Anonymity in Cyberspace

[krafty]

And you! How can you be wrong,you have like 20 years of experience in dun know what field!
Where me only Cisco certified and few years in IT, and now a lowly surviving taxi driver.

Btw, damn dulan old guard like you telling pple for instance "I have 20 years experience and I am an old guard!"

Also, your backdoor, your scanning of thousands of web addresses and encrypted anon theories are utterly nonsense! I dare to say...

If the ISP successfully blocked those traffic that attempts to watch that banned Clip, then they have information of these groups.

If you can access via another backdoor, how does the ISP knows? If for this particular instance, I say no way. Not unless they scanned through the thousand of anon server for the web addresses.

To be 99.99% sure... Like I first suggested, use a anon server that provides encryption.

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

And if they want to check...err...I mean if they want to block 1000 users from accessing youtube via anon proxy,they can do it by

1. blocking access to anon proxies known

This one I know, and it's not part of my question. I'm not asking if ISP can block; I have already bypassed it, so why would I be concerned about being blocked ?

2. comparing and blocking your data stream from their server end(Data Analyser). Your data stream header contains info where your data is coming from.
and so long...:oIo:

"their" server as in ISP server ? And data stream header meaning data coming from Youtube ?

So with a Data Analyser installed in ISP server, whatever that is coming from the blocked website will be made known to the ISP ? Is that what you're saying ? And from there, they can trace who accessed the blocked website and via which anon surfer, am I right ?

 

[wuqi256]

If for some reason a government decides to block a particular website, say Youtube.

Now, I know it's possible to use a host of other proxy websites to access Youtube. You just need to key in the URL of Youtube in that proxy website, and you're immediately brought to Youtube.

The proxy websites are supposed to provide you with anonymity when you surf. So the chain goes like this:

My computer --> ISP proxy server --> surf anonymous proxy server -->Youtube.

So far so good.

Now, my condo has had wireless internet service installed by some commercial company, which is not the main ISP. I buy a coupon every month which gives me an user id and password.

I have seen the technicians from the company using laptops to check the server and routers whenever there is a network problem. Apparently, they know which website I'm at just by looking at their laptop, whereby my user id is identified.

Based on the above, does anyone know that I'm at Youtube (other than the surf anonymous proxy server) ?

Queen, the best is to use an internet cafe like what some folks suggest or somewhere free and public like some cafes which provide WIFI services do. Alternatively, borrow from a neighbour's internet link and use a USD wifi card that is "disposable".

The best thing is not to do anything illegal like porn, etc.

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

Queen, the best is to use an internet cafe like what some folks suggest or somewhere free and public like some cafes which provide WIFI services do. Alternatively, borrow from a neighbour's internet link and use a USD wifi card that is "disposable".

The best thing is not to do anything illegal like porn, etc.

Keep to the technical stuff, please.

This thread is never about what is the safest way to surf porn or defame someone in the Internet without getting caught, okay ?

I hope that clarifies. Keep to the technical stuff.

 

[Glaringly]

Can't help it, since you write my point off twice and some more say it's all nonsense So, have to pull out my butt of experience and sits on you.

And you! How can you be wrong,you have like 20 years of experience in dun know what field!
Where me only Cisco certified and few years in IT, and now a lowly surviving taxi driver.

Btw, damn dulan old guard like you telling pple for instance "I have 20 years experience and I am an old guard!"

Also, your backdoor, your scanning of thousands of web addresses and encrypted anon theories are utterly nonsense! I dare to say...

 

[Glaringly]

To be honest, I have never uses anon server. So it all depends on how these servers implements the send and forward text that you type. Where did you type the name of the banned clip, or do you just type in a brief phrase in searching?

But, definately, every single character, in theory that is send out from you computer is traceable.

Ah...now I know somebody understands what I'm saying.

At best the ISP knows I have accessed an anon surfer site, but where I surf from there the ISP wouldn't know, right ? And isn't that the purpose of anon surfer ?

In between my computer and the ISP, I believe the company that offers the wireless service in my condo will know.

 

[wuqi256]

Ok Queen, so heres the deal.

You have to assume they will (eventually) know.

So you have a physical (MAC) address on your laptop that is mapped to a private IP(depending on how you set up but not much difference anyways in terms of tracking) which in turn is mapped to a Public IP from your ISP. You said you are buying a card but do you need any form of identification to purchase?

You may have anonymous servers who basically allows you to surf from their IP but folks who are keen to track you or track the users of the servers just need to match the IP you are using, as in track at source and from the server, go backwards to find you. Your source IP address assigned will never lie even though you go through proxies to hide behind more proxies or servers or even mask your IP.

A packet sniffer left at the right point in time can still spoil your day especially if you are using wireless.

Its just a cloud that can be penetrated and the veil of secrecy is nothing but a veil. It just takes more time every layer you add.

When you said the guys can tell which sites you are surfing, its could be that their main gateway server/proxy saying which sites you are going through, you need to be sure of the gateway you are using and whether if you are using multiple gateways so that the traffic travel through the correct path.

If they are targetting certain servers, they can also assign certain sniffing software (virus) at the server they are targetting to keep track. Of course, if you are in another country, it will be slightly more difficult to do a trace on you.

http://netsecurity.about.com/cs/hackertools/a/aa121403.htm

 

[krafty]

yala...yala... Old Guard!

Can't help it, since you write my point off twice and some more say it's all nonsense So, have to pull out my butt of experience and sits on you.