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[silverfox@]

Silverfox
If I will place a $100 bet in baccarat, what will be my capital?
Do I change my capital to all to chips?

If I am you, and I am placing a bet at $100 per unit, I would prepare $5000. 50 times bankroll

Sounds alot right? I know majority of gamblers do not prepare so much money to just bet $100 on a table. But its a psychological factor and also bankroll management.

As for changing all capital to chips, it depends on individual. I normally change half first.

 

[silverfox@]

Sliverfox pal.

That I utterly agree with you. When I play barca, I place bet base on the previous result.

I truly winning everytime I start placing bet in Genting. I will base on your advice, try it out in Genting again... hmmmmm... Have yet to visit genting since 2006. By the way. I never stick one table, I always jump table. Once I hit 500-1000RM. I will jump to other table or walk around for awhile to cool myself down.

Wish me luck Sliverfox dude. Cheers

If you bet base on previous result meaning

Banker, then you buy banker at next hand, Player then you buy player at next hand. This system don't work.
Ever wonder why casinos like to put the past results for people to see? Because the previous result has no effect on the next result. The thrends are there not to aid people in winning money. If it does, the casino would have gone bust.


There are some with thrends such as P(Player), B(Banker), T(Tie)
P
B
PP
BBBT
PPP
B
BB
PPP
BBB
P
BB
PPP
BB
P
B
P
B
PP

As you can see, most people play with thrends trying to predict what is opening next. Illusion. It doesn't work this way.

If you have not visited Genting since 2006, then Baccarat have 'changed' a bit. Previously it was 1st 3 free games for people to see results, now its 1st 10 free games.

Another thing is try not to jump tables. Once you have sat down at a table, just sit there, regardless of whether it is opening Ding Dong Streaks, Player Streaks, Banker Streaks. Butterflying around many tables, can reduce winnings, lose faster. Also by playing at a single table and sticking to it, can gauge winnings more consistently. The speed of the game will not be so fast and losses will be minimised. When the dealer is shuffling the deck, just take a short break too. :p

 

[sohbuckkong]

Yesterday, I was in Leisure world. After playing for about 7 hrs, I won a miserable $140 just playing Banker ONLY, of course my stakes varies depending on situation.

I then spent the money in geylang )

Very strange, yesterday not much people in L.world, by 6pm, there are many empty tables.

 

[longlicky]

If you bet base on previous result meaning

Banker, then you buy banker at next hand, Player then you buy player at next hand. This system don't work.
Ever wonder why casinos like to put the past results for people to see? Because the previous result has no effect on the next result. The thrends are there not to aid people in winning money. If it does, the casino would have gone bust.


There are some with thrends such as P(Player), B(Banker), T(Tie)
P
B
PP
BBBT
PPP
B
BB
PPP
BBB
P
BB
PPP
BB
P
B
P
B
PP

As you can see, most people play with thrends trying to predict what is opening next. Illusion. It doesn't work this way.

If you have not visited Genting since 2006, then Baccarat have 'changed' a bit. Previously it was 1st 3 free games for people to see results, now its 1st 10 free games.

Another thing is try not to jump tables. Once you have sat down at a table, just sit there, regardless of whether it is opening Ding Dong Streaks, Player Streaks, Banker Streaks. Butterflying around many tables, can reduce winnings, lose faster. Also by playing at a single table and sticking to it, can gauge winnings more consistently. The speed of the game will not be so fast and losses will be minimised. When the dealer is shuffling the deck, just take a short break too. :p

Right Sliverfox, to take a step further, not only i base on previous result. I am looking at some pattern too. I cant tell how I do it. but I usually get it by the 3rd hand of double up. With my capital of 2000RM, max i can go is 4 hands.

I like this thead, I wish you could share more on the method you bet. And i can apply them on the next trip i am up to Genting.

And.. you are utterly right that barca is the best game which let one win more.

 

[silverfox@]

Yesterday, I was in Leisure world. After playing for about 7 hrs, I won a miserable $140 just playing Banker ONLY, of course my stakes varies depending on situation.

I then spent the money in geylang )

Very strange, yesterday not much people in L.world, by 6pm, there are many empty tables.

In Genting, to finish a shoe of 60 hands takes about an hour.
In Leisureworld, to finish a shoe of 60 hands takes about 1.5 hour to the 2 hour mark, depending on whether there are many insurance bets or depending on the dealer(if trainee dealer, then will take longer time)

I don't like to go L.world, because I don't "like to fight" for ferry in and out of TMFT. I am in Genting almost every week. My friend virtually stays there these days as his rooms are free, food is free due to his high volume of plays. He has been clocking consistent $20K-$30K ringgit avg per day. The other day even saw him going out with a casino dealer. Those malaysian meimei. Quite pretty.

I don't vary my bets. If I bet $100, means I go all the way. If I go $500, I go $500. Win lose, I don't increase or decrease bets. If not, it would be very hard to track winnings, losing.

I read before your posts in SBF that you study roulette. Interesting game of chance. But I believe that Baccarat is a game where enough study is made, can increase the percentage of winning. :p

 

[silverfox@]

Right Sliverfox, to take a step further, not only i base on previous result. I am looking at some pattern too. I cant tell how I do it. but I usually get it by the 3rd hand of double up. With my capital of 2000RM, max i can go is 4 hands.

I like this thead, I wish you could share more on the method you bet. And i can apply them on the next trip i am up to Genting.

And.. you are utterly right that barca is the best game which let one win more.

First of all, I only bet on Banker. I think this you know already. This method already reduce my losing percentage by quite a lot. Some people think we are mad when we place Banker even though Player is on a long streak. But we don't care. Because in the first place we don't look at the scorecard.

2nd, I do card counting. A lot of books say card counting don't work. Yes, the book say. But ever wonder why Banker bets have to pay 5% comm, or in mini-Bacc, B6 pays half? Me and my friend spend a year to study the results, dedicatedly spend time on every card number which is out of the deck. So in reality, it works consistently.

With your capital of 2000RM you do 4 hands max with double up. 1-2-4-8 or another method I see people play is 1-3-2-6 or the 1-3-2-4 methods. All these methods, betting progressions are just numbers and depends a lot on luck. Long run, you wouldn't make it. If you make it, just plain lucky.

We basically play to win, not to gamble. This is a big difference. Think of it as a business or a career, so capital/bankroll is very important. If I bring $1000 to a casino, I would consider placing a $20 bet at most each hand. Winning returns is a 15-30%.

 

[0939]

I don't vary my bets. If I bet $100, means I go all the way. If I go $500, I go $500. Win lose, I don't increase or decrease bets. If not, it would be very hard to track winnings, losing:p

Since you only bet BANKER, what if the table produced more PLAYERS than
BANKERS. You probably lose, what will you do. Will you move to another table?
Will you sit and wait? or will you quit and rest, stay in hotel and come back again?
I have dry run on a free casino. By betting on Banker, The result is very close, eg. Just like table tennis game such as 11-10 or 12-10, and it go either way.
So how to win more like 11-6 in favor of Banker. Like Banker against the Player in a final match.
I have tried on roulette on sohbuckong's way. It works.

 

[silverfox@]

Since you only bet BANKER, what if the table produced more PLAYERS than
BANKERS. You probably lose, what will you do. Will you move to another table?
Will you sit and wait? or will you quit and rest, stay in hotel and come back again?
I have dry run on a free casino. By betting on Banker, The result is very close, eg. Just like table tennis game such as 11-10 or 12-10, and it go either way.
So how to win more like 11-6 in favor of Banker. Like Banker against the Player in a final match.
I have tried on roulette on sohbuckong's way. It works.

In a shoe of 60, I don't bet every hand. Probably only 20-30 out of the 60. Of course there will be shoes where PLAYERS more than BANKERS. It happens, but statistically, BANKERS will still happen more.
I will not move to another table. But just sit and wait for the next shoe. This not only slows down the pace but also slows down the losing(if any). I normally play in a way where I spend 2-3 hours and then I walk around go back to the table play another 2-3 hours. The funny thing is when one is winning, he doesn't feel fatigue. Only when losing, even after an hour, feel like sleeping.

When you dry run on an online free casino, the result is useless as the cards are shuffled every hand. In a 8x52 deck table, card counting can enable when to buy BANKER. That is why I don't buy every hand and only when the counting favours the BANKER.

Even if the table opens more PLAYERS, in long run, BANKERS will still open more. That is why there is 5% comm on Bankers. My friend has calculated a way to detect Tie bets via card counting. Meanwhile, he doesn't bet on that but just doing manual calculations while betting on Bankers. So far the Tie bets (if he has betted) would have got him favourable profits too. But as he said no point placing so many types of bets when 1 side is enough and also losses are minimized

 

[longlicky]

In a shoe of 60, I don't bet every hand. Probably only 20-30 out of the 60. Of course there will be shoes where PLAYERS more than BANKERS. It happens, but statistically, BANKERS will still happen more.
I will not move to another table. But just sit and wait for the next shoe. This not only slows down the pace but also slows down the losing(if any). I normally play in a way where I spend 2-3 hours and then I walk around go back to the table play another 2-3 hours. The funny thing is when one is winning, he doesn't feel fatigue. Only when losing, even after an hour, feel like sleeping.

When you dry run on an online free casino, the result is useless as the cards are shuffled every hand. In a 8x52 deck table, card counting can enable when to buy BANKER. That is why I don't buy every hand and only when the counting favours the BANKER.

Even if the table opens more PLAYERS, in long run, BANKERS will still open more. That is why there is 5% comm on Bankers. My friend has calculated a way to detect Tie bets via card counting. Meanwhile, he doesn't bet on that but just doing manual calculations while betting on Bankers. So far the Tie bets (if he has betted) would have got him favourable profits too. But as he said no point placing so many types of bets when 1 side is enough and also losses are minimized

Sliverfox,

Would like to ask you some advice and you had the answer for fellow 0939.

I actually guess you do card count. With the famous story of card count balckjack in stateyears back, casino had counter card count via increase deck and other method if not wrong. I am now interested to know do card count now. My question is, card usually is for blackjack. I wonder how you use that method on Barca.

May I know out of 10 times you play in genting. You will win how many time? your capital each trip? your winning?

Pardon me if I am asking too much.

Cheers.

 

[silverfox@]

Sliverfox,

Would like to ask you some advice and you had the answer for fellow 0939.

I actually guess you do card count. With the famous story of card count balckjack in stateyears back, casino had counter card count via increase deck and other method if not wrong. I am now interested to know do card count now. My question is, card usually is for blackjack. I wonder how you use that method on Barca.

May I know out of 10 times you play in genting. You will win how many time? your capital each trip? your winning?

Pardon me if I am asking too much.

Cheers.

Card counting in baccarat is said not to help very much by a few gurus and even mathematicians. It was said card counting helps but not the edge due to the House having commission needed for Banker bets. But me and my friend spent a year studying baccarat and many kinds of card condition.

It was said Banker wins 50.68% of the time
Player wins 49.32% of the time.

In a 8x52 deck, as the game progress, more and more cards will come out and certain cards, certain no of cards left will favour the banker. Coupled with the statistics of banker opening more, it is not a 100% sure fire way of sure win or sure open banker, But a higher percentage of Banker opening. Which is around 60%. Higher than the 50.68% When that happens laying a bet on Banker wins out of chance of 6 out of 10 or even 7 out of 10.

Each trip to genting, I will bring around $30-40K ringgit.
Theoretically to speak, I would win about 15-30% of what I bring in a night of playing. However on some days I would win more. Some days I would breakeven. If I am on a losing start, I would play till I breakeven and then stop for the day.

If I go for 3 nights, 1st night I would snowball my winnings onto my capital and on the 2nd night, I would place higher bet base on my new capital amount.
I don't play progression betting, neither increase bets when lose. I always maintain the 50 bankroll concept.

If I bet $500, I will just bet $500 all the way, regardless of whether I am winning or losing. Even if I have lost 10 units in a row, I still put $500 and not $5000.
Gambling is not about greed but how patient you are at the table.

 

[Alibaba]

I come across this interesting topic few weeks back.

The advice had serve a wake up call to me. I was addicted to gambling and had no discipline. The greed kills.

I am now trying to 1st learn the discipline way. I try that on soccer betting. So far had been ok. Like what was mentioned, the betting become boring. Every bet i stake $100. Betting over on selected league. Out of 10, i may win 6-7 or even lose.

And hey, is true that my losses was minimize. Then on another try, i bet on favourite teams. Then guess what what? I lose 3K. T_T.

A person will become desperate when they start losing more. Trying all ways to recover what they have lost. Patient and discipline helps you win as mentioned by the pros here.

By the way, Silverfox Bros, will you consider to organise a trip to genting with the members here? Reading your advice is interesting, and I am sure all bros here would like to win especially now economic is turning from bad to worst.

I know probably I am asking too much, you have been kind enough to share your experience with us. I must thank you and some other bros advice. At least now, I really lose lesser than before. Though not yet able to win but i strongly believe once I manage my discipline and greed I can be like you.

Cheers.

 

[silverfox@]

By the way, Silverfox Bros, will you consider to organise a trip to genting with the members here? Reading your advice is interesting, and I am sure all bros here would like to win especially now economic is turning from bad to worst.

I know probably I am asking too much, you have been kind enough to share your experience with us. I must thank you and some other bros advice. At least now, I really lose lesser than before. Though not yet able to win but i strongly believe once I manage my discipline and greed I can be like you.

Cheers.

It would defeat the whole purpose if I do organise a trip to genting. My purpose is not to teach people how to gamble.

A gun has 2 purposes. 1 is to kill, 1 is to save. depends on who is using it and how one uses it.

Think of going to casino and not to gamble to win, but how to make nice healthy returns in a slow way, not fast. I started out with $1000 to test out on many systems. Start small and roll on winnings into capital so that can increase bets slowly.

After a long period of playing in casino, it has taught me a lot on patience. My bad temper has gone down too. Also try going to bookshops and buy books to read. A lot of gamblers don't like reading books, as it associates with losing. But reading is an interesting way of building patience and I don't see myself as a gambler.

The interesting thing is a lot of people are clueless on how to win. I have given a big headstart by giving many tips here on Baccarat. The next sequence for people who are keen to proceed further is to analyse the game by themselves. Because only then will the greed be removed in each and everyone of you and be able to win consistently in games.

If I just tell all, the greed in every individual will be present. And that time i don't think I am helping anyone of you but instead killing you guys.

 

[longlicky]

It would defeat the whole purpose if I do organise a trip to genting. My purpose is not to teach people how to gamble.

A gun has 2 purposes. 1 is to kill, 1 is to save. depends on who is using it and how one uses it.

Think of going to casino and not to gamble to win, but how to make nice healthy returns in a slow way, not fast. I started out with $1000 to test out on many systems. Start small and roll on winnings into capital so that can increase bets slowly.

After a long period of playing in casino, it has taught me a lot on patience. My bad temper has gone down too. Also try going to bookshops and buy books to read. A lot of gamblers don't like reading books, as it associates with losing. But reading is an interesting way of building patience and I don't see myself as a gambler.

The interesting thing is a lot of people are clueless on how to win. I have given a big headstart by giving many tips here on Baccarat. The next sequence for people who are keen to proceed further is to analyse the game by themselves. Because only then will the greed be removed in each and everyone of you and be able to win consistently in games.

If I just tell all, the greed in every individual will be present. And that time i don't think I am helping anyone of you but instead killing you guys.

Well siad Sliverfox.

I have started to do some search about Barcarrat. Lets see how can I apply on it. card counting. I will have serach for more about it online, or can you share on how to card count Barcarrat?

Thank you very much?

 

[sohbuckkong]

Well siad Sliverfox.

......or can you share on how to card count Barcarrat?

Thank you very much?

Dont waste your time card counting because the outcome is unpredictable.

However, to have a winning advantage, you need to have a clear understanding of how "law of chance work" + patience + self control + strong mind + guts + money management (stake management).

 

[silverfox@]

Well siad Sliverfox.

I have started to do some search about Barcarrat. Lets see how can I apply on it. card counting. I will have serach for more about it online, or can you share on how to card count Barcarrat?

Thank you very much?

Different people have different opinions on card counting. Card counting only gives us that little bit of edge which is run down on Banker commission.

However before doing studies on Baccarat, one must understand the conditions very well.
Eg, when Player 4 points, Banker 3 points, which 3rd card that Player takes is advantage to Banker?
Or when Player 4 points and Banker 6 points, which 3rd card that Player takes is advantage or disadvantage to Banker?

8x52 card deck. Total 416 cards
Each number has 32 cards in the decks. So after 10 hands, normally left about 350+- cards after the number of cards out plus card burnt.
Even if you google all this also no use, because no one put all these on internet.
Imagine I spent months just on this alone and then months in the casino collecting live results.

You have to understand the condition or the rules in the game before thinking of a system to beat the casino. Then when you want to try out,if your minimum is $25, prepare a 50 units bankroll @ $1250 to test out. When you start winning, on your next trip see how much capital you have then allocate your min bet accordingly.

To play without emotions is the best way to fight the casino. It's like when you place $25 and whatever results come out, your heart don't beat faster, that is when you can play without worries. That is when mentally, emotionally you will not be affected and this is important as when one is emotionally affected, he will make funny decisions in a game which can never be explained and only realised after walking out of casino

 

[sohbuckkong]

.....and then months in the casino collecting live results.

.....
To play without emotions is the best way to fight the casino. ......

Next time if you need statistics (live results), let me know as I can generate baccarat or roulette results using my program.

Ya! fully agreed that playing without emotions is the key to winning in casinos. After playing so many years, I also have concluded that almost all systems are ok but in almost all cases, when losing, we deviate from the original intended system and so we lost everything, and in almost many cases, when losing, we want fast recovery, thats where we dump and so we lost everything.

 

[Mdm Tang]

Dear SilverFox,

Thank you for your writings...

 

[Mdm Tang]

Dear SilverFox,

Can i recommended that you create a Baccarat Wed Site

, maybe call it : SilverFox Baccarat , SO THAT we who enjoy baccarat can

reach you and read your writings ?

I am sure many will support you here

 

[silverfox@]

Next time if you need statistics (live results), let me know as I can generate baccarat or roulette results using my program.

Ya! fully agreed that playing without emotions is the key to winning in casinos. After playing so many years, I also have concluded that almost all systems are ok but in almost all cases, when losing, we deviate from the original intended system and so we lost everything, and in almost many cases, when losing, we want fast recovery, thats where we dump and so we lost everything.

Thanks for the offer. Yup, I think there is a program that generates live feeds. But somehow, I still prefer the live table results due to addition of number of cards burnt for each hand. Furthermore is real results

Yes, many people deviate from intended system, that's why losing. The essence in casino gambling is not so much on luck, skills, but on emotions, so when one is able to control that, at least half the battle is won.
I can only say GREED is what cause people to deviate and lose or lose back winnings. So staying emotionless is the key. That is also why my friend advised me to bring big bankroll to fight GREED. If bankroll is small, we always want to fightback fast after losses as there are not much capital left

 

[silverfox@]

Dear SilverFox,

Can i recommended that you create a Baccarat Wed Site

, maybe call it : SilverFox Baccarat , SO THAT we who enjoy baccarat can

reach you and read your writings ?

I am sure many will support you here

If I have time I probably will write it, meanwhile I have to spend more time in the casino these days as I am aiming to buy a new car:o Probably early next year I should free up some time to write