being sent letter, waiting to be sued

[chorut]

apparently they claim they don't want the money,
FMH is epscially pissed that i tell people we are related

sonow the whole PAP with her?
am i going to be cruxified for telling people she is my sis in law???

You look very much like FMH, seriously, but prettier.

 

[wendychan]

thanks jiakhongleow. will consider all options when we go to court. don't know how soon that will be




www.yuffy.com

 

[jiakhongleow]

that is legal binding but does not stop you from using a lawyer to write to them to tell him to get a medical certificate to proof she is of unsound mind.

by signed agreement, i not even allowed to contact her.
on relfection CHC's KH should hire their lawyer

 

[wendychan]

they are also going use some emails that i wrote against me. i realize that these emails were sent to a cousin (whose father was also recently in the news and whose hubby is also a lawyer, so now i can/will be sued dunno by how many pax- see the hand of revenge and evil) by mistake.
you know how when key in the email address of someone all the names beginning with A came out? and sometimes you hit the wrong "A", then you hit send before checking...

 

[chorut]

Without prejudice,

Looks like I need to come in to help you out.

The agreement you signed, if it resemble a gag order, is not enforceable. Go to your lawyer and ask him if you can ignore
the agreement, since only a court can gag someone.

Once you clear that matter, go for the jugular.

Good luck.

 

[wendychan]

Without prejudice,

Looks like I need to come in to help you out.

The agreement you signed, if it resemble a gag order, is not enforceable. Go to your lawyer and ask him if you can ignore
the agreement, since only a court can gag someone.

Once you clear that matter, go for the jugular.

Good luck.

if u have law experience, maybe you can PM me? its a bit difficult for me to "job hope" lawyers.
ithink the lawyer i have now is ok, but there may be someone with more experience in family matters
if not thanks for the advice.will consider all options

 

[jiakhongleow]

Not to worry on this email you wrote. To them is an allegation only. They will take you to court for defamation only but onus is on them to prove it is not true.

As long as this is not a police case it is OK. Don't drag PAP into the case or don't write to LHL and whoever PAP people. They may report to police and make it a police case and you are stuffed if you annoyed them further. There is such thing as criminal defamation and is a police case, stay clear of that and not reveal too much of this case. Seek legal advice.

they are also going use some emails that i wrote against me. i realize that these emails were sent to a cousin (whose father was also recently in the news and whose hubby is also a lawyer, so now i can/will be sued dunno by how many pax- see the hand of revenge and evil) by mistake.
you know how when key in the email address of someone all the names beginning with A came out? and sometimes you hit the wrong "A", then you hit send before checking...

 

[chorut]

if u have law experience, maybe you can PM me? its a bit difficult for me to "job hope" lawyers.
ithink the lawyer i have now is ok, but there may be someone with more experience in family matters
if not thanks for the advice.will consider all options

Better that you converse privately with your lawyer, but then I read from the other forum that you've spent $15,000 already,
which is rather strange, since I don't read much legal correspondences between you and the other party(ies).

Just like pre-nup is not enforceable in Singapore, any gag order, as a consequence to any settlement, is not enforceable, unless
it's ruled by a court.

Many employers, including lawyers, think writing a gag order into their agreements, will snuff out any communications or breach
of confidentiality, but it's not so simple.

I'm not a lawyer, btw. So, better check with your lawyer, but I'm pretty sure a gag order is not enforceable in Singapore, unless
a court determines.

Don't take my word as gospel truth, because the laws in Singapore are like wet clay, and not all lawyers know their laws, unfortunately.

 

[wendychan]

Better that you converse privately with your lawyer, but then I read from the other forum that you've spent $15,000 already,
which is rather strange, since I don't read much legal correspondences between you and the other party(ies).

Just like pre-nup is not enforceable in Singapore, any gag order, as a consequence to any settlement, is not enforceable, unless
it's ruled by a court.

Many employers, including lawyers, think writing a gag order into their agreements, will snuff out any communications or breach
of confidentiality, but it's not so simple.

I'm not a lawyer, btw. So, better check with your lawyer, but I'm pretty sure a gag order is not enforceable in Singapore, unless
a court determines.

Don't take my word as gospel truth, because the laws in Singapore are like wet clay, and not all lawyers know their laws, unfortunately.

had to get a lawyer already from last year about july or so. i haven't put up any of the letter exchanges here, because i think sure kenna sued.
but will check on what you've just said
btw, the lawyer im currently using is the 2nd one. the first one turned out to be totally useless and i changed to the 2nd one last year as well

 

[chorut]

had to get a lawyer already from last year about july or so. i haven't put up any of the letter exchanges here, because i think sure kenna sued.
but will check on what you've just said
btw, the lawyer im currently using is the 2nd one. the first one turned out to be totally useless and i changed to the 2nd one last year as well

Maybe a word of caution is useful here. All lawyers from both parties talk to each other privately, so always keep your true intention to yourself and instruct the lawyer what you want and not allow your lawyer to lead you by the nose. You need to have some basic knowledge of the law, or mostly, it's what you want and how aggressive you want it done your way. The lawyer will follow your instructions. Make sure he/she does, or else don't pay.

Lawyers nowadays have not much business, trust me. Keep your cost low and they'll still take your job, but don't let the lawyer suggests this and that and create a flood of correspondences and photocopies. A lawyer in Singapore charges by time and materials, if you get my drift.

Good luck.

 

[batman1]

U received a sum of money in consideration of forfeiture or loss of your right to stay in the house.Why are they breaching the agreement ? They have no right to demand back the money which is for u to look for alternative accommodation.Your lawyer should be able to give a robust reply to them.U should fight for your rights or else u got no home to sleep.

 

[moolightaffairs]

wow!!! sammyboy like 梁山泊 in 水浒传！！！ all samsters here like 梁山好汉！！！ will help the weak and those kena bullied.

 

[scroobal]

Hey Sis

Make an appointment with Legal Aid Bureau. There is a means and merit tests to fulfill. You might qualify. Even though you born out of wedlock yo do have rights. My sense is that you may npot be able to afford the right lawyer. Legal aid bureau has ample experience in handling family matters.

Suggest you do not make claims here as it might come back to bite you. Saying FMH is your sis in law is a fact so that is fine but making claims that they are influencing your mum might land you in trouble.

You can however keep people appraised of your situation as this thing progresses so that there are eyes that know if you are not treated well. Chorut knows what he is talking about and he has a long history in this forum and I see the other helpful souls are contributing.

You are obviously stressed. Try and cool down. That is only way that it will serve you better.

 

[wendychan]

U received a sum of money in consideration of forfeiture or loss of your right to stay in the house.Why are they breaching the agreement ? They have no right to demand back the money which is for u to look for alternative accommodation.Your lawyer should be able to give a robust reply to them.U should fight for your rights or else u got no home to sleep.

i was stupid. they demanded that i sign an agreement before i got the money
as previously mentioned, the agreement was signed about 5pm, 30 sept 2011.the very day and night i had to move out of the family home, or they will start the eviction process

you can say that i should not have signed.. why be greedy to take the money?

i signed because i was down about $50000 on the deposit of a flat, if i didn't get the additional money to complete the purchase, i would have lost the $50000 and still be homeless

so my hands were "very tied"

they added some clause to say cannot talk about the details of the deals above, and to say cannot discuss details of my step moms family.

they already tried to sue me in dec last year, coz i spoke to xxxx, whose family are family friends, re my plight. I did NOT mention details.
just said i had been kicked out of the family home and the family and it was for sale for 26 million (check property guru). my words got twisted when it got back to them.

their lawyer sent letter say want to sue for breach of the signed agreement. my lawyer sent a letter explaining my version of what happened.
they replied saying they don't believe me, (of course lah, only they the rich can tell the truth, a poor b a s t a r d like me always tell lies, typical)
but they will be magnanimous and not sue this time....

now they want to FORBID me from talking verbally to people and to stop sending emails and to stop posting online.
i am to be forbidden basically from talking for life, voice and electronically, about my step mothers family. ANYTHING.....
ESPECIALLY CAN NOT TELL PEOPLE THAT FOO MEE HAR IS MY SIS IN LAW


i cant live like that

 

[wendychan]

U received a sum of money in consideration of forfeiture or loss of your right to stay in the house.Why are they breaching the agreement ? They have no right to demand back the money which is for u to look for alternative accommodation.Your lawyer should be able to give a robust reply to them.U should fight for your rights or else u got no home to sleep.

so because i live with this threat of them constantly being able to sue me for the return of the money.... i prefer to sell up and return what i can..
because after my mother dies, they can still sue... better to die before my step mom
how to live like that?
cannot talk about my problems, because it involves my step mom family, and always expect the day when the "we are suing you" letter comes...

i have no problems sleeping in my van
and better i die before my step mom then

i really believe ultimately, they want my death, 40 years of repressed anger at my father for bringing his b a s t a r d s home

 

[jiakhongleow]

Dear Wendy,

i was stupid. they demanded that i sign an agreement before i got the money
as previously mentioned, the agreement was signed about 5pm, 30 sept 2011.the very day and night i had to move out of the family home, or they will start the eviction process


you can say that i should not have signed.. why be greedy to take the money?

i signed because i was down about $50000 on the deposit of a flat, if i didn't get the additional money to complete the purchase, i would have lost the $50000 and still be homeless

so my hands were "very tied"

they added some clause to say cannot talk about the details of the deals above, and to say cannot discuss details of my step moms family.

they already tried to sue me in dec last year, coz i spoke to russsel wong, whose family are family friends, re my plight. I did NOT mention details.
just said i had been kicked out of the family home and the family and it was for sale for 26 million (check property guru). my words got twisted when it got back to them.

Don't bring up names just up XX or nick name. These people may read this forum and if they know they are this Mr. XX you are referring they may help you if they understand your situation more clearly. You can expose the lawyer company and their lawyer name. This lawyer company is their trade name and treat them as a company. Dodgy lawyer must be exposed. Whacked them for unprofessinoal misconduct if they fraudulently misrepresent their clients. Don't be afraid of lawyers. Their job is to intimidate, harass and threaten you on behalf of their client.

You go to a tour the tour company letters are always a pleasant one, make you feel nice and welcome. Don't expect lawyer letter to be the same but full of intimidations, harassment and threats. Write back to them and warn them (their clients) saying you will seek damage, hurt and possible police report if their allegations against you are not true.

their lawyer sent letter say want to sue for breach of the signed agreement. my lawyer sent a letter explaining my version of what happened.
they replied saying they don't believe me, (of course lah, only they the rich can tell the truth, a poor b a s t a r d like me always tell lies, typical)
but they will be magnanimous and not sue this time....

Next time ignore their letter or take the other step if you wish. Tell them you will see them in court instead. Intimidate them back. Play the same game. Instruct your lawyer to write and specify your demands. Give them the taste of their own medicine.

now they want to FORBID me from talking verbally to people and to stop sending emails and to stop posting online.

Only court order (restrain order in this case) is enforcable. If it is a court gag order then it become enforcable and if you breached the order it will be referred to police case and you go to jail.

Other than an civil agreement has no merit and in fact if it goes to court, the lawyer might get himself into trouble too for misleading his clients and breached his code of practice and conduct as a license lawyer. Remember, lawyer is a license holder, no license no job. Lawyer has a frame work to work on and if he breached the code of practice and conduct of a lawyer and mislead this client then you can report him to the AG office and he will face punishment and licence revoked, if any.

Get to know the frame work of a lawyer duty of care and the OB markers they have. You will be surpirsed they back off if you can pin point their unprofessional misconduct. We are educated well and speak and write English and can read law too. But not like our forefathers who have to rely on Ah Neh lawyers (snakes) in court cases. Lawyers are dodgy bastards and once you are in their turf they will suck your money dry. But if you know their duty of care to their clients and OB markers you can get them too if their breached their professional misconduct and lose their license. Time to give these lawyers a taste of their own medicines and shamed them if they behaved like a crook. This is new media and they better be nice to us too and not to cause duress to us.

Look! court order is what you are interested from your adversary, if it was lawyer letter throw it away or write back to intimidate them the way they did to you. You will be surpirsed their clients will back off.

i am to be forbidden basically from talking for life, voice and electronically, about my step mothers family. ANYTHING.....
ESPECIALLY CAN NOT TELL PEOPLE THAT FOO MEE HAR IS MY SIS IN LAW

If you still love your step mother don't tell us about her. She maybe realize someone was intstigating her to cause hurt and duress to you using her as a weapon to destroy you. Stay clam. Go see a doctor and get medical certificate, if any, which may help you in your case. People under duress may have unkown high blood pressure problem which cause them to behave and think irrationally if they are under pressure. You can use this medical certificate to defend your case that you have sign the agreement unkowningly that you are a high blood or low blood victim.


i cant live like that

 

[wendychan]

i am now waiting for high court injunction to forbid me from talking..

if i don't comply i am well aware and prepared to go to jail

 

[jiakhongleow]

fight the injunction. if they win, apply for appeal. let the case drag. just don't cave in.

figth them on another ground, take them to court for another case of their allegations and etc. Take your mother to court as a last resort. If you still love her take her to court to prove your love. Dig in, not caved in. That may break the camel's back, if any.

Siblings fight over parents money is cruel, worst than murder. Take one by one to court and see who breakdowns. Loser pays court costs. Especially if it was the in-laws instigating and trying to mess up the family they must be exposed and shamed.

i am now waiting for high court injunction to forbid me from talking.

if i don't comply i am well aware and prepared to go to jail.

If there is an injunction, don't over react and do silly things. Don't breach the order as it is stupid to go to jail for do that. You can still use a lawyer to write to your mother or scold any one of them if you wish to, but dont' use any other carriers but only through the lawyer. Get any lawyers to write for you for a fee and they will be glad to do so. You can afford $80 per lawyer letlter, correct?

Use another nick to bypass the order, if any. Just don't mention real names. People will like to hear your side of the story and may help you, if necessary.

FMH is an MP. that is her job as an elected MP, so leave that part out and nothing to do with PAP as a whole. keep the issue separate.

 

[wendychan]

thanks.........................................................

 

[Kohliantye]

apparently im not even allowed to tell people that MP foo mee haha is married to my half brother... go firgure,
what they scared of?

me, since im planning to return the money and have already returned some, so im not bluffing, i have nothing more to lose.

make me a bankrupt,
go to jail since i cant pay up the full amount>>>

no problem

Dear Wendychan,

The Courts do NOT grant INJUNCTIONS that easily. It has to go through the points raised and rebutted in the affidavits.

You need not worry at all.

This is a CIVIL suit.

NO ONE HAS THE POWER TO SEND YOU TO JAIL.

Our Judges are Fair.

You will get JUSTICE.