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win already enough can go home. If one has a full time job. Winning an average of $300 per week can get an extra about $1200 per mth. The casino does not kill anyone. It's human greed that kill people.

Heh - I never ever think of it THAT way somehow ....

Just simply hoping that can play for as long as possible with the capital we bring with us [bc I suppose at the back of my mind I'm thinking that I'll not be THAT lucky slot-player to hit the significant jackpots since >90% the casino wins etc etc etc ... ]

I mean I think I REALLY DO PLAY simply for the sheer FUN of playing etc ... of course WINNING BIG is good [who doesn't want ?] BUT realistically how often or will that ever occur to us UNLESS we're extremely LUCKY that day ?

I'll be very very SATISFIED if I can continue my play WITHOUT Big Losses
THAT to me is - Next to being lucky hahaha :D:)

Actually IF I exercise DISCIPLINE to play SHORTER HOURS
Think getting that $300 Per TRIP is not difficult at all :D
I guess I've never actually looked upon Slot-Playing as getting Extra Income from it - more of sheer entertainment [hopefully without big losses]

The key for me is DISCIPLINE
To tear myself away from the slots and STOP PLAY after 3 hours maybe OR when I've 'made say $300 minimum' whichever occurs 1st there ?
Yes - must REALLY hone up my discipline :o :p
 
But baccarat is too slow and need to spend quite a lot of time, so I seldom play Baccarat already.


Now going out, the part on Blackjack will tell you later.


Hi Bro Silverfox,

Just out of curiousity, said that u might want to share some BJ ups and downs. ;)

From this thread, i understand that gambling is all about losing and winning your money. Please do not lost your friends, family, or worst, your interest in life too. it is really not worth it. Money is not hard to make. We need only three meals to survive in a day. Don't have to torture yourself hours in casino gambling for the sake of three meals, right? :)
 
Like JJcc, I simply enjoy going into the CASINO just to relax and NOT to win or lose money.If I win, I happy.If I lose,I also happy.Most of the numerous occasions, I win.So happy most of the time.I'm only a small punter.Usually bring overseas friends there if they want to go into the devil's den.
 
Know your own limits and stay within it.
Work hard, play hard, have fun and no regrets. ;)
Once in a while, gone a little crazy, nevermind, life still carry on and get back to track again.
 
Hi Bro Silverfox,

Just out of curiousity, said that u might want to share some BJ ups and downs. ;)

Ok, for blackjack, there is A,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,J,Q,K
13 kind of face value cards. So dealer will only show 1 face value card each time.

The chances of winning is greatly increased when dealer has 2,3,4,5,6,7 while 9,10,J,Q,K,Ace greatly increase of our chances in losing.

The percentage of each card appearing is 1/13 = 7.69% of the time.

Imagine 1 hour play 60 hands, 2 hours play 120 hands. The law of average and probability works when there is a very big sample.
7.69% of 120hands is approx 9-10 times.

But however even if we can play 5 hours, which is 300 hands, that is a very small sample too.

The meaning of big samples goes from thousands. Meaning to say you got to go through thousands of hands before the real percentage will show.

Imagine 2,3,4,5,6,7 (6 types of value) =46.15% of the time equals to 55 times out of 120 hands.

You have a very high chance of winning if on that day the percentage of (2,3,4,5,6,7) gotten by dealer is very high. Even if it is the same at 46.15%, you can still win the house provided you must double and surrender when you have certain good value cards.

And there are days when dealer keep getting (Ace, 9,10,J,Q,K) Dealer's good face cards are losing cards for players.

The 1st 10 hands if dealer keep getting 10,J,Q,K, A face cards, how? It is very very common to face such situations. No matter how good a strategy there is no way to win these cards. So the best strategy is to think of how to lose less when dealer is strong.

Sometimes it is better to lose less and leave the casino, come back another day rather than keep playing if the cards are not to our favour.
 
And there are days when dealer keep getting (Ace, 9,10,J,Q,K) Dealer's good face cards are losing cards for players.

The 1st 10 hands if dealer keep getting 10,J,Q,K, A face cards, how? It is very very common to face such situations. No matter how good a strategy there is no way to win these cards. So the best strategy is to think of how to lose less when dealer is strong.

Sometimes it is better to lose less and leave the casino, come back another day rather than keep playing if the cards are not to our favour.
I thought you said that emotion should not come into play.
Hence even if the dealer gets 10 or picture cards for the first 10 hands, you should not assume that the dealer is on a hot or winning streak. Strictly by the law of probability, he will have to draw bad cards anytime soon.

Once I played blackjack at the same table continuously for 4 hours. I had set myself a loss limit but had not reached it, so continued. After 4 hours, I realised that I had broken even exactly. What a waste of 4 hours!

My view is that we should set both a loss limit and a time / number of hands limit for each trip. Leave whichever is reached first.
 
Thanks Bro JW5. I agree with you. I think it's better if we can bring along a companion who can drag us away when we are "dazed" and "intoxicated". Once we are in this state, no amount of money limit or promises will work. We will continue to play and play until we are "dead" bankrupt! That's the power of the casino - the ability to lure you into the depths of hell once we have lost control. ATMs will be emptied. Wallets will be emptied.Credit cards will reach its limit. The loss will be irreparable and astronomical.


Thanks JW5 for sharing your view.
 
Thanks Bro JW5. I agree with you. I think it's better if we can bring along a companion who can drag us away when we are "dazed" and "intoxicated". Once we are in this state, no amount of money limit or promises will work. We will continue to play and play until we are "dead" bankrupt! That's the power of the casino - the ability to lure you into the depths of hell once we have lost control. ATMs will be emptied. Wallets will be emptied.Credit cards will reach its limit. The loss will be irreparable and astronomical.


Thanks JW5 for sharing your view.
Bro
I understand what you mean by "dazed and intoxicated" because that's how I felt after my 4 hour blackjack game. Luckily, I had set a loss limit and eventually broke even. But should have set a time limit too.
The key to not being dazed and intoxicated is to set a time limit and as you said, go with companions with the purpose of having fun, not trying to win money.

Btw, I have been to casinos in Korea, Australia, Macau, and Genting Highlands Malaysia, but I have yet to step into SG casinos and don't intend to. That's another way to prevent being dazed and intoxicated.
 
I thought you said that emotion should not come into play.
Hence even if the dealer gets 10 or picture cards for the first 10 hands, you should not assume that the dealer is on a hot or winning streak. Strictly by the law of probability, he will have to draw bad cards anytime soon.

Once I played blackjack at the same table continuously for 4 hours. I had set myself a loss limit but had not reached it, so continued. After 4 hours, I realised that I had broken even exactly. What a waste of 4 hours!

My view is that we should set both a loss limit and a time / number of hands limit for each trip. Leave whichever is reached first.

It is not emotions coming into play. It's understanding what kind of dealer cards are advantage to us and what kind are disadvantage to us. Let's say we play 1 hours, the sample size is too small. Even if play 4 hrs straight, we may not see the real sample size. 60 hands per hour, 4 x 60 = 240 hands. Sample size is too small.

The toss coin example is best example. If you toss a coin either head or tail. Let's say toss 10 times. Will you be certain 5 times head 5 times tail? This is what I called a small sample size.
It is highly possible 8 times head, 2 times tail or 7 times head, 3 times tail.
But when you toss it 100 times, the sample size increased, but you may still get 60 heads, 40 tails.

When you toss it 1000 times, this sample size increase and you will realise the number of heads and tails are very near.

10 times, 7 head, 3 tail. 70% head, 30% tail
100 times, 60 head, 40 tail. 60% head, 40 tail.
1000 times, 528 head, 472 tail. 52.8% head, 47.2% tail.

When you add an additional toss after 10 times, the percentage increase is close to 10%.
When you add an additional toss after 1000 times, the percentage increase is only close to 0.1%

No one can sit around and wait for a 1000 hands to happen, unless he is playing 5 holes at least and playing for at least 4 hours.

If for the 1st 10 hands, dealer is on a hot roll, keep getting 10 or picture cards, doesn't mean the small cards will come soon. The law of probability only applies if there is no continuous shuffling. With a shuffler machine shuffling every round, to see the law of probability is to see over a large sample size.

There are times when you sit at a table for 4 hours, and although you started with losing and maybe after 4 hours, you get back your capital, you should not think you are wasting time. You should think about how lucky you are you can get back your capital. Most of the time, people would still be losing or lost even more because they think stop loss has not hit.

Maybe to people who patronise a casino once a month or less than once a month, 4 hours is nothing. For those who go often, the period you play must not be long and loss limit must be low.

I said this many many postings ago. Do not take too hard when losing small. Losing a $100, you just need to win $200 to see a $100 profit. But if lose a lot, example $5000, you will need to win $5100 to see a $100 profit.

Which is easier? To win $200 or to win $5100.

One of the hardest strategies to learn is how to walk away when losing and not to chase losses.

If you have a stop loss of $500 and 1 hour to play. After 1 hour, lost $200 only. Most will continue to play. But honestly if you are going to win, your 1st 10-20 minutes will already make you see profit. After 1 hour, don't see anything means you are not likely to go home a winner. The winning strategy is to save the $300 and go back another day. You just need to win $300 to see a $100 profit. And able to bring $300 out of the casino, you just need to top back $200 instead of bringing out another $500 as capital again.
Do what the casino hates most. Bringing our own capital out of casino and not losing back to them

Winning is a combination of knowing the odds, rules, applying few strategies and money management plus discipline. It's much much more than just bringing money, go into casino and play.
 
Thanks Bro JW5. I agree with you. I think it's better if we can bring along a companion who can drag us away when we are "dazed" and "intoxicated". Once we are in this state, no amount of money limit or promises will work. We will continue to play and play until we are "dead" bankrupt! That's the power of the casino - the ability to lure you into the depths of hell once we have lost control. ATMs will be emptied. Wallets will be emptied.Credit cards will reach its limit. The loss will be irreparable and astronomical.


Thanks JW5 for sharing your view.

If you only want to lose $500 per casino trip, Just bring $500, and nothing else (maybe your transport money). No atm cards, nor credit card.
You don't even need a companion.

I always think those who can lose even their transport money, are considered as hopeless people already. No medicine to treat .
 
Correct Bro Silverfox.

Casino hates most when you are playing with casino money. Bet $500, win you use that $500 and play with casino. Play smaller bets and pass your time.
 
If you only want to lose $500 per casino trip, Just bring $500, and nothing else (maybe your transport money). No atm cards, nor credit card.
You don't even need a companion.

I always think those who can lose even their transport money, are considered as hopeless people already. No medicine to treat .

It is very suffering to gamble this way cannot bring atm or credit cards.

Correct Bro Silverfox.

Casino hates most when you are playing with casino money. Bet $500, win you use that $500 and play with casino. Play smaller bets and pass your time.

Early morning, talk gamble. I bet this evening you guys probably be gambling in MBS or RWS :)
 
Thanks Bro Silverfox for your sharing on Blackjack. I never really though about this before. My strategy was try to get as close as possible to 17-21 pts :)

To be honest, when i see BJ table, i have no interest. Especially if you are sitting with peoples that love to comments. Really a mood spoiler. There was once i played BJ before. Was winning most of times, but the ones that next to me always burst. Then somehow they commented "why keep hitting all the cards?" bla bla bla... At the end I fed up and just go off, then he faster change sit to mine. Playing BJ seems have to face more than losing money during unlucky days...:)
 
Correct Bro Silverfox.

Casino hates most when you are playing with casino money. Bet $500, win you use that $500 and play with casino. Play smaller bets and pass your time.

I totally agree with you. I normally ask for cash ( to get my capital back ) once I've sufficient chips and then play slowly with the casino money.If I finish the casino chips, I will just move on. Maybe to slots - which I find very difficult to pull away:confused::confused::confused:

Good idea. Thanks for sharing...
 
I agree with Coffeeme.

Sometimes I play the BJ.When my cards are good, I see people tumpang me - many of the bets are higher than my miserble minimum...and the worst thing is this: they TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!!!!...stay! take! cut! split!!!!..don't take!!!!!!! and so on...

Eventually, I stop playing and let them have my "lucky" seat. It's so irritating when someone behind keeps instructing you...sometimes, i just wanted to tell them to FO and tell them to take over...but not nice to do that in a casino...everyone is FREE to do what he likes...you cannot stop people from tumpanging you unless you have the MAX bet which many people do to avoid such distractors!

I've no luck with BJ...just stick to my slots and min roulette...
 
Thanks Bro Silverfox for your sharing on Blackjack. I never really though about this before. My strategy was try to get as close as possible to 17-21 pts :)

To be honest, when i see BJ table, i have no interest. Especially if you are sitting with peoples that love to comments. Really a mood spoiler. There was once i played BJ before. Was winning most of times, but the ones that next to me always burst. Then somehow they commented "why keep hitting all the cards?" bla bla bla... At the end I fed up and just go off, then he faster change sit to mine. Playing BJ seems have to face more than losing money during unlucky days...:)

When you play BJ, please to do not sit at the last kaki, you will be blamed if House draws a card and wins all. Especially When you are 15pts, whether to take a card or stand.
 
When you play BJ, please to do not sit at the last kaki, you will be blamed if House draws a card and wins all. Especially When you are 15pts, whether to take a card or stand.

This one I totally agree when you're playing the minimum. Those playing max bets will curse you if you play " wrongly" ! Damned stressful sitting at the end of such a table.Very very stressful.Can die one!!!

So I've give BJ a miss now....go for free and easy slots.You're your own boss..your own winner and loser...in that small little silent corner and in your a secluded world of your own....nobody knows whether you're dying or still living....strange :confused:
 
Thanks Bro Silverfox for your sharing on Blackjack. I never really though about this before. My strategy was try to get as close as possible to 17-21 pts :)

To be honest, when i see BJ table, i have no interest. Especially if you are sitting with peoples that love to comments. Really a mood spoiler. There was once i played BJ before. Was winning most of times, but the ones that next to me always burst. Then somehow they commented "why keep hitting all the cards?" bla bla bla... At the end I fed up and just go off, then he faster change sit to mine. Playing BJ seems have to face more than losing money during unlucky days...:)

Actually blackjack is not for everyone. I think everyone should still choose the game they like best and have the confidence in winning from it.

Blackjack have many decisions to make with many scenarios and can be very daunting. But once you understand how the game is played, many decisions can be eliminated and you just make that single choice only.

I don't make comments on how people play, but the way Singaporeans play and those Malaysians in Genting play blackjack is very different.

Singaporeans are damn kiasu. When dealer has a 9, they only have 13, they also stay. Singaporeans like to play the no-bust rule and no-surrender rule.

No-bust rule is hit to 12 and never bust before dealer while no-surrender rule is never even lose half 1st. The fear of losing is what makes them make this decision. Long run will lose all the way.

The Malaysians are better when you see them play. They play their cards according to odds. When to hit, stand, surrender. Maybe it will take a while for people who play blackjack to understand. In Genting malaysia, the blackjack tables are only in the International room, not many people playing but when you see them play, they have a proper game plan.

Last time MBS most of the tables for Blackjack is $50 minimum. Very few $25 tables. Everyone flocking to play pontoon. Now the Blackjack tables mostly $25 minimum to attract people to play.

For people who are serious in Blackjack to start off with Blackjack instead of Pontoon. You learn to drive a manual car is better than learning to drive an auto car.

I am now contemplating of spending 2 hours in casino. 1 hour solely playing in blackjack and 1 hour solely playing rapid baccarat. But if I play rapid baccarat, I definitely will stay for quite long, at least 3 hours. Because don't need to bet every round, can sit at the chair, relax, :D
 
When you play BJ, please to do not sit at the last kaki, you will be blamed if House draws a card and wins all. Especially When you are 15pts, whether to take a card or stand.

15pts is simple.
Dealer 2,3,4,5,6, all stand
Dealer 7,8,9 all hit
Dealer 10,J,Q,K all surrender
Dealer Ace, hit but never buy insurance.

But if I see the 1st few players all play the no busting rule by not collecting a card when have 14, (selfish play) I will kamikaze with them and then shift out of that table.

Some players are selfish, everyone has 15pts, everyone has this mentality, leave it to the last guy. The last guy take card, if dealer bust, they say last guy good. If dealer wins, the snide comments come. So if anyone question why you never take, you can just f them back, same pts why you don't take too.

:p
 
Unfortunately not all gamblers think like you. Being a regular at casino, I am sure you will notice a lot of stupid people gambling. They don't gamble with their eyes open, simply hoping for God to help them. So choose your table wisely.
 
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