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Clan Leaders trying to smother 24 yr old heroine Nicole Seah

Debonerman

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Read the first post in the thread and pay particular attention to this paragraph copied below:

"..the Malay Community Leaders have accepted MM's subsequent positive response to the Community's feedback and reaction. Why is Nicole ressurecting this episode? Just to gain more political mileage at the cost of national harmony? She is playing with fire in this instance even as she stands being badly burnt."


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You make me laugh until my cock stand. Your Malay leadership? Please lah, I have teh with Malays every night!
 

yellow_people

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this guy is crazy one lah. he dun like malay, chinese and ah neh. above all, i think he hates himself the most. very bitter man. a lot of anger. i dunno maybe he accidentally cut away his own cock while having too much beer or what. :biggrin:

Be that as it may, at least I stay true to form and do not change stripe whatever the circumstances may be. It is despicable playing nice to the Malay and Indian voter when their votes are needed during election and stereotyping them when they are not needed.

Really then, what is the difference between you and the PAP?


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patrickv

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Be that as it may, at least I stay true to form and do not change stripe whatever the circumstances may be. It is despicable playing nice to the Malay and Indian voter when their votes are needed during election and stereotyping them when they are not needed.

Really then, what is the difference between you and the PAP?


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CB ah neh,

fuck u lah. kill the common enemy first then talk. common enemy is pap n FT ok.

fuck u :oIo::oIo:

u want borrow how much from me? faster say lah. tui.
 
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yellow_people

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You are really a hostile person. You like to take it horse style, dog style any style. Anyway you are on my ignore list.

Just pointing out the facts, none of which you have disputed thus far apart from name-calling. If you can't deal with it, its not my problem.


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yellow_people

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CB ah neh,

fuck u lah. kill the common enemy first then talk. common enemy is pap n FT ok.

fuck u :oIo::oIo:

u want borrow how much from me? faster say lah. tui.

You see this is the problem - How can one tell the enemy apart when both PAP and Opposition supporters like you behave in the EXACT same manner?


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Debonerman

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Be that as it may, at least I stay true to form and do not change stripe whatever the circumstances may be. It is despicable playing nice to the Malay and Indian voter when their votes are needed during election and stereotyping them when they are not needed.

Really then, what is the difference between you and the PAP?

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If I have some intelligence, I will choose the one who fuck me less. PAP Malay sub ministry ie Malay leadership chose PAP. The people they are supposed to lead only see them during Halal wayangs.
 

yellow_people

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If I have some intelligence, I will choose the one who fuck me less. PAP Malay sub ministry ie Malay leadership chose PAP. The people they are supposed to lead only see them during Halal wayangs.

There is a famous saying - "Sometimes, it is better the DEVIL you know".


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patrickv

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Just pointing out the facts, none of which you have disputed thus far apart from name-calling. If you can deal with it, its not my problem.


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simi lancheow fact? the fact we can all see here is that u are a very bitter ah neh. dun even pretend to be malay ok.
 

Debonerman

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There is a famous saying - "Sometimes, it is better the DEVIL you know".


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I have no problem with that. You PAP people can tell the Malays that by sending each and everyone of them a registered personal letter telling them it is so. Just wait for PAP handouts. Tell them Lee Kuan Yew have them in his thoughts 24/7.
 

yellow_people

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simi lancheow fact? the fact we can all see here is that u are a very bitter ah neh. dun even pretend to be malay ok.

Nicole Seah could have apologized to the Malay community on behalf of her own party, NSP, whose Secretary-General, Goh Meng Seng made the following remarks you see in my signature. Is this simple enough for you to understand?


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Debonerman

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Nicole Seah could have apologized to the Malay community on behalf of her own party, NSP, whose Secretary-General, Goh Meng Seng made the following remarks you see in my signature. Is this simple enough for you to understand?


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So Goh Meng Seng is a goofball. Guess NSP did not have an English language major grad or equivalent to help vet his thoughts prior to 27/10/10.
 

karmabear

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yellow_people, the problem with the Malay community is they are waiting. Waiting for PAP to bring them back on level with the Chinese and Indians. Waiting for the opposition to come up with a better alternative. The truth is you can wait long long. And this is not a problem with PAP or opposition. It is the problem of the Malays. You don't wait. Thats bullshit. You take. Stand up as a community and say this is what we want for the Malays. You want my support, this is my fee. Better yet, form a strong party and make your own rules. CIMB is doing very well as a bank and redefining the rules within the Asean region. Why can't this spirit transfer over to politics across the causeway?

Whether or not the opposition can do more for the Malays remain to be seen. But it is a great opportunity to reset the rules of engagement. Right now, after how many decades of PAP rule, are the Malays really better off? Yes, you don't get tickets parking outside the mosque but you don't get to hold meaningful posts in the army or government either. How does that make sense when the country is next to Malaysia and Indonesia? You have to ask the MIW. But its not up to the chinese or indians to define the way forward for malays. They have to do it themselves, which is hard to do after so many years of PAP crack.
 
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yellow_people

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yellow_people, the problem with the Malay community is they are waiting. Waiting for PAP to bring them back on level with the Chinese and Indians. Waiting for the opposition to come up with a better alternative. The truth is you can wait long long. And this is not a problem with PAP or opposition. It is the problem of the Malays. You don't wait. Thats bullshit. You take. Stand up as a community and say this is what we want for the Malays. You want my support, this is my fee. Better yet, form a strong party and make your own rules.

Ah, the cultural-deficit theory. The Malay is stupid and lazy - that is their problem.

This is the kind of Chinese world-view the Malay voter is afraid of. That is why they have all gone from Opposition supporters to PAP supporters as they know if the Opposition mainstream Chinese party like Worker's Party, ever get a grip on power, they might as well pack up and leave for Malaysia as they will have no place in Singapore society. Life will only get a lot more difficult for them.

Why do you think an opposition stronghold like Kaki Bukit has gone from an Opposition stronghold (Eunos GRC in 1988) to a PAP stronghold to counter the Chinese voters in Aljunied GRC in 2011? Is this why Low Thia Khiang keeps grousing about gerrymander in Aljunied daily?

If the Malays have to form their own party and make their own rules, you can be rest assured the 25% Malay vote will no longer be there for the Chinese community.

Without the Malay vote it is unlikely the opposition party can win Aljunied GRC unless WP wins at least 7 out of 10 Chinese votes. You think this is possible?
And this is without factoring in the new citizen vote.



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Porfirio Rubirosa

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pasted fm Catherine lim's blog...

Letter to ST: MM Lee’s ‘apology’ sends mixed, ambiguous signals
On 8 March I wrote the following letter to the Straits Times Forum, on a recent political issue which I had been following with interest and concern. Since it has not been published, I am putting it on my site, to share my personal views with readers.


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I refer to the report ‘Malay integration: MM stands corrected,’ (The Straits Times, Tuesday March 8, 2011)

As a long-time observer of the extraordinary impact that MM has on the Singapore political scene, I would like to comment on his change of position with regard to the failure of the Malay community to integrate with the rest of the society.

The shift bears all the marks of a constrained rather than a spontaneous change of mind and heart. Firstly, the terse statement ‘I stand corrected’ is far short of a genuine apology and may even exacerbate rather than assuage hurt feelings. Secondly, the explanation of an oversight of the community’s successful efforts at integration in the last 2 years, is unconvincing, given MM’s sharp, meticulous thinking and observation. Thirdly, the statement, coming so long after the comments (first reported in the Straits Times on 3 January, 2011) and presumably very soon before the coming general elections, smacks of an opportunistic move.

It is tempting to conclude that this reversal of position is a consensus decision of the PAP government, rather than a conviction decision by MM himself.

Singaporeans like myself, who admire MM for the boldness of his convictions even if we disagree with them, would have preferred to see him maintain his unique role of telling hard truths and taking responsibility for them, rather than give the impression of taking a position so at odds with his strong personality and forthright style.

That way, we are not confused by the sending out of mixed signals.


You want to know what is the epitome of arrogance? Claiming to state a "Hard Truth" about social/religious integration and then turning around and saying " I stand corrected" without an inkling of remorse or regret over the original comment.
 

tanwahtiu

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Who is Ho Chiu Cheng to ask Nicole to apoligize? Then LHL, LKY and GCT shd aplogize to ex-Hillview Voters for bull doze and dispersed the voters. Hillview voter voted for upgrading not SER... PAP go eat shit...



Who is this Ho Cheow Seng? He is which clan? Dragon clan or Phoenix clan?
 

patrickv

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Nicole Seah could have apologized to the Malay community on behalf of her own party, NSP, whose Secretary-General, Goh Meng Seng made the following remarks you see in my signature. Is this simple enough for you to understand?


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so u want to vote for pap becos they give u grow n share package to buy your beer n ciggies. just say so lah CB ah neh. dun shy ok.
 

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I can't believe this is happening in our First World democracy. The letter smells as if it had been written by the MM's office and handed over to Ho to sign on his behalf.

Mr Ho, who are you to speak on behalf of me and my frens, relatives and family? It is people like Ho who are playing with fire and race politics.

Mr Ho, if Nicole has a gun, she'll not be shooting her foot, but you.
 

kingrant

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Many forumers here are missing the point, just as that nincompoop Ho.

What Nicole Seah did was symbolic and in satire. By doing a proxy, she was in fact telling the old Man that was the way an apology should sound like.
 
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