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Ancient Chinese Believed in ShangDi!

cowbehcowbu

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THE ANCIENT CHINESE BELIEVE IN HEAVENLY FORCES NOT SHANGDI.....A SUPREME HEAVENLY FORCES THAT SOMETIMES MAKE HIS WRATH FELT WHEN THE EMPEROR DID THE WRONG THING
IN BUDDHISM, SHANGDI..REFER TO THE RULER OF ONE OF THE MANY HEAVENS..THE ONE NEAREST TO THE HUMAN DIMENSION.............POWERFUL WHEN COMPARED TO HUMAN,,BUT HUMBLE WHEN COMPARE WITH THE MANY MORE HIGHER HEAVENS AND THE OTHER MILLION OF bUDDHA LANDS...
 

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The so called Elites believe in themselves to be elites because they love corruption and life of convenience ! And enslaved peasants can be taxed and manipulated !

Sp heaven on earth !
 

commoner

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in the buddhist view, jesus was a wise man and still in the reincarnation cycle, a level higher than man when he walked the earth,,,,,

in cao dai-ism jesus is just like among other gods like kwan yim, and lower than Victor Hugo,,,

in koran, a prophet but less important than Muhammad,,,,,

for jews,,, oooooops, he is not the messiah that xtians argued and quoted from all over to justify,,,,,,
 

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There is a higher power out there, no matter what beliefs one hold...

Just like many will believe in the power of good, they often forget about the power of the other side which is evil... evil always have a good way of blending in the surrounding, making itself inconspicious... but it is there waiting in the shadows to pounce on any unwary human beings in various forms of misfortune or misdeeds...

My thoughts...

Peace!

:biggrin: :biggrin:
 

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Some how this seems like a Deja Vu, someone from the Christian community has also mentioned this to me before. The only difference at that time was the name which known as "Shang Chang".

While ShangDi is used in both Chinese and Christian's context, one would eaedc easily realize that they are referring to different entity. The "ShangDi" from Ancient China did refer to the god governing the Heaven. Its origin and developmental process is however very different from the Genesis of Christianity.

Shang Di in China can be equate to Yu Huang Da Di, which is the emperor in Heaven. He governs gods and Deities just like the Chinese Emperor governing the officials.

The major difference between the Shang Di in Chinese context is the lack of original Sin. While the working of Christianity is based upon man sinned against God and have ever since trying to obtain redemption. The Chinese have mentioned of no such event. At the same time, the workings of both Shang Di's are different. The Shang Di (base on Wikipedia.org) from Chinese culture rewards the good doers and punishs bad. Shang Di from Christianity punishes anyone who do not believe Him, regardless good or bad doers.

Are the Shang Di from Chinese culture the same as Shang Di from Christianity? Absolutely not. Neither can it be a coincidence that both having the same name. Christianity entered China only in recent history, it is most likely that they adopted "Shang Di" as the name of their God to create leverage over the position of Christianity.

It is therefore an error to assume that Ancient Chinese worship the same Shang Di as the one in Christianity.
 

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when the angmo wants to evangelise the chinese, they use the words that exists in the chinese language to suit their purpose, and now they claim they worship the same god,,,, 神 in chinese language simple means god, which is different from xtian God,

when they tried to evangelise to the middle east, they adapted the word ALLAH, so they claimed the same ALLAH,,,,

very cunning hor,
 
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If I give my son the name "ShangDi", will it make me the father of Xtain God? :biggrin:
 

denzuko1

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when the angmo wants to evangelise the chinese, they use the words that exists in the chinese language to suit their purpose, and now they claim they worship the same god,,,, 神 in chinese language simple means god, which is different from xtian God,

when they tried to evangelise to the middle east, they adapted the word ALLAH, so they claimed the same ALLAH,,,,

very cunning hor,

Precisely! The Xtians at that time want to make a grand entrance to the Chinese community, Shang Di makes it look much bigger than life.
 

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The so called Elites believe in themselves to be elites because they love corruption and life of convenience ! And enslaved peasants can be taxed and manipulated !

Sp heaven on earth !

SINgapore is heaven on earth for all the Ah neh's, the pinoys, the banglas....:biggrin:
 

mercbenz

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How nice, the west idolized Chinese deities also, so the Christians actually praying to Yu Huang Da Di right?
 

SIFU

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The major difference between the Shang Di in Chinese context is the lack of original Sin. While the working of Christianity is based upon man sinned against God and have ever since trying to obtain redemption. The Chinese have mentioned of no such event. At the same time, the workings of both Shang Di's are different. The Shang Di (base on Wikipedia.org) from Chinese culture rewards the good doers and punishs bad. Shang Di from Christianity punishes anyone who do not believe Him, regardless good or bad doers.

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the christian shang di is an asshole.. cannot even differentiate between good and bad.:cool:
 

annexa

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Ancient Ang Mos believe in Heaven and Earth. They pre-date Christianity and are original Christians. Christians must now become Taoist who are the original Heaven and Earth worshippers.

Congratulations Mr Kong Hee Fatt Choy!
 

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Many of the gods are really images of various generals (关公)officials(陶朱公),citizens are encouraged to worship the various virtues(loyalty , generousity,filial piety) . if you notice the 玉皇大帝, the dressing is very much like the chinese emperors. The emperors wants the peasants to believe that they were ordained by the heavens, and there are the 天子(sons of heaven)
 

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44mm

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I am always very happy when some people believe in GOD or Jesus. Normally i will recommend them to watch a movie. Just about 2hrs plus of your time.

For those who doesnt believe also must watch cos its a very detailed movie. Which in Singapore you can hardly find any. Only in the internet can you get it.

http://www.Zeitgeistmovie.com

Go to " The movie "

There is 2 shows but i recommend you see the movie 1st and after that watch "Zeitgeist:ADDENDUM"

You will be enlightened.
 
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