Canadian PR

[nayr69sg]

Do you think them ang mohs have the same feeling as you. Everywhere they look or turn, they see foreigners... Pinoys, Ah Tiongs, Pakis etc. Watch the CBC news today.??? Up north in Nunavut, it is fast becoming Manila north

A few points to note :

1) I agree we should not discriminate. Singaporeans have no problems tolerating hundreds of thousands of foreign domestic maids. Everywhere they turn in their own flat/condo/home also see foreigners. What's the problem?

2) There is a difference when the numerous foreigners that come into the country are taking up all the high paying top choice jobs over the locals vs the foreigners taking mostly entry level minimal wage type jobs with glass ceilings.

3) There is also a difference when the locals are told to thank the foreigners for coming so that the country can survive and the foreigners are behaving like the locals owe them big time. And reference to point 2, the foreigners continue to hire more of their own compatriots into those high level positions over the locals and telling the locals that they are inferior.

4) There is a difference where there is truly a shortage of manpower literally. ie even if you paid higher wages (realistically) you still cannot find people to work. Versus wanting to hire people at low low third world rate wages and cannot find locals willing to do it and thus bringing in foreigners from third world countries who would.

5) In a country with large open spaces, the population is spread out and the impact of influx is absorbed better than an already overcrowded space.

 

[CanuckSG]

Well, if it's your first job application in CA then SG references are the only ones, no? Ironically, they did call up mine and all three of my references acknowledged. So in this case it certainly applies to me. Yes, my existing employer do have monetary referral program as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you need to take up houseman ship for re-certification right? I bet you'll be more experienced than those junior doctors here.

Same thing here, i'm getting less than what i'm paid in SG but cars and houses are relatively cheaper(yes 1:5).

Anyway, i wish you all the best in your career!

Cheers!

I don't know about the others but Singapore references are useless in my opinion. The employers can't be bothered to make long distance calls to Singapore. What you need are references in Canada , better in the city itself.

Once again it is a chicken or egg problem.

Hence it is better to get a job (any job) first and then build those references.

You get to know more people and more opportunities open for you. For the record, some companies offer their employees a "bonus" for recommending people who get hired eventually by the company, so it is in their interests to recommend good people.

Becoming a doctor here in Canada is not so simple like in Singapore. Have to pass all the relevant exams FIRST before you can smell the residency interviews. And even after that thousands are applying for less than a handful of places across the country. In the meantime what do I do? Place all my eggs and hopes on that? Or move on in whatever I can find first? What happens if I never get to become a doctor in Canada?

Salary wise it is about 1/3 what I used to make in Singapore. But one has to consider that a new Toyota Corolla here costs 1/5 of what it does in Singapore. Same with housing. So overall I am still better off despite the drop in earnings. And this is just the beginning. What happens if I do become a doctor? Or if I progress in my new career?

 

[nayr69sg]

Well, if it's your first job application in CA then SG references are the only ones, no? Ironically, they did call up mine and all three of my references acknowledged. So in this case it certainly applies to me. Yes, my existing employer do have monetary referral program as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you need to take up houseman ship for re-certification right? I bet you'll be more experienced than those junior doctors here.

Same thing here, i'm getting less than what i'm paid in SG but cars and houses are relatively cheaper(yes 1:5).

Anyway, i wish you all the best in your career!

Cheers!

What kind of job did you apply for as your first job? Maybe it depends on the kind of job you apply for and what kind of background you come from. Care to share?

I mean my background is medical. So the reference I put were all doctors, head of polyclinic, head of departments etc. And I was applying for jobs like Alberta Blue Cross medical adjudicator (they never even called me for interview), clinical assistant (no interview), lab assistant (no interview), general laborer (only got 1 interview which I landed job but they never called my references. what for right?) macdonalds (told me I was over qualified and never called my references either). So what the heck?

As for becoming a doctor here in Canada.....

http://www.change.org/petitions/the...f-foreign-trained-immigrant-doctors-in-canada

I guess that link will explain it all.

 

[CanuckSG]

I'm in the building trade but my prior experience was Sales & Marketing (IT) back in SG. Before i moved here, i reminded myself and my spouse to lower our expectations since it's basically starting from Ground Zero. And with that mindset, and with sheer determination, one will do well here.

Speaking of which, while healthcare is free, there are flaws in the system(just like NHS in UK). There's no alternative even when one is willing to pay for better services. What's your take on AHS?

What kind of job did you apply for as your first job? Maybe it depends on the kind of job you apply for and what kind of background you come from. Care to share?

I mean my background is medical. So the reference I put were all doctors, head of polyclinic, head of departments etc. And I was applying for jobs like Alberta Blue Cross medical adjudicator (they never even called me for interview), clinical assistant (no interview), lab assistant (no interview), general laborer (only got 1 interview which I landed job but they never called my references. what for right?) macdonalds (told me I was over qualified and never called my references either). So what the heck?

As for becoming a doctor here in Canada.....

http://www.change.org/petitions/the...f-foreign-trained-immigrant-doctors-in-canada

I guess that link will explain it all.

 

[nayr69sg]

I'm in the building trade but my prior experience was Sales & Marketing (IT) back in SG. Before i moved here, i reminded myself and my spouse to lower our expectations since it's basically starting from Ground Zero. And with that mindset, and with sheer determination, one will do well here.

Speaking of which, while healthcare is free, there are flaws in the system(just like NHS in UK). There's no alternative even when one is willing to pay for better services. What's your take on AHS?

Ah....Home Depot?

All medical systems have their pros and cons.

Frankly I'm not too familiar with the AHS. I mean I'm the family doctor so we hardly ever go to any other doctor except just to register and say hi "just in case".

I did bring a colleague to the A&E when he had a head injury. I closed the scalp laceration with steri-strips but thought it would be better to get it tissue glued. We waited for 4 hours before the doc saw him and said "I think you did a great job!" and wanted to leave it at that but I politely asked whether he thought it should have tissue glue (which was the reason I brought him there) and he agreed.

In the waiting area I saw a guy walking around clutching his loin in pain and it was clear he probably had ureteric colic. He was cursing a lot and complaining to his wife while waiting. But when the doctor came he was very polite and listened to the doctor's words. After the doctor left he complained again about the long wait and all.

to me.....THAT IS SIMPLY UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But yeah that's the way patients are like over here. In Singapore wait for 15 minutes and you get people banging fists on tables already.

I attribute part of the differences to the fact that AHS is free for all and supposedly all are treated equally regardless of wealth or status. Whereas in Singapore it is the total opposite if you ask me.

Which is better? I think the AHS system will rely a lot on how the doctors choose to do their work. As long as the doctors place the patient's well being at the top, it will still work. You have to trust the doctors. But also expect that no one is perfect and there will be mistakes made.

As for the Singapore system, if you have money you are treated like a king and charged like a king. If you don't have money, then you feel like it's your fault that you cannot get king like treatment. Trust me when you don't know much, and are anxious, you will want to be treated ASAP, and get emotional etc.

Personally I prefer the AHS system. Let the doctors do their work. Let them make the recommendations. Leave the decisions to them. If it isn't meant to be then let it be.

Doctors cannot save everyone and not everyone gets successfully treated no matter how much money they spend contrary to what the capitalist health care systems would like you to believe. I have seen my fair share of patients and loved ones who look at doctors with suspicion (mostly unfounded) and feel guilty (unnecessarily) that they were not financially well off and thus unable to provide for their loved ones.

When its time to die, its time to die.

But not everyone will share my views and that's perfectly fine. I do strongly believe that rich or poor, a sick man is a sick man and should be treated the same by the doctor.

 

[mayliewwan]

Emergency admission is base on priority. Life threatening cases get first priority. My father had both stroke and heart attack. Almost 10 years ago, he had stroke. Called 911 and the ambulance and paramedics were at the door within 5 mins .It as early in the morning, between 6:30 to 7 am on Sunday. The medics supected my father had a stroke and took him to the hospital.He stayed in the hospiatl for several weeks. Yes he lost the use of his right hand but he can still grip and hold the walker's handle when walking.
On Xmas eve 2010, after dinner he decided to call it the night and headed to his room. All of a sudden he just couldn't walked anymore. His breathing was getting heavy he had to be helped to get to his room. his legs were cold and was getting pale in color. Call 911 and again EMS sent the ambulance and medics and firetruck to the house within 5 mins. Why firefighters call ed in?? Don't know. Maybe to clear the a path thru the snowbank on the kerb. They left as quickly as they came The medics treated my father and they decided he had to go to the hospital at once because his breathing was getting very heavy
At the hospital, we were told he may had a silent heart attack. They would do a blood test 8 hrs later to confirm if he had a heart attack. But because it was Xmas eve and with many staff on holiday leave, the test would most likely be done first thing in the morning. Blood test confirmed he had a heart attack. In late Jan, doctors told us his kidneys were failing and in early March he was on dialysis
His current medication.. Aranesp, Plavix, Colchince, Ran Pantoprazole, PMS-Ismin, vitamin B,C and D and Folic acid. Thanks to socialist medicine, we didn't ended up in the poor house. Can you tell me how much Aranesp cost in Singapore??? How can the average people on dialysis pay for Aranesp??? Do without it??? Cover my Medisave????

4 hours for A and E medical treatment is considered fast in many hospitals in Canada. Socialist medical system = slow and inefficient system. Just be prepared, when you get a stroke/heart attack, the ambulance takes an hour to reach you, you queue up at A and E for 2 hours, and the doctor sees you. Surely as a trained medical monkey, you know it is a gone case once it takes more than a few minutes, there is scarring in the heart, and the brain is dead.

Might as well stay at home and spend some time revising your will. Hahaha. :oIo:

 

[nayr69sg]

You sound terribly limp and bitter. I suspect you are suffering from depression or one of those mid-life crisis. Emigrate to Canada to be an office boy and then you desperately try to convince us there is a career in that, and call yourself a 'Land Administrator', and call anyone who advises you to look for a better career condescending.

Pathetic excuse for a man. Maybe you are chasing the dragon in Canada? You sound like a druggie.

I'm sorry to have made you feel that way about me.

Cheers

 

[Hock]

Do you think them ang mohs have the same feeling as you. Everywhere they look or turn, they see foreigners... Pinoys, Ah Tiongs, Pakis etc. Watch the CBC news today.??? Up north in Nunavut, it is fast becoming Manila north

Canada is like United Nation; all are immigrants. You will be surprised to find that many ang mohs are work permit holders(Aussie, NZ, US, and Europeans).

 

[CanuckSG]

Not HD, but a small homebuilder.

Well, I must agree your assessment is objective and truthful.

Ah....Home Depot?

All medical systems have their pros and cons.

Frankly I'm not too familiar with the AHS. I mean I'm the family doctor so we hardly ever go to any other doctor except just to register and say hi "just in case".

I did bring a colleague to the A&E when he had a head injury. I closed the scalp laceration with steri-strips but thought it would be better to get it tissue glued. We waited for 4 hours before the doc saw him and said "I think you did a great job!" and wanted to leave it at that but I politely asked whether he thought it should have tissue glue (which was the reason I brought him there) and he agreed.

In the waiting area I saw a guy walking around clutching his loin in pain and it was clear he probably had ureteric colic. He was cursing a lot and complaining to his wife while waiting. But when the doctor came he was very polite and listened to the doctor's words. After the doctor left he complained again about the long wait and all.

to me.....THAT IS SIMPLY UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But yeah that's the way patients are like over here. In Singapore wait for 15 minutes and you get people banging fists on tables already.

I attribute part of the differences to the fact that AHS is free for all and supposedly all are treated equally regardless of wealth or status. Whereas in Singapore it is the total opposite if you ask me.

Which is better? I think the AHS system will rely a lot on how the doctors choose to do their work. As long as the doctors place the patient's well being at the top, it will still work. You have to trust the doctors. But also expect that no one is perfect and there will be mistakes made.

As for the Singapore system, if you have money you are treated like a king and charged like a king. If you don't have money, then you feel like it's your fault that you cannot get king like treatment. Trust me when you don't know much, and are anxious, you will want to be treated ASAP, and get emotional etc.

Personally I prefer the AHS system. Let the doctors do their work. Let them make the recommendations. Leave the decisions to them. If it isn't meant to be then let it be.

Doctors cannot save everyone and not everyone gets successfully treated no matter how much money they spend contrary to what the capitalist health care systems would like you to believe. I have seen my fair share of patients and loved ones who look at doctors with suspicion (mostly unfounded) and feel guilty (unnecessarily) that they were not financially well off and thus unable to provide for their loved ones.

When its time to die, its time to die.

But not everyone will share my views and that's perfectly fine. I do strongly believe that rich or poor, a sick man is a sick man and should be treated the same by the doctor.

 

[Hock]

There is something called health insurance in Singapore. And polyclinic sell you generic drugs dirt cheap.

Very interesting story. 5 minutes and the ambulance was there. So was the ambulance a spaceship? Or do you live in a hospital?

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120219-328820.html

And, I wonder why so many Singaporeans crossing the causeway to buy medicines and seeking medical treatments in Malaysia.

 

[mayliewwan]

Not only that. Everytime we go back for holidays, we are asked to bring both prescription medications and over the counter medication for our relatives. So much about health insurance coverage

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120219-328820.html

And, I wonder why so many Singaporeans crossing the causeway to buy medicines and seeking medical treatments in Malaysia.

 

[mayliewwan]

Errr.. Singaporean Chinese and Indian descendants of immigrants?? I know both my late grandparents were from China.
Didn't you know Canada has reciprocal agreement with other countries allowing young people tp study and work in Canada??? Check Banff. Lots of Japs Aussies et al.
Err...two years ago, the company I am with brought in some workers from its sister plants in the US to help out while doing upgranding work for one of Trans Alta plant. Project must be completed in 6 weeks Other contractors brought in workers from UK

Canada is like United Nation; all are immigrants. You will be surprised to find that many ang mohs are work permit holders(Aussie, NZ, US, and Europeans).

 

[mayliewwan]

Looks like you don;t know anything about Canada EMS. In Alberta EMS stations are scattered all over a city. some are bundle with firehalls while others are stand alone In Alberta the goal is 8 mins respone time. Go Google Alberta EMS response time if you don't believe me. I believe a U of Calgary study showed that 70+% of the emergency calls were within the 8 min timeframe. Solution. Build a few more stations in each city
Health insurance coverage? If polyclinic selling dirt cheap generic drugs , why do relatives always asked us to buy prescription medication and over the counter medication(brand name extra strength ones) to bring back???

There is something called health insurance in Singapore. And polyclinic sell you generic drugs dirt cheap.

Very interesting story. 5 minutes and the ambulance was there. So was the ambulance a spaceship? Or do you live in a hospital?

 

[wendypoh]

Dirty Hospitals put Canadians at Risk

The Canadian Press
March 10, 2012

The health of hospitalized Canadians and their visitors is being seriously put at risk by hospitals that have cut corners in cleaning budgets to save money, a Market place investigation has revealed.

The program took hidden cameras inside 11 hospitals in Ontario and British Columbia. What they found in many of them were surprisingly inadequate cleaning regimens – in short, dirty hospitals that could make you sick.

In many hospitals, Market place staffers applied a harmless gel to places that many people would touch – hand rails, door handles, light switches, elevator buttons.

The gel glows when seen under an ultra-violet light. But most of the time – and this was true in every hospital where Marketplace carried out gel tests – the gel was still there more than 24 hours later, meaning the surfaces had not been cleaned at all.

The program talked to cleaners, supervisors, nurses, doctors, and hospital administrators to get a handle on what has become a major problem at Canadian health-care facilities – a shocking number of hospital-acquired infections.

About 250,000 Canadians come down with life-threatening infections while in hospitals every year. That’s the highest rate in the developed world. As many as 12,000 people a year die.

Gary Bell was admitted to Niagara General Hospital for treatment of pancreatitis in 2011. While there, he contracted C. difficile and never recovered. He was admitted to Niagara General Hospital for treatment of pancreatitis. The 63-year-old retired school teacher contracted C. difficile – a life-threatening superbug that is all too common in Canadian hospitals. It ended up playing a role in his death a few months later.

Denise Ball remembers the cleaning regimen in her husband's room was less than adequate, saying the cleaners would spend only 10 minutes on a room everyone knew was infected with C. difficile. She says a proper cleaning would have taken much longer.

Time and again, hospital insiders told Marketplace that cleaners were being asked to do more with less.

"We used to have one person to one wing of a hospital to clean," one cleaner said. "Now, we have three floors to clean."

A cleaning supervisor at one hospital told Marketplace host Erica Johnson that it's "common practice" for cleaners not to change the cleaning solution in the bucket when mopping up. "They just don't have the time," the supervisor said.

Sometimes there aren't enough cleaning supplies. A nurse, whose identity Marketplace protected, said she's seen a cleaner mopping common areas after having mopped the rooms of infected patients because she didn't have enough mops to change. "She's just cross-contaminated the whole area, so there's no area that was actually clean."

Sometimes, only one cleaner would be on staff in an entire hospital during night shifts. "That kind of day-night difference is very common, and it makes no sense," says Dr. Michael Gardam, an infectious disease expert at the University Health Network in Vancouver.

It's not like we haven't seen the devastating results of hospital-acquired illness. Newscasts and newspapers have been filled with stories of hospitals under quarantine because of C. difficile outbreaks. In the last decade, outbreaks have hit hospitals in most provinces. A huge outbreak in 2003 and 2004 led to as many as 2,000 deaths in Quebec.

There's something else that some observers think is helping to drive the pressure to skimp on cleaning. In Ontario and British Columbia, for example, hospitals are given bonuses for turning over beds quickly – hundreds of extra dollars each time a hospital gets a patient out of a room before a certain time.

"They just don't get it," says Denise Ball. "And maybe until one of their loved ones that went in healthy and … a few months later ... they're going to their grave. Maybe that's what will wake them up."

 

[starstar]

You sound terribly limp and bitter. I suspect you are suffering from depression or one of those mid-life crisis. Emigrate to Canada to be an office boy and then you desperately try to convince us there is a career in that, and call yourself a 'Land Administrator', and call anyone who advises you to look for a better career condescending.

Pathetic excuse for a man. Maybe you are chasing the dragon in Canada? You sound like a druggie.

geylanguncle, everyone has a choice on the way they live their life. And every person has a purpose in life, nothing's wrong with flipping burgers or being an office administrator.

I choose to live a simple life with a dead-end job doing the same things day in day out earning a modest salary and I am not shameful of it. I don't see the need to justify all my actions especially to someone who is materialistic. They simply don't understand because they are always busy dreaming of more money and the desire of power, career success and material possession are everything to them.

I believe in my dreams to live a simple life.

 

[Hock]

Breaking News

The Government of Canada announced on 29 March 2012 a plan to reduce the backlog of Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications by returning all applications and government fees submitted prior to 27 February 2008. This will amount to a total of almost 300,000 returned applications, as well as approximately $130 million in refunded government processing fees.

Approximately 160,000 FSW applications, submitted after 28 February 2008, will remain in queue for processing.


http://www.cicnews.com/2012/03/canadian-government-slashes-backlog-031472.html

 

[nayr69sg]

Breaking News

The Government of Canada announced on 29 March 2012 a plan to reduce the backlog of Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications by returning all applications and government fees submitted prior to 27 February 2008. This will amount to a total of almost 300,000 returned applications, as well as approximately $130 million in refunded government processing fees.

Approximately 160,000 FSW applications, submitted after 28 February 2008, will remain in queue for processing.


http://www.cicnews.com/2012/03/canadian-government-slashes-backlog-031472.html

So it's not a first come first serve basis. If you applied AFTER 28 Feb 2008, you are in the queue. But if you applied before that, bye bye.

That's like telling the front people lining up at the Apple Store to go home, while the people at the back get to stay and move up closer to the booth?

Anyone know why this logic was applied?

 

[starstar]

Mind sharing with us? Heard that they are also making changes to temporary foreign workers too.

 

[Hock]

So it's not a first come first serve basis. If you applied AFTER 28 Feb 2008, you are in the queue. But if you applied before that, bye bye.

That's like telling the front people lining up at the Apple Store to go home, while the people at the back get to stay and move up closer to the booth?

Anyone know why this logic was applied?

The problem started when Canada's NOC list was super long(in the hundreds). Every Tom, Dick and Mary can apply. But, CIC used the 'tai chi' method to process. Hence the queue started to pile up into the hundreds of thousands. The waiting time started to stretch; some waited for seven or eight years - no sound, no picture. And, those who have landed couldn't find their dreamed jobs. They ended up in minimal wage survival jobs. Most #@%&* CIC for their predicaments; some even sued CIC for misrepresentations.

Then, CIC created another express queue with a shorter NOCs(mostly tradesmen that Canada needs); concurrently with the old queue. When CIC can't handle the load of its own creation, it bailed out by sacrificing the old queue.

 

[Hock]

‘World Happiness Report’ ranks Canada fifth happiest nation in the world


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/cana...s-canada-fifth-happiest-nation-164148262.html

Be happy, come to Canada.