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Citizens continue to be screwed in the last 5 years with the inflow of foreigners taking over their jobs. Can you afford another 5 years?

Is it still rape if you have fallen in love with the rapist? :wink:
 
If pap is out from election.will this change?

The PAP balls shrank after they lost aljunied GRC and thus drastically reduced the inflow of foreign migrants and workers.

If not for such timely reminders from the citizenry they would have flooded the country with foreigners.

So the answer is a resounding "YES!" to your question.
 
Even the bangla n ah nehs get treated better than singkies. Anyway singkies get the gahmen they vote for.

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Mr Narayan Kumar, 42, an Indian national who works for local construction firm CHH Construction System, has been moved to a hotel, and gets S$20 to S$30 a day to cover food delivered to the hotel.
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SINGAPORE — One construction firm boss is now paying up to S$630 a week for foreign worker Narayan Kumar to stay at a hotel after private lodgings provided by the firm were deemed too crowded by the authorities. Stay-home orders for foreign workers who are not staying at dormitories, such as Mr Kumar, have been extended by two weeks until May 18.

Mr Nelson Tee, managing director of CHH Construction System, told TODAY that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) had on Thursday decided that Mr Kumar, 42 — an S Pass holder — was living at a private residence that was “slightly overcrowded”.

Mr Tee, 66, whose business involves building landed residential properties, and installing security systems, has 80 foreign workers in all. Of those, 40 are accommodated in dormitories. The other 39 are all in private residences.

Mr Kumar, an Indian national, who had shared the private residence with workers from other firms, will now be staying at the Harbour Ville Hotel, in Hamilton Rd, in the Lavender area. The cost is S$60 per night for the room with another S$20 to S$30 per day to cover food that is delivered to the hotel.

“We are negotiating for a better room rate for the extended period,” Mr Tee said.

Mr Tee said he had been paying S$500 per month for Mr Kumar to stay in a room of his own in the private residence shared with the other foreign workers.

“My staff (member) has actually been staying in a single room by himself, but the entire unit was overcrowded, (so) I asked him to move out temporarily just to satisfy the MOM’s call,” he said.

“To me, I must ensure (that Mr Kumar) stays safe. This is the priority.”

Other employers in the construction sector said that they had anticipated the extension of stay-home notices for their foreign workers until May 18, given that there were still a handful of cases among their workers each day. The decision was announced on Friday in a joint statement by MOM, the Ministry of Health (MOH) and the Building and Construction Authority.

MOH said on its website on Saturday that over the past week, there have been an average of 14 confirmed cases per day among work permit holders residing outside dormitories, down from 25 per day the week before.

The stay-home notice, imposed last month to protect employers and workers from further risk of Covid-19 transmission at construction worksites, was originally slated to end on May 4.

This applies to work permit holders and S Pass holders in the construction sector who do not live in purpose-built dorms. They could be living in temporary quarters for construction workers, factory-converted dormitories or private residential premises, for instance.

The employers said that the needs of the workers on stay-home notice — such as food and mental wellness — will be met during this period. They also said they were not surprised by the extension of the stay-home-notice period.

“The extension was quite expected, considering there are still (positive Covid-19) cases being reported (outside of dormitories),” said Mr Johnny Lim, executive director of Teambuild Engineering & Construction.

Of Mr Lim’s 75 workers living outside of dorms, most rely on food deliveries which they pay for out of their own pockets. Some have even stocked up on ingredients and do their own cooking. Only “one or two” needed help, he said.

Besides the food situation, the mental health of the workers also needs to be addressed, the employers said.


A Teambuild Engineering & Construction staff member handing supplies to a foreign worker housed at temporary quarters for construction workers. Photo: Johnny Lim

Mr Kenneth Loo, executive director of Straits Construction Singapore, said that he manages the “mental health and expectations” of his workers by constantly checking up on them over video calls. He will continue doing this over the next two weeks.

Mr Loo said that his main concern during this period is that his firm’s 1,000 workers living outside of dorms are mentally and physically healthy so that “they will be well when things go back to normal”.

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While employers have taken the extended stay-home notice in their stride, some had encountered some challenges when the tighter measures were announced.

On April 11, MOM announced that employers must continue to pay the salaries of foreign workers during this period, and had to do so electronically.

On April 13, MOM said in an advisory that employers must keep work pass holders in their residences as much as possible. Employers should also cater meals to their workers as well as ensure they take their temperature twice daily, the advisory said.

Mr Loo said that the preparation time given to the employers to implement the changes was too short. “Maybe if more time was permitted, there will be less anxiety,” he said.

Agreeing, Mr Rajan Krishnan, chief executive officer of civil engineering firm KTC Group, said that his company “had to keep acting fast” to deal with the changes. He held three to four meetings a day “to make sure instructions are followed”.

Many employers were left struggling to adjust to such back-to-back changes.

Mr Akbar Kader, managing director of Nan Guan Construction, said employers like himself were “very frustrated” at the sudden need to create bank accounts, as he had previously relied on cash payments.

He found that the banks were “swamped” with other employers doing the same given the tight deadlines.

The lack of physical presence was an issue, with interactions done over messaging apps or video calls not as effective as face to face communication, he said.

In addressing these concerns, Manpower Minister Josephine Teo said in a Facebook post on April 25 that MOM had to “react quickly by pushing out new and updated guidelines”.

“If we act fast, we’re aware there’s little time for employers to adjust. If we act too slowly, there is risk of wider transmission. This is the difficult trade-off,” she said.

In her post, she also said that electronic payments were implemented so that salaries can still be provided during the lockdown.

“This is also helpful in preventing salary disputes down the road.”
 
This problem looks really different from the perspective of an employer and employee. As an employer myself, I can tell you that the gahment is doing its best to get us to employ locals. Every application for an overseas employee has to get pass stringent tests and enquiries of whether we had tried to get local people to do the job in the first place. Many employers have been penalized if they have shown that they didn't try hard enough to employ locals. So you cannot blame the gahment for doing its part.

The problem lies in local sinkees with their poor work attitude and skills. I have seen some sinkees coming in and asking for employment with the attitude like I owe them something. They ask for the sky but ultimately cannot perform. Of course, not all of them are like that. I am only speaking generally. On the other hand, although I hate to say this, but there are many qualified people from overseas who are humble, have good attitude, don't ask much and can do a good job. So as an employer, which will you choose? Many CMI locals will be beating their chest and howling at local job losses, when what they should be doing is look in the mirror and ask themselves this: "Am I good enough to be employable?"

Let me use the analogy of football. The gahment is like the FA of a country. They want to see the football standards go up, so they allow foreign players in to their domestic league. The clubs are like the companies. They will want to win honours by getting the best players in. They don't care about foreign or local players, as long as they are good players willing to win things for the club. Sinkees are like local players. Some are good and can make it playing in the league, some really cannot make it but keep harping on about inequality and discrimination. Like that how?




We are talking about high-grade high-paying PMET jobs, like in bankng and IT.

You are most probably a small-time sinkie slave driver employing a handful of foreign slaves in your sweatshop.

LOL let me tell you an analogy of my own.

We are talking english premier league soccer here, no one is interested in your non-league football! Fuck off! :FU:
 
We are talking about high-grade high-paying PMET jobs, like in bankng and IT.

You are most probably a small-time sinkie slave driver employing a handful of foreign slaves in your sweatshop.

LOL let me tell you an analogy of my own.

We are talking english premier league soccer here, no one is interested in your non-league football! Fuck off! :FU:

You are blaming everything MIW aka PAP.

PAP (its members) did not born out from a rock like Sun Wu Kong.

They are also from the masses (or course with each generation, more and more natural aristocrats dominate).

Same with Towkays and SME bosses.

Its a vicious cycle with locals who mostly lack real talents, guts and grit (latter is really key to success), hence rely on the brick and motar business models, obsolete but proven status quos, hence becoming the economy and businesss culture evolve tightly round rent seeking activities.

Hence they want the following:
1. Instant success.
2. Cheap cheap, only I can make $$$.
3. Monopolies, rest can go to hell.
 
Why only blame the PAP?

It is the companies who hire the foreigners. PAP provides the programs for them to do so.

All this slamming DBS. But are sinkies boycotting DBS? Nope. I know people will say all the banks are like that.

This whole idea of hiring foreigners because they are cheaper and just as good if not better can be transferred to those who hire FDW maids. Same thing.

If you have a maid at home who isn't singaporean then dont criticize foreign worker policy.
 
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