Breaking! 369 gang slashed 16 people at Bukit panjang

[cass888]

I'll say (at least during my time) there's no such thing one-hour response time, that's enough to reach Johor Bahru. The usual response was 10 mins. +/- for FRC ("radio" cars) and 20 mins. for DPC ("patrol" cars). It's as fast as any vehicle within reasonably near distance could get, unless in rare co-incidences where it's really nearby like at the next block or the next street.

I'll give you an example. If at Downtown East you saw gangsters flashing choppers and splashing blood, you call 999. The nearest police car is at the Pasir Ris estate area, even if it arrives within 10 mins. somebody's going to get chopped. If you expect total patrol at all areas 24/7, be prepared for a police state, and pay for it. I'm neither kidding nor shifting responsibility when I say it's an educational and social problem, not a police problem.

The police can patrol wherever within their manpower, they can deter some crimes to some extent, they can arrest and prosecute, they can even shoot people there and then if they're too violent and dangerous. In the end and toward the ends, if the children aren't educated and brought up properly, where's the root of the problem? Blaming the police is sheer and sure out.

During your time, anyone goes to make police report, the PC will use ways and means to discourage you.

 

[Rogue Trader]

One of the victims, an 18-year-old polytechnic student known only as Mr Huang, told Lianhe Wanbao: "They pointed the knives at us and shouted '369'.

"They also asked if we are members of 'Pak Hai Tong' and when we said no, they surrounded us and started slashing us."

This is very suspicious. Sounds like a rival gang trying to frame 369.

I think clinton666 must be one of the parang slashers.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Very rare Banglas came to make such reports. But there were a few idiots. We told them they must hire lawyers and they disappeared. Banglas wearing gold chains worth snatching were quite unheard of. Most actionable cases involving Banglas were dead bodies at mortuary or half-dead bodies at hospital, beside the routine work permits or social passes expired where they run on sight from police instead of looking for police to make reports.

Then it's safe to say your stint was not in Tanglin or Central. Little India belongs to the two land divisions previously. Not sure if it is the same today.

 

[Ramseth]

During your time, anyone goes to make police report, the PC will use ways and means to discourage you.

Those are nonsense cases. I haven't heard of any police officers dare discourage complainants with evidence of crimes from lodging report. In fact, bona fide cases are most welcome for those seeking promotion prospects.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Why you all keep blaming or shifting the onus on police? Poly and sec. sch. teens join gangs to chop each other up, you all should look for the Ministry of Education. Police can only clear the mess up in the aftermath.

SSB/CID used to give talks in schools on SS and its consequences. Not too sure how successful it was in the past and whether these talks are being done currently. Used to be one Jeffrey Aw who did all these talks. He is father of Jeanette Aw.

 

[Rogue Trader]

Why you all keep blaming or shifting the onus on police? Poly and sec. sch. teens join gangs to chop each other up, you all should look for the Ministry of Education. Police can only clear the mess up in the aftermath.

This is a joke right? If police have been keeping a close tab on the gangs after the downtown east murder, this revenge attack would not have happened. This is a failure on their intelligence gathering part.

 

[Rogue Trader]

I haven't heard of any police officers dare discourage complainants with evidence of crimes from lodging report.

Actually I have. Heard from the horse's mouth. It happened at the Geylang police station about 12 years ago. That led to a letter of complain to the MP. Months later, several inspectors from that precint was investigated for corruption. Ah long san was charged and went to jail.

You should know better than me what happened.

 

[cass888]

Those are nonsense cases. I haven't heard of any police officers dare discourage complainants with evidence of crimes from lodging report. In fact, bona fide cases are most welcome for those seeking promotion prospects.

Don't bluff. I can name you at least 3 cases that the PC refused to take the case but making the right calls got them to take the report. You mean nonsense cases become non-nonsense cases when a big shot calls them is it? I remember my NUS friends saying those white tags keng one waiting for ROD.

You saying it doesn't happen?

 

[Ramseth]

This is a joke right? If police have been keeping a close tab on the gangs after the downtown east murder, this revenge attack would not have happened. This is a failure on their intelligence gathering part.

This is your joke. If the police keeps close tab on everybody, Singapore would be worse than Nazi or Soviet police state. How is that possible? The parents, relatives and friends would have to be under phonetap and CCTV!

Secondly, two gangs met and clashed at a unprearranged encounter, just coincidently, but turned ugly and bloody. How can police prevent. Only education and upbringing can prevent such things from happening.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Why you all keep blaming or shifting the onus on police? Poly and sec. sch. teens join gangs to chop each other up, you all should look for the Ministry of Education. Police can only clear the mess up in the aftermath.

pls with singapore always boasting how eifficient it's civil service is what's wrong with blaming the police when things fuck up?

So mas selamat escaping isn't the fault of the ppl at whitney detention centre?

We shouldn't blame them but blame ourselves instead. Correct?

 

[alvin36]

So that is the town where Teo Ho Pin managed? My goodness~!!! he not only lost millions of our Town Council money and still allows hooligan to use his area as killing site. If Singapore is managed by opposition parties, we will not have such bold incident happened in our backyard.

he will say "BE THANKFUL"..... only 16 injured.
due to the good work of his town council and RC... that area is safe. Only 16 injured. Residents must BE THANKFUL

 

[Rogue Trader]

This is your joke. If the police keeps close tab on everybody, Singapore would be worse than Nazi or Soviet police state. How is that possible? The parents, relatives and friends would have to be under phonetap and CCTV!

When a big fight happened in the 90s in Jurong, my camp mate was summoned up for questioning. He was not involved in the fight but still got interrogated in the room... telephone book and all. My campmate knew nothing and was let go. But they got their men from others.

That was the amount of police work done back then. nowadays leh? Zzzzzzz

 

[Rogue Trader]

So mas selamat escaping isn't the fault of the ppl at whitney detention centre?

We shouldn't blame them but blame ourselves instead. Correct?

Of course correct lah! we were complacent!

 

[lifeafter41]

Youngest victim was only 8!?!?! WTF now they getting them young

If rival gang fights, nothing to say, but 8 years old children also whack, then these bunch ought to be shot.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Actually I have. Heard from the horse's mouth. It happened at the Geylang police station about 12 years ago. That led to a letter of complain to the MP. Months later, several inspectors from that precint was investigated for corruption. Ah long san was charged and went to jail.

You should know better than me what happened.

Usually it is the IOs on duty who will discourage reports being made. Coz the IO has lots of work to do once report lodged. The charge-room uniformed officer is usually ok with reports lodged. If they good bro of IO, they will dissuade. If bad blood, they will "find" and "dig" for more offences for the complainant.

There are many stories of how the kuai lan IOs are punished by their colleagues. The DSI very important. Don't offend him. If you do, he just make arrests at gambling dens whereby 20-30 arrested was common. The AIO will be stucked! The IO and SIO too, helping record statements.

 

[viagra31]

SSB/CID used to give talks in schools on SS and its consequences. Not too sure how successful it was in the past and whether these talks are being done currently. Used to be one Jeffrey Aw who did all these talks. He is father of Jeanette Aw.

hi , i think he is the father of sharon Au.

Last time got Lim Ah Soon , Robert chew , Lau Hor Kia , Sharon Au father , and many more "Tau Hong " ecentric SSB.
Walk into SSB , come out in a stretcher in 80s.

 

[GoldenDragon]

This is your joke. If the police keeps close tab on everybody, Singapore would be worse than Nazi or Soviet police state. How is that possible? The parents, relatives and friends would have to be under phonetap and CCTV!

Secondly, two gangs met and clashed at a unprearranged encounter, just coincidently, but turned ugly and bloody. How can police prevent. Only education and upbringing can prevent such things from happening.

The police can never keep track of everybody. No time and resources to do that. They need to concentrate on the "core" chaps.

Only "significant" individuals are monitored by non-police agencies. These agencies rank much higher than the police.

 

[Ramseth]

pls with singapore always boasting how eifficient it's civil service is what's wrong with blaming the police when things fuck up?

There's nothing wrong with blaming the government or civil servil departments when things go wrong. Just blame the correct departments. It's not only fairer but it also get to the roots of the problems.

So mas selamat escaping isn't the fault of the ppl at whitney detention centre?

We shouldn't blame them but blame ourselves instead. Correct?

That's a valid case to blame ISD, gurkha and police. I look at things objectively. Blame where blame is due. By the way for that matter, they still haven't give any satisfactory accountability to the public.

 

[byleftcan]

The Bt Panjang attacks, really 369 or idiot 369 wannabes? Probably latter as 369 heads wouldn't want this sort of attention especially now.

 

[Screwball]

Sorry to be blunt but SPF is useless, in the past, present and always will be under PAP rule.

What proofs? When someone call 999, the police has a duty to rush to scene in the quickest possible manner! How long does SPF take to get to scene after receiving an emergency call?

We are having discussion during dinner at my working place and our ex-police officer security manager is telling us about those days when he was duty officer at police radio centre. He is saying whenever they receiving 999 calls about fights, they will evaluating the seriousness of the case before deciding to despatching the radio cars. If it is a gangfight, they will despatch the farthest radio car and sometimes purposely give them the wrong location so as to delay the arrival and let the gangsters destroying each other.

Only for crime cases or saving lives cases like fire or accident then they will despatching the nearest radio car. My security manager retiring long time ago in 1996 so don't know if the police radio centre still practising the same procedure.