CCP says 'weak' Australia would be first hit in a war over Taiwan

[winners]

Tell the Tiongs to go and fuck themselves. Why are they saying all this now is because they have already felt the heat and is being threatened by all these foreign military exercises, what's more with the UK fleet now on its way there. When you are already being threatened, what else can you do except to further deceive yourself by declaring that you are ever ready to defeat your enemies and with confirmed victory. What a piece of crap?

 

[blackmondy]

A fucking delusional army with no war experience over 70 years still dare criticize others ?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Tell the Tiongs to go and fuck themselves. Why are they saying all this now is because they have already felt the heat and is being threatened by all these foreign military exercises, what's more with the UK fleet now on its way there. When you are already being threatened, what else can you do except to further deceive yourself by declaring that you are ever ready to defeat your enemies and with confirmed victory. What a piece of crap?

The UK fleet? Wats tat? Surely the ChiCons have more military assets than that..

HMS Queen Elizabeth: Why is a UK aircraft carrier going on a world tour?​

By Jonathan Beale
Defence correspondent, BBC News
Published4 days ago
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Britain is about to embark on a world tour - in the shape of the Royal Navy's aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth, accompanied by a fleet of warships.
The Royal Navy says it will be the most powerful UK naval deployment in a generation.
The government sees the fleet, named the Carrier Strike Group, as a potent symbol of "Global Britain" - and as proof of Boris Johnson's promise to restore the Royal Navy as Europe's foremost naval power and end what he called an "era of retreat".
The prime minister spent this morning on board HMS Queen Elizabeth in Portsmouth naval base, ahead of its maiden operational deployment.
But is this world tour more than a symbol of national virility or a flag-waving exercise?
And what's the point of sailing halfway across the world?
Over the next 28 weeks the Carrier Strike Group will cover 26,000 miles - further than the distance around the world at the equator.

image caption F-35B Lightning aircraft returning to HMS Queen Elizabeth during a training exercise
HMS Queen Elizabeth will first sail into the Mediterranean. From there, she is planning to launch her F-35 jets to conduct airstrikes over Iraq against the group known as Islamic State.
It would be the carrier's first combat operation - even though the RAF has been doing the same mission for the past seven years from its land base on Cyprus.
Perhaps more controversial is the decision to then go east. The strike group will sail through the Suez Canal, out to the Indian Ocean and on to the Philippine Sea.
HMS Queen Elizabeth is scheduled to make a number of port stops along way - including Oman, Singapore, South Korea and Japan.
Like the US, Britain is responding to the rise of China. But unlike America, Britain has less influence and fewer resources to match.
For UK foreign policy it means a more modest "tilt" to Asia rather than the US "pivot".

What's in the Carrier Strike Group?​

HMS Queen Elizabeth will be accompanied by two Royal Navy Frigates, two Destroyers, two supply ships and - beneath the surface - an Astute Class Submarine.
An American Navy Destroyer and a Dutch Frigate will be part of the strike group.
There'll also be more American jets on board the carrier: 10 US Marine Corps F-35s compared to the Britain's eight.
The government insists the addition of allies is a sign of strength rather than weakness. But it is also an indication that Britain's Armed Forces are now smaller and can do less on their own.
media captionWatch: What's it like on board HMS Queen Elizabeth?

The strike group will sail through the South China Sea where China has been expanding its claim to territorial waters.
But Defence Secretary Ben Wallace insists Britain is not looking for a "confrontation". Instead, he says the carrier group will exercise its right to freedom of navigation.
So do not expect a repeat of what happened in 2018 when another Royal Navy Warship, HMS Albion, deliberately sailed close to the disputed Paracel Islands, prompting an angry response from Beijing.

image caption The prime minister visited HMS Queen Elizabeth in Portsmouth earlier
These sensitivities highlight ambiguities in Britain's policy towards China. The British government says it still wants a constructive relationship - not least on trade.
Two former defence chiefs have questioned the decision to send the strike group east.
Lord Nicholas Houghton recently told MPs that "it was not necessarily the best way of seeking an accommodation" with Beijing, while Lord David Richards said Britain should be focusing its attention closer to home "on Nato and the Euro-Atlantic area".

Giant floating trade mission​

But the deployment has as much to do with boosting trade and strengthening diplomatic ties in the region.
At sea it'll be conducting military exercises with allies, including Japan, Australia and the US. During her port visits, HMS Queen Elizabeth will become a giant floating trade and diplomatic mission.
In the words of the head of the Royal Navy, Admiral Tony Radakin: "Navies follow trade and trade follows navies."
He says this deployment shows the Navy is "flying the flag for Britain and carrying forward the prime minister's vision" of a "Global Britain".

'Diplomatic theatre'​

Some argue there might have been better ways of sending a strong message to China.
Dr Peter Roberts, director of military sciences at RUSI, a defence and security think tank, says that instead of what he calls "a predictable, long and slow deployment", the Royal Navy could have dispatched two of its hunter-killer submarines.
If they set off north, under the Arctic ice, and then popped up in the Pacific, he suggests, that would have had a greater impact on challenging both Russian and Chinese behaviour.
The former national security adviser, Lord Peter Ricketts, believes it still makes sense to send the carrier east as a "symbol of working closely with allies".
This is not least to get a return on the significant investment in the Royal Navy's two new aircraft carriers. But, he adds, "this is a piece of diplomatic theatre, not a military strategy".

 

[winners]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-hms-queen-elizabeth-to-indo-pacific-14710974

When you have so many nations being against what the fucking Tiongs are doing, how do you think the Tiongs will feel? Definitely their balls will shrink.

And by the way, Mediacorp's Otelli Edwards is truly "BIG".

 

[glockman]

Tell the Tiongs to go and fuck themselves. Why are they saying all this now is because they have already felt the heat and is being threatened by all these foreign military exercises, what's more with the UK fleet now on its way there. When you are already being threatened, what else can you do except to further deceive yourself by declaring that you are ever ready to defeat your enemies and with confirmed victory. What a piece of crap?

A fucking delusional army with no war experience over 70 years still dare criticize others ?

Nobody in our part of the world wants a war, except the CCP. They know their hostile moves and aggressive behaviour would not be tolerated, but yet they persist. Pre-emptive surgical strikes on the leadership of the CCP and military would be ideal, then they'll not have the stomach to carry on. Fucking commies are leading China down the path of self-destruction.

 

[LordElrond]

The issue is when? I have been hearing this for decades

Never?

 

[LordElrond]

Australia is fucked. Chinese just need to pull their funds out of Australian real estate, bring their students home, Australia will suck XJP cock to beg for money. Anyone who works in international business can tell you Australia is a beggar.

 

[blackmondy]

Nobody in our part of the world wants a war, except the CCP. They know their hostile moves and aggressive behaviour would not be tolerated, but yet they persist. Pre-emptive surgical strikes on the leadership of the CCP and military would be ideal, then they'll not have the stomach to carry on. Fucking commies are leading China down the path of self-destruction.

CCPee is rallying Russia in nuclear technology now. They want their commie mentor's help in going against the US.
If China has no qualms leaking a deadly virus worldwide, it will have no qualms in leaking nuclear radiation worldwide either.

 

[LaoTze]

China not worried about 12 USA carriers!

What the fuck will China worry about one cheebye UK carrier?

 

[blackmondy]

China not worried about 12 USA carriers!

What the fuck will China worry about one cheebye UK carrier?

Then you go tell China to start war lah ! Talk cock for what ? Your tiong aircraft carrier can't even function properly and can only fart black smoke !

 

[mojito]

China not worried about 12 USA carriers!

What the fuck will China worry about one cheebye UK carrier?

See how meekly the chicoms hide away their used toy Liaoning when the big boys show off their new toys?

 

[mojito]

China not worried about 12 USA carriers!

What the fuck will China worry about one cheebye UK carrier?

Even Japan had a dozen carriers before WWII all the pathetic chicoms have for show is one second hand junk!

 

[glockman]

CCPee is rallying Russia in nuclear technology now. They want their commie mentor's help in going against the US.
If China has no qualms leaking a deadly virus worldwide, it will have no qualms in leaking nuclear radiation worldwide either.

Even the ruskies are wary of the CCP chinks.

The South China Sea, a fault line in China-Russia relations?​

One area of subdued contention in Russia-China relations that is seldom talked about is the South China Sea dispute. But that is changing now as China becomes more assertive in pressing its jurisdictional claims within the nine-dash line. Russia now finds itself on the receiving end of some of that assertiveness.

Russia has tried to maintain a neutral stance towards the South China Sea dispute. It does not take a position on the various parties’ territorial claims. More tellingly, however, Moscow does not recognise China’s nine-dash line, as this would undermine Rosneft’s position in Vietnam and severely weaken its own EEZ claims in the resource-rich Arctic.

So what can Russia do to protect its interests in the South China Sea?

The Kremlin still has a few cards up its sleeve though. China buys a lot of defence equipment from Russia, and Moscow could cut off supplies of spare parts, munitions and technology upgrades if China ramped up the pressure over Rosneft’s activities. Or it could speed up arms deliveries to two of China’s rivals, India and Vietnam.

https://www.iseas.edu.sg/media/comm...a-sea-a-fault-line-in-china-russia-relations/

 

[glockman]

Even Japan had a dozen carriers before WWII all the pathetic chicoms have for show is one second hand junk!

It'll be heart-breaking to see the very many clueless chinks who will be killed once war against the CCP starts. Heart breaking because all those daft chinks were misguided and lied to by a heartless and ruthless regime. Their deaths will be senseless and needless.

Hence, I advocate surgical strikes on the CCP and their military leadership.

 

[sleaguepunter]

A fucking delusional army with no war experience over 70 years still dare criticize others ?

PLA fought a low intensity war against Vietnam along the borders for ten years from 1978-1988. Many PLA battalions were rotated over the ten years. Many of PLA current military regions commanders and chief of staff were either company or battalion commander during that period. The war was use by Deng to spot good officers and root out the jialiaobee.

 

[blackmondy]

PLA fought a low intensity war against Vietnam along the borders for ten years from 1978-1988. Many PLA battalions were rotated over the ten years. Many of PLA current military regions commanders and chief of staff were either company or battalion commander during that period. The war was use by Deng to spot good officers and root out the jialiaobee.

But, but but....are their navy and air-force proven in battle ? If they are as strong as they claimed, why not just invade Taiwan instead of just flying sorties taunting Taiwan ?

 

[jw5]

But, but but....are their navy and air-force proven in battle ? If they are as strong as they claimed, why not just invade Taiwan instead of just flying sorties taunting Taiwan ?

CCPee and PAPee are similar, in that they are no good, but they want to appear to the world to be good.

 

[blackmondy]

CCPee and PAPee are similar, in that they are no good, but they want to appear to the world to be good.

Totalitarian assholes all behave the same pattern. They need to constantly blast their trumpet in order to mask their inferiority complex.

 

[sleaguepunter]

But, but but....are their navy and air-force proven in battle ? If they are as strong as they claimed, why not just invade Taiwan instead of just flying sorties taunting Taiwan ?

It take time to train a blue water fleet. USN and Japanese navy have over 100 years of experience and traditions. Tactics and Doctrines take years if not decades to develop and refine.
As early as 20 years ago, the main fighters used by PLAAF were still the Chinese modified MiG 21. I bet there still a bunch of them in the reserve fleet. The current flights around Taiwan is to accumulate experience and also gauge ROC Air Force readiness and discipline and at same time spot patterns in ROC SOP. The sorties are not Taunting but probing for gaps in ROC air defense systems. If ROC air defense or fighter light up their radars, it will the copy down and then can develop electronic equipment to defeat it. Although ROC Air Force equipments are obselete, the training are still superb.
modern equipment match with lousy personnel are still worse than old equipment operated by well trained operators.
All these so call provocative measures are for a purpose. No matter what, the only means to invade by sea and air so whoever have sea and air superiority will settle the issue.

 

[blackmondy]

It take time to train a blue water fleet. USN and Japanese navy have over 100 years of experience and traditions. Tactics and Doctrines take years if not decades to develop and refine.
As early as 20 years ago, the main fighters used by PLAAF were still the Chinese modified MiG 21. I bet there still a bunch of them in the reserve fleet. The current flights around Taiwan is to accumulate experience and also gauge ROC Air Force readiness and discipline and at same time spot patterns in ROC SOP. The sorties are not Taunting but probing for gaps in ROC air defense systems. If ROC air defense or fighter light up their radars, it will the copy down and then can develop electronic equipment to defeat it. Although ROC Air Force equipments are obselete, the training are still superb.
modern equipment match with lousy personnel are still worse than old equipment operated by well trained operators.
All these so call provocative measures are for a purpose. No matter what, the only means to invade by sea and air so whoever have sea and air superiority will settle the issue.

It take time to train a blue water fleet. USN and Japanese navy have over 100 years of experience and traditions. Tactics and Doctrines take years if not decades to develop and refine.
As early as 20 years ago, the main fighters used by PLAAF were still the Chinese modified MiG 21. I bet there still a bunch of them in the reserve fleet. The current flights around Taiwan is to accumulate experience and also gauge ROC Air Force readiness and discipline and at same time spot patterns in ROC SOP. The sorties are not Taunting but probing for gaps in ROC air defense systems. If ROC air defense or fighter light up their radars, it will the copy down and then can develop electronic equipment to defeat it. Although ROC Air Force equipments are obselete, the training are still superb.
modern equipment match with lousy personnel are still worse than old equipment operated by well trained operators.
All these so call provocative measures are for a purpose. No matter what, the only means to invade by sea and air so whoever have sea and air superiority will settle the issue.

Ay, you no need so lor-sor one lah. Just admit tiong-cock 没有料, 只会打咀炮.
Your long-winded explanation will not sway my opinion of tiong military's fucked-up standards.