Are we obsessed with Goh Meng Seng?

[Ramseth]

You and LTK talked to me???? And in "no uncertain terms" at that???

Did that "talking" take place whilst you were having a wet dream? Or was it carried out while you were in a state of hallucinatory psychosis?

That took place in a certain restaurant stairway on a certain occasion that many attended. I won't blame you for not remembering. Anyway, my point is you've cooled down since but you're still entitled to your dissenting views against WP. Sue you for what? I think you, like Perspective, misunderstood me earlier.

 

[Perspective]

As long as you are clear that you say anything in your own accord and not speak for me that I would agree with you, I am fine. Misunderstand is a misnomer, I don't need spokesperson. I am not a human political party.

 

[PTADER]

That took place in a certain restaurant stairway on a certain occasion that many attended. I won't blame you for not remembering. Anyway, my point is you've cooled down since but you're still entitled to your dissenting views against WP. Sue you for what? I think you, like Perspective, misunderstood me earlier.

Cut out the bullshit. This is what you stated.

PTader has cooled down since me and LTK talked to him in no uncertain terms.

Your point was to seize credit for the fact that I have "cooled down" and that I have "cooled down" because you and LTK have talked to me in "no uncertain terms". That means you and LTK have made clear to me of the repercussions that will come flying my way if I had persisted. Because of this fear induced in me by you two big, bad mafia chiefs especially by the one with a pony tail, gleaming muscles and fresh dog's meat between his teeth, I had to retreat with my tail between my legs and was successfully intimidated into silence after that "talk" in "a certain restaurant stairway".

That's utter and unadulterated rubbish. It is a figment of your imagination, your humongous ego and your acute vanity.

The simple reason why I have "cooled down" is simply people do move on in their lives, a concept that I hope, is not too difficult for you to understand.

I'll let you off this time. This is since it is obvious that you are retreating from your initial claims about the point you made.

The next time you want to thump your chest, brag and spout rubbish on my account, think very,very carefully.

 

[Bigfuck]

That took place in a certain restaurant stairway on a certain occasion that many attended. I won't blame you for not remembering. Anyway, my point is you've cooled down since but you're still entitled to your dissenting views against WP. Sue you for what? I think you, like Perspective, misunderstood me earlier.

Did you after telling PTrader hypnotize him so that he would forget he met both of you?

 

[TwitSeng]

why open such threads to let him boost his ego?

 

[Kinana]

why open such threads to let him boost his ego?

Because they can't stand his guts. These opposition supporters types just can't stand others who expose weaknesses about the opposition.
What GMS did is actually correct. He pointed out flaws in WP and if corrected can only improve the opposition in Singapore.
I think we need to be fair. WP does lack integrity and have mismanagement issues. LTK is just not up to the task with his old style management philiospphy. A new generation needs to rise up. Perhaps its time for him to retire after this term.

 

[deepblue0911]

Because they can't stand his guts. These opposition supporters types just can't stand others who expose weaknesses about the opposition.
What GMS did is actually correct. He pointed out flaws in WP and if corrected can only improve the opposition in Singapore.
I think we need to be fair. WP does lack integrity and have mismanagement issues. LTK is just not up to the task with his old style management philiospphy. A new generation needs to rise up. Perhaps its time for him to retire after this term.

I can't speak for others obviously. But it's not his guts that I can't stand, it's his stupidity.

 

[zhihau]

He pointed out flaws in WP and if corrected can only improve the opposition in Singapore.

on 20/20, there are certainly room for improvements. even where it's not pointed out by GMS, hopefully our Teo Chew Ah Hiah already detected them.

much as new blood should rise up, this me agree; me still burdened with old school thoughts: 姜还是老的辣

 

[Kinana]

He is not stupid, read carefully and think. What he said was absolutely correct.
I find WP to be a real disapointment. They get so many seats in parliament and waste it all. So far, they added nothing to the debate on issues and actually wasted everybody's time.
LTK management style and leadership ability just won't cut it. They need to renew themselves.

 

[deepblue0911]

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He is not stupid, read carefully and think. What he said was absolutely correct.
I find WP to be a real disapointment. They get so many seats in parliament and waste it all. So far, they added nothing to the debate on issues and actually wasted everybody's time.
LTK management style and leadership ability just won't cut it. They need to renew themselves.

You don't find GMS stupid? I see. Tempted to say something just based on this remark if yours. But I promised my dog to be nice today, so I shall not.

 

[Kinana]

On the contrary, I find LTK stupid instead. He claimed not to know anything about Yaw's ways even after working closely with him for 11 years. How stupid can one get? Come on, do you really believe in LTK?

 

[Ramseth]

LTK management style and leadership ability just won't cut it. They need to renew themselves.

On the contrary, I find LTK stupid instead. He claimed not to know anything about Yaw's ways even after working closely with him for 11 years. How stupid can one get? Come on, do you really believe in LTK?

What's wrong with his management style? Why should he know anything about others' private affairs? He worked with YSL for 11 years, not lived with him.

 

[brocoli]

What's wrong with his management style? Why should he know anything about others' private affairs? He worked with YSL for 11 years, not lived with him.

even locke acknowledge that LTK management style is passe.... the party need to be more professional if they wan to attract better qualified candidates ....

please dun be so defensive like the PAP

He is not stupid, read carefully and think. What he said was absolutely correct.
I find WP to be a real disapointment. They get so many seats in parliament and waste it all. So far, they added nothing to the debate on issues and actually wasted everybody's time.
LTK management style and leadership ability just won't cut it. They need to renew themselves.

GMS is stupid, the way he post is so cocky and annoying that he defeat his own points...... he is the best camouflage for WP failings because he rant so much that he distract the attention from those flaws to his own flaws which is even more glaring while at the same time he say his purpose is to point out WP flaws ....

he is a self defeating cockster

 

[deepblue0911]

On the contrary, I find LTK stupid instead. He claimed not to know anything about Yaw's ways even after working closely with him for 11 years. How stupid can one get? Come on, do you really believe in LTK?

I don't know if LTK is stupid. Too few data points to assess him. GMS confirmed stupid from the various posts he made here, and his comments in MSM. Not only I think GMS is stupid, he's also delusional.

 

[Kinana]

Yaw sleeping with WP cadres and Low doesn't know? Stupid leader or liar. It can only be one.

 

[deepblue0911]

Yaw sleeping with WP cadres and Low doesn't know? Stupid leader or liar. It can only be one.

If your conclusion that LTK is stupid is founded on this reason alone, you're stupid.

My apology if I'm too blunt.

 

[Kinana]

He cannot be not stupid if he doesn't know what is happening in his small party can he?
How smart can you be?

 

[deepblue0911]

He cannot be not stupid if he doesn't know what is happening in his small party can he?
How smart can you be?

Knowing something = not stupid? I think you need more than knowledge to be clever. Such as understanding what you know, the context, how things influence one another, the consequences of our actions (intended vs unintended), etc. And I'm not exhaustive here. Merely knowing, is errr, just knowing. Far from not stupid.

Sorry, but you're stupid.

 

[Kinana]

How can Low not be stupid when he doesn't know that Yaw is sleeping around within the party? You must be really stupid to believe him.

 

[Ramseth]

He cannot be not stupid if he doesn't know what is happening in his small party can he?

Yeah right, WP is actually a very small party with about 20 members. And all members must log and report their whereabouts 24/7 and submit to the SG. Even more draconic, SG conducts regular spotchecks and plant bugs in their cars and homes. I have no idea how they came up with 10 full busloads of members for election. Something must be wrong somewhere. Something doesn't tally somewhere.

I'm not sarcastically boasting that WP is big, as least nowhere near the size of PAP. However, it's quite a sizeable organization to run. That's the first point. The second point is, members are entitled private lives, whether morally right or wrong, without being under surveillance.