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But in ang mor lands..byd selling well n so far no news on any issues etc...so export version Bagus n Toyota going to use byd tech for next gen hybrids..so byd tat bad meh?

Selling well because of dumping, which is another thing those trashy commie Tiongs excel at.

Once the taxes, tariffs and embargos kick in, those Tiongs are fucked. :cool:
 

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Quality of china cars are not bad. As they used the expertise and experience assembling German and European cars into its product. I may go for china cars too. It looks like a Jeep, range rover or Mercedes G class at 1/3 the price. Same interior quality with more features added in. Like 540 deg camera
 

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But in ang mor lands..byd selling well n so far no news on any issues etc...so export version Bagus n Toyota going to use byd tech for next gen hybrids..so byd tat bad meh?
China is way ahead in the EV game in terms of cost containment, diversity of models, value for money and loads of features. And near monopoly on batteries (even Tesla uses BYD batteries).

But all lithium ion batteries are inherently highly flammable, regardless of QC. Under certain conditions they can catch fire spontaneously which can be very difficult to extinguish, resulting in threat to life and property. So lithium is an interim solution; in the longer term more viable alternatives to fossil fuels will have to be found.

No, I don't feel safe with EVs.
 
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China is way ahead in the EV game in terms of cost containment, diversity of models, value for money and loads of features. And near monopoly on batteries (even Tesla uses BYD batteries).

But all lithium ion batteries are inherently highly flammable, regardless of QC. Under certain conditions they can catch fire spontaneously which can be very difficult to extinguish, resulting in threat to life and property. So lithium is an interim solution; in the longer term more viable alternatives to fossil fuels will have to be found.

No, I don't feel safe with EVs.
Me thinks and hope the sodium battery would be a good alternative.... futhermore the mining of lithium is very polluting and the batteries have recycling issues

Sodium Replaces Lithium In a New Type Of Battery
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Professor Y. Shirley Meng of the UChicago Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering. Image courtesy of Dr. Y. Shirley Meng
If nations are to meet their sustainable energy goals, experts argue that batteries will be a crucial part of the equation. Not only are batteries key for many technologies, they’ll also be necessary to meet energy demands with a power grid that is mainly supplied by renewable energy sources like wind and solar. Without batteries, power from those sources can’t be stored for use when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing.

Right now, many technologies depend on lithium-ion batteries. While they certainly work well and have revolutionized mobile devices and electric vehicles, there are drawbacks. First, the lithium, cobalt, and nickel they require can only be found in some countries, and there have been accusations of unethical mining practices, including child labor. The mining and production processes also emit a large amount of CO2, and the batteries themselves can explode and cause fires, although these incidents are becoming less common.

A promising, greener solution to our battery needs could be something called a solid-state battery. Lithium-ion batteries conduct electricity through a liquid electrolyte solution, while solid-state batteries do so with solid materials, such as ceramic, glass, and sulfides. This means they have lower risk of fires, charge faster, have higher voltages, and can be recycled. However, their development has taken longer than expected, due to cost, production hurdles, and lack of large-scale, real-world testing.

Earlier this month, teams at the University of Chicago Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering and the University of California San Diego published a paper in Nature Energy demonstrating the world’s first anode-free, sodium-based, solid-state battery architecture, which can charge quickly and last for several hundred cycles. Its main ingredient, sodium, is much more abundant than lithium, cobalt, and nickel, which could mean more affordable and environmentally friendly batteries in the future.

Ira Flatow sits down with Dr. Y. Shirley Meng, a professor at the University of Chicago Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering and chief scientist for energy storage science at Argonne National Laboratory, to talk about the advancement, and when we could expect to see these unique batteries in our devices.

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Shirley Meng
Dr. Y. Shirley Meng is a professor of Molecular Engineering at the University of Chicago and the chief scientist of the Argonne Collaborative Center for Energy Storage Science at Argonne National Laboratory in Lemont, Illinois.
 
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Quality of china cars are not bad. As they used the expertise and experience assembling German and European cars into its product. I may go for china cars too. It looks like a Jeep, range rover or Mercedes G class at 1/3 the price. Same interior quality with more features added in. Like 540 deg camera
BYD proton saga
 
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