MIWs was disbanded...... so do not fear the clans...... they are not on the side of the MIWs now.
 
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rusty

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Every story must have an ending.

So what is LKY going to do?

Sue her?

Under what act and chapter?

Those clanky stuffs are about losing face or saving face.

Any act on face saving?
 

Windsor

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Every story must have an ending.

So what is LKY going to do?

Sue her?

Under what act and chapter?

Those clanky stuffs are about losing face or saving face.

Any act on face saving?

They are waiting for the elections to be over as at this stage, they are standing on shaky ground. Pretty unusual for PAP as this is one of their greatest challenge and most probably the last if the win handsomely. There will not be another election like this, they will make sure of that.
 
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